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mattdawson

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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2017, 09:46:01 AM »
A 4th seamer comes in for me. Going off the squad I'd assume that would be Ball, hes always seemed next in line in the bowling ranks.

Personally I'd prefer Plunkett, but I think he's the nearly man.

Hows Finn been this summer? He ripped through Lancs the other week. His extra height could cause problems in Aus.

Got to be a bowler for me though. "Batters save a match, but bowlers win you one" was drilled into our squad by a coach for 2 years.
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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2017, 11:19:49 AM »
Can't see Plunkett going straight in. There are a couple of seamers in the squad ahead of him. I haven't seen Overton,but have heard good things,and don't rate Ball!
I'll start with a simple formula:

Cook +Stoneman+Vince= 30/2

My side:

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Ballance
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Overton
Broad
Anderson

Test match cricket is in danger, and desperately needs players like Stokes. But I can't comment further as this thread isn't about Stokes!
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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2017, 11:45:30 AM »
I'm worried about the clamour for Ben Foakes. I like him, but  have seen this on here before. It usually sees the subject of attention becoming a hate figure within a very short space of time.
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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2017, 12:58:29 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on September 29, 2017, 11:45:30 AM
I'm worried about the clamour for Ben Foakes. I like him, but  have seen this on here before. It usually sees the subject of attention becoming a hate figure within a very short space of time.

Averaging over 40 for such a long time speaks for itself. If he doesnt suit he doesnt suit. The rest of the hatred had a couple of decent seasons thats it.
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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2017, 02:11:23 PM »
Bairstow will be reluctant to give up the gloves imo. Harder to stay in the team as a specialist batsman, being the keeper gives him a bit of extra leeway and relieves a lot of the pressure when the inevitable dip in form comes.
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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2017, 02:48:40 PM »
Plukett  should come in next best after Stokes  at what they do ( bowl seam and bat).
Suspect the selectors onlly  see him  now as an ODi  man.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2017, 02:55:05 PM by Seniorplayer »
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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2017, 04:12:33 PM »
Quote from: joeljonno on September 29, 2017, 08:14:45 AM
Cook
Stoneman
Ballance
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Ball

Err, actually. Maybe not going to have Ball in. Replace with Overton I think after today.
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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2017, 04:26:04 PM »
If you knew there was no Stokes surely you would pick a different squad?
He is that much of an influence & creator of balance to the Match day XI
ECB have some serious thinking to do
Crane selection suddeny becomes a self indulgent folly
And lack of reliable batsman becomes chronic issue
23-3 becomes even scarier proposition
I wasn’t massively impressed with Ball/Ballance/Vince/Crane that’s just become even worse.

Cook
Stoneman
Bairstow
Root
Ballance
Ali
Foakes
Woakes
Overton
Broad
Anderson


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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2017, 11:18:44 AM »
The team I would take (Yes I know Hales is suspended, but this is without Stokes)

Cook
Hales
Vince
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Plunkett
Broad
Anderson

For me Mason Crane is a great prospect but doesn't have the experience yet.
Rashid would come in maybe at the expense of Woakes or Plunkett.  Plunkett is the quicker bowler but I rate Woakes' batting more.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2017, 11:28:57 AM by OwzatOllie »
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Re: Whats the side without Stokes?
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2017, 03:14:18 PM »
Quote from: Woodyspin on September 29, 2017, 12:58:29 PM
Averaging over 40 for such a long time speaks for itself. If he doesnt suit he doesnt suit. The rest of the hatred had a couple of decent seasons thats it.

Two years ago he wasn't in Surrey's regular starting XI. He's only played two full seasons for anyone. Surrey got him because he was surplus to requirements ar Essex.

This season I've seen quite a lot of him and have at times been thinking he's not the wonder keeper I thought he might be. Certainly nowhere near as good as Read or Foster in their prime.

But, like I say, I do like him...

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