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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: thedon on January 20, 2018, 06:37:43 PM
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I've played in a few leagues and find the standards have varied. Just my thoughts, the Hertfordshire and Thames Valley leagues, I would say are very similar standards when comparing divisions. I would put the Chilterns league below these two. Would be interesting to hear other people's comments
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worst to best (obviously from my own experience and view point only)
Lower Northants divisions
Worcestershire top divs
Gloucestershire top divs
WEPL
Big gap
Northants prem/div one
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Worst to best - from my view and over a large number of years I would add and the standards do go up and down in the league's.
Durham Cricket League - Div 1
Four Counties League - Div 1
Thames Valley League - various Divs
North East Premier League - Prem
Home Counties Premier League - Div 1
Massive jump into the standard of the 2 ECB Premier Leagues with probably the HCPL being marginally stronger as a whole league
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I only have a small experience level to give my experience from but the Cambs / Hunts premier league (tucker 1)wasn’t as strong as I was expecting. Batting is good but the bowling wasn’t much a step up from Tucker 2/Hunt Div 1.
However neither of these are as strong as the equivalent Herts leagues.
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I've played in a few leagues and find the standards have varied. Just my thoughts, the Hertfordshire and Thames Valley leagues, I would say are very similar standards when comparing divisions. I would put the Chilterns league below these two. Would be interesting to hear other people's comments
The better sides in the Chilterns are roughly div 2/3 TVL standard but the rest are pretty average at best. Only a couple of decent clubs left in Chilterns now following a handful moving across to TVL for 2018.
Standard wise for me, best to worst:
Kent League (div 1)
TVL (divs 3 and 4)
Cherwell (div 4)
Chilterns (Prem)
Berkshire League (Prem)
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anybody play in the surrey county league?
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anybody play in the surrey county league?
It is the fullers league, in between the Surrey Championship and the village league.
Standard will be mixed some good players and some weaker ones.
I am sure it will be competitive.
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It is the fullers league, in between the Surrey Championship and the village league.
Standard will be mixed some good players and some weaker ones.
I am sure it will be competitive.
@Buzz - what's the name of that league that you play twice a year in and score 388* each time - it's the surrey Jazzhat Village Duffers division 4 or something isn't it? :D
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Hahahahaha
Surrey jazz hat league is about right.
I play for the just relegated Headley Old Freemans in the Surrey Downs league when I get let out.
It is mixed in quality. There are some players who should be playing a higher standard of cricket but can't be bothered to and some players I would rather just didn't bother!
Not quite the same as when I played in Div one of the Surrey Championship (and averaged about 8 )
I also play some old man's cricket for the XL club, which I recommend if you are over 35.
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I'm over 35 - and I'm also an XL!
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It is the fullers league, in between the Surrey Championship and the village league.
Standard will be mixed some good players and some weaker ones.
I am sure it will be competitive.
Our Twos and Threes play in the Fullers, as does @FattusCattus.
Our Threes are a mix of colts, 'veterans' and assorted sundry folk, so the standard is pretty low. We're a weak Threes side, to be fair. There are sides in the division that are more competent!
Our Twos are of a better standard. Players who know what they're doing. (Most of the time.) But centuries, genuine legspin and rapid pace at this level are rare birds.
Our Ones are in the Surrey Champ, and it's a pretty big step up. The top divisions (First and Premier) are of a very good standard. Feeders for Surrey & Middx.
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How very dare you!!!! Your 3's and I play in the vastly superior Surrey Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A much stronger standard than the Fullers, but still a little mixed.
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I've played 2s and 3s over seasons gone by at the bottom of the Surrey Championship and top of the Fullers and I'd say there's not such a jump in standard, there's a bit of an overlap between the worst sides in the championship and the best in the fullers. Where a big gulf seems to have appeared is between the best and worst sides in the bottom Surrey Championship 3rd XI regional divisions, I'm sure @FattusCattus will agree the worst sides are truly awful.
Hahahahaha
Surrey jazz hat league is about right.
I play for the just relegated Headley Old Freemans in the Surrey Downs league when I get let out.
It is mixed in quality. There are some players who should be playing a higher standard of cricket but can't be bothered to and some players I would rather just didn't bother!
Not quite the same as when I played in Div one of the Surrey Championship (and averaged about 8 )
I also play some old man's cricket for the XL club, which I recommend if you are over 35.
I played a few seasons in the Surrey Downs League and this is so true. Some lovely grounds, and a few players who were miles too good for that level of cricket, I was so jealous of their ability, but just wanted a nice easy Saturday afternoon.
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How very dare you!!!! Your 3's and I play in the vastly superior Surrey Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A much stronger standard than the Fullers, but still a little mixed.
Ah yes, they do indeed now play Surrey Champ Brucey.
But they'll always be Fuller's to me. :D
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Okay, tried to compile an accurate list, but you'll appreciate that there are 28 seasons of league cricket here (and I'm still only 40).
I've tried to add timeframes to these, because I think there have been ebbs and flows of standard over the years - a noticeable upshift around 2007-11 as the Ashes generation came of age, and a drop off in the last couple of seasons. The eagle eyed may notice that I have rated a D3 stronger than a D2 - I stand by that. I've included one in caps that I spent a year umpiring in as I think it is indicative, as well as one that I have spent enough time watching to judge, again in caps. Apologies if I offend anyone:
North Yorkshire South Durham League D1 (mid-90s)
YORKSHIRE PREM (1997)
Northern Premier D1 (1995-6)
York Senior League D1 (early 90s)
TVCL Division 1 (2000)
HOME COUNTIES PREMIER LEAGUE (since 2004)
TVCL Division 3 (2007-11)
TVCL Division 2 (2001-2 and 2005-6)
Nidderdale League (1998-9)
TVCL Division 3 (2003-4 and 12-13)
TVCL Division 4 and occasionally lower over the years...
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Never played in it, but a mate of mine is the English Pro of a North Yorkshire South Durham Premier Division Side. Watched a fair few games a it’s hell of a standard!
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Okay, tried to compile an accurate list, but you'll appreciate that there are 28 seasons of league cricket here (and I'm still only 40).
I've tried to add timeframes to these, because I think there have been ebbs and flows of standard over the years - a noticeable upshift around 2007-11 as the Ashes generation came of age, and a drop off in the last couple of seasons. The eagle eyed may notice that I have rated a D3 stronger than a D2 - I stand by that. I've included one in caps that I spent a year umpiring in as I think it is indicative, as well as one that I have spent enough time watching to judge, again in caps. Apologies if I offend anyone:
North Yorkshire South Durham League D1 (mid-90s)
YORKSHIRE PREM (1997)
Northern Premier D1 (1995-6)
York Senior League D1 (early 90s)
TVCL Division 1 (2000)
HOME COUNTIES PREMIER LEAGUE (since 2004)
TVCL Division 3 (2007-11)
TVCL Division 2 (2001-2 and 2005-6)
Nidderdale League (1998-9)
TVCL Division 3 (2003-4 and 12-13)
TVCL Division 4 and occasionally lower over the years...
Would say the NYSD was a very good standard from mid eighties, used to attract a very high standard of pro’s Lance Cairns etc.
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For me the strongest league I have played in is the East Anglian Prem league some really good players but a bit of a gap between top 6 sides with county & international players and the other sides that make up the top league.
The Kent leagues were all similar standard of sides ranging from championship through to feeder leagues.
Currently my side who changed from Suffolk leagues through to two counties league structure has walked the last two seasons but we had to start in bottom league due to switching leagues and league politics but I think this season although in Div 5 will be a stunner test although we play against clubs who's Sat league sides play in the EAPL and we hold our own so think we are about 2 seasons away from finding out the difference in ability etc.
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NYSD was awesome - stepping up at 17 from the York Senior was like going from league to first class. You had guys like Clayton Lambert, Phil Simmons, Philo Wallace, Ijaz Ahmed, Craig Matthews, Carlisle Best, Taufeeq Umar, Fanie De Villiers...plus lads from Durham, Northumberland and a few from Yorkshire.
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worst to best (obviously from my own experience and view point only)
Lower Northants divisions
Worcestershire top divs
Gloucestershire top divs
WEPL
Big gap
Northants prem/div one
As someone that plays in the Worcs lower divs, this is a huge blow to my self-esteem
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For me the strongest league I have played in is the East Anglian Prem league some really good players but a bit of a gap between top 6 sides with county & international players and the other sides that make up the top league.
The Kent leagues were all similar standard of sides ranging from championship through to feeder leagues.
Currently my side who changed from Suffolk leagues through to two counties league structure has walked the last two seasons but we had to start in bottom league due to switching leagues and league politics but I think this season although in Div 5 will be a stunner test although we play against clubs who's Sat league sides play in the EAPL and we hold our own so think we are about 2 seasons away from finding out the difference in ability etc.
think your find standard of the two counties league has gone down hill a fair bit even at the higher divisions
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Hahahahaha
Surrey jazz hat league is about right.
I play for the just relegated Headley Old Freemans in the Surrey Downs league when I get let out.
It is mixed in quality. There are some players who should be playing a higher standard of cricket but can't be bothered to and some players I would rather just didn't bother!
Not quite the same as when I played in Div one of the Surrey Championship (and averaged about 8 )
I also play some old man's cricket for the XL club, which I recommend if you are over 35.
@Buzz I love the XL club and I'm only 26 we play most of the private schools in Somerset lovely grounds much better facilities and standard depending on the school than Saturday league. I usually open the batting and find my self watching a new nut whizz past my nose for 6 overs until they get tired. Then get out as soon as the skipper realises i can't play any form of spin.
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I have never faced so much short pitched bowling as I received at Reeds this year!
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Was Reeds a home game?
My God that is a fantastic place and an amazing indoor school.
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Yes, but I doubt you will be allowed back...
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I also play some old man's cricket for the XL club, which I recommend if you are over 35.
Didn’t recognise the name XL club, but googled and found out it’s also called the Forty club. We had an annual fixture against them at my school, used to get some class players, albeit a bit slow sometimes (like me now).
@Buzz I guess you are in the Surrey and W.Sussex div, are the fixtures generally weekend or mid-week?
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Yes, but I doubt you will be allowed back...
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Look at that - left foot straight down the line of leg stump, bat held at a suitably defensive angle, eyes over the ball (ok, not the actual ball, but one in my head), relaxed grip.
That, my friends is textbook!
That, my friends is 'proppa batting'
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Didn’t recognise the name XL club, but googled and found out it’s also called the Forty club. We had an annual fixture against them at my school, used to get some class players, albeit a bit slow sometimes (like me now).
@Buzz I guess you are in the Surrey and W.Sussex div, are the fixtures generally weekend or mid-week?
Yes and midweek. And yes to the a bit slow too...
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@FattusCattus Such a beautiful bat
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I am, aren't I! :D