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General Cricket => World Cricket => England => Topic started by: iand123 on March 12, 2018, 12:36:52 PM
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https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/642891?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=ECB_cricket&utm_content=100000175109728+&utm_campaign=Other%20Campaigns (https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/642891?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=ECB_cricket&utm_content=100000175109728+&utm_campaign=Other%20Campaigns)
Just saw this on Twitter. Hopefully brings an end to the odd situation where people deeply involved in certain counties can influence selection
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Good call from the Fred Boycott twitter account regarding umpires being consulted on players selections.... after all they get to see all the action at close quarters and many were international if not County cricketers themselves.
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I like this, I was never a fan of having county coaches/directors of cricket being selectors. Their own agenda would too often get in the way.
Getting the opinion of umpires is an option, although I'd prefer asking the county captains their opinion as part of the process (this will most likely happen informally).
No idea who could come in for either the National Selector or Independent England Selector position - they don't necessarily have to know the county game inside out as the new scouts can handle that. Even though Newell and Fraser can apply I don't see them giving up their county roles for the jobs.
All of the candidates I can think of have media contracts that they probably won't give up (Michael Vaughan would be on my shortlist for example).
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System at the moment is very odd, can't see how a director of cricket at a county can be a selector.
Can't be truly neutral and must mostly see his own side play so doesn't get round the grounds enough. Also which coach is going to speak candidly to them.
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Delighted that the ECB is moving on from Whittaker. Ghastly.
I think Peter Moores should be involved in the selection process personally. Good with data and a good judge of a player.
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Delighted that the ECB is moving on from Whittaker. Ghastly.
I think Peter Moores should be involved in the selection process personally. Good with data and a good judge of a player.
Peter Moores seem to recall England were poor when he was in charge
But don't take my opinion ask KP what his thoughts are.
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Peter Moores is a good shout to be involved - cracking coach
don't think we are missing any players cause of the current system. just makes it appear more balanced
a good move but not ground breaking
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Moores didn't work as an England coach, but as a player picker he was excellent.
Swann, Sidebottom and others from his first stint, moeen from his second and others.
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On the BBC website it says they'll have a 12 "discipline-specific scouts". I think that's very good as it allows a wide ranging look at the whole county game and players.
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Giles staying Warwickshire and won't become national selector. It's also good that if Newell and Fraser become selectors again that they will have to step down from their counties. I didn't really like selectors being directors of cricket at county team's.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22989710/giles-stays-warwickshire-national-selector-approach (http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22989710/giles-stays-warwickshire-national-selector-approach)
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Peter Moores or James Taylor will get the gig.
It will be a real job for the boys option.
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Lehmann is out of work would be a great shout in my opinion...
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Jobs for the boys. Doesn’t matter who gets it, if they are already involved in the circuit they’ll be biased and heavily influenced
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ive seen on twitter ed smith has got the job? not sure if this is true or not and no announcement from the ECB as yet.
apparently mick newell is considering whether he wishes to give up his notts role or not before taking up the last selectors role
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The Times article is suggesting it will be a dream team of sacked hacks.
Smith (sacked from ESPN for plagiarism)
Selvey (Sacked from the guardian)
Pringle (sacked from the telegraph).
Grim reading.
On the upside Pringle and Selvey at least watch county cricket.
First order of the meeting, who got the best redundancy package?!
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The Times article is suggesting it will be a dream team of sacked hacks.
Smith (sacked from ESPN for plagiarism)
Selvey (Sacked from the guardian)
Pringle (sacked from the telegraph).
Grim reading.
On the upside Pringle and Selvey at least watch county cricket.
First order of the meeting, who got the best redundancy package?!
Buzz,
sorry if i have completely got this wrong but i thought the new selection panel was only 3 - including Baylis?
So what roles have both Pringle and Selvey got - wouldn't it be one or the other? plus Smith
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Times saying Pringle and Selvey were interviewed for Smith's role but haven't got it - panel is Flower, Bayliss and Smith. Underwhelming!
Edit: seems different papers are calling out Flower/Smith for the same job as chairman, interesting. Make of that what you will.
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@Buzz - why were Selvey and Pringle sacked?
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https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/mike-selvey-leaving-the-guardian/2016/07/20/ (https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/mike-selvey-leaving-the-guardian/2016/07/20/)
https://www.sportsjournalists.co.uk/other-bodies/cricket-writers/selveys-long-innings-comes-to-poignant-end-at-lords/ (https://www.sportsjournalists.co.uk/other-bodies/cricket-writers/selveys-long-innings-comes-to-poignant-end-at-lords/) Not quite a sacking according to this article, persuaded into retirement
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Buzz,
sorry if i have completely got this wrong but i thought the new selection panel was only 3 - including Baylis?
So what roles have both Pringle and Selvey got - wouldn't it be one or the other? plus Smith
Pretty sure I have it wrong.
Smith has the job and Selves and Pringle made "presentations"
Sacked/made redundant/pensioned off, sure they are different but the outcome is the same...!
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Confirmed Ed Smith is the new National Selector.
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Andrew Strauss, Director of England Cricket, said: "We’re excited about the changes we’ve made to our talent identification and selection structure. It’s about us getting better quality information, and making sure our decision-making is as clear and robust as possible.
"Ed stood out as an ideal candidate for the role for a number of reasons. There is real depth to his talent identification knowledge and he’s done a great amount of research into the subject.
"He has a rich and varied sum of experiences having played professional cricket for 12 years and having written extensively on cricket and other sports. As well as this he has a strong academic interest in high performance and excellent knowledge of the international game.
"Ed will come to this role with fresh ideas and his input will help us implement a structure that we hope can become world-leading, not just in cricket but in sport generally."
"Written extensively...." well someone has, just not always Ed!
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James Taylor, Marcus Trescothick, Glen Chappell, Chris Read, Steve Rhodes, Richard Dawson all named as ‘scouts’
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All excellent choices to be honest.
Two batsmen, two bowlers and two keepers. Across a spread of the country.