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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: Mfarank on July 09, 2018, 11:03:47 AM

Title: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Mfarank on July 09, 2018, 11:03:47 AM
The title is self explanatory. I was really impressed by how @sarg does toe guards on the bats he reviews/prepares. And I'd like to know how he does it. It'd be mighty appreciated if he did a small video on his yt channel explaining the process and the materials used. Looks to be a much more sustainable and better looking option than having to stick the toe guard back on every couple of weeks. Cheers!

Ps. I also loved his views on different types of scuff sheets. Really good information.
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: sarg on July 09, 2018, 11:09:30 AM
Errr No.

There is no way i will disclose my secret two layers of linseed oil followed by one layer of a clear oil based varnish before finishing with a single later of shoe goo (waiting for each coat to dry). Never.

Damn. I had it made until I wrote all that down. @Mfarank
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: delazy on July 09, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
he does an incredibly neat job thats for sure!

(https://image.ibb.co/k3zSRo/36684072_1870731656564299_573083885806551040_n.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://image.ibb.co/fAYAe8/36717308_1870731699897628_8154680776567291904_n.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://image.ibb.co/ffTbK8/36674184_1870731669897631_484347709692575744_n.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: sarg on July 09, 2018, 11:30:25 AM
@sarg why do you oil if covering with two other water resistant layers anyway? While you are busy not sharing secrets what varnish do you tend to go for? :) Ta!


I don’t want a brittle toe. Oils penetrate the toe, but before it fully sets I very lightly varnish the toe and stand it upside down. The varnish should seal the ends of the fibres  in a capillary action. it also makes  a tacky surface that the shoe goo bonds too really well.

I did do two layers of varnish, but I have stopped that.

Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: sarg on July 09, 2018, 11:41:27 AM
he does an incredibly neat job thats for sure!

(https://image.ibb.co/k3zSRo/36684072_1870731656564299_573083885806551040_n.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://image.ibb.co/fAYAe8/36717308_1870731699897628_8154680776567291904_n.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://image.ibb.co/ffTbK8/36674184_1870731669897631_484347709692575744_n.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

That bat is top secret @delazy! Btw courier didn’t come today. Leaving tomorrow.
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: sarg on July 09, 2018, 11:43:02 AM
post the before and after shots @delazy!
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Mfarank on July 09, 2018, 12:39:32 PM
Errr No.

There is no way i will disclose my secret two layers of linseed oil followed by one layer of a clear oil based varnish before finishing with a single later of shoe goo (waiting for each coat to dry). Never.

Damn. I had it made until I wrote all that down. @Mfarank
Hahaha cheers mate! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Biggie Smalls on July 10, 2018, 01:31:22 AM
As always , nice work sarg .
I have been doing shoe goo toes for about 25yrs so i know how to get a nice , neat surface (it is actually easy , once the outer surface forms a skin and is touch dry you can use your fingers to smooth out the surface etc) . But , i think a lot of people avoid shoe goo simply because they tried it once or twice , got messy results , and then avoided it in the future .
I say the newbies should stick it out , even practice doing a couple of old bats first , until they are confident .
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Biggie Smalls on July 10, 2018, 01:32:55 AM
^also , for the first six hrs or so you can push the goo around a bit to even it out on the toe if necessary.
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: delazy on July 10, 2018, 02:54:54 AM

I say the newbies should stick it out , even practice doing a couple of old bats first , until they are confident .

Can confirm that's me...have done a couple of personal bats over the years but never been satisfied with the finish I was able to get...being incredibly fussy I generally went without...will definitely give it another crack with the tips...thankfully I can thank @sarg for the awesome finish on the new stick!
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: sarg on July 10, 2018, 05:17:58 AM
^also , for the first six hrs or so you can push the goo around a bit to even it out on the toe if necessary.


Apply with a knife. spread it out. Then lick your finger and spread it around and smooth it out. Like applying silicone. don't lick your finger afterwards lol.

then stand it upside down and leave it for 24 hours. I use a cloth buffer to get a nice edge.
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Aussiecollector on July 10, 2018, 07:05:31 AM
I know someone who over the years has eaten about 2kgs of the stuff , finger licking good , it is the best protection for your bats toe bu far , now marc @sarg , do you prefer to oil or wax  a bat , that is another question for you to share your knowledge on ???
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Biggie Smalls on July 10, 2018, 09:49:28 AM
I know someone who over the years has eaten about 2kgs of the stuff , finger licking good , it is the best protection for your bats toe bu far , now marc @sarg , do you prefer to oil or wax  a bat , that is another question for you to share your knowledge on ???


For me , initially a couple coats of oil. Then wax the back/exposed areas , then maintain with wax .
Others like Mr Myagi prefer to wax on , wax off . ( oh no , he didn't,  did he ?)  ;) :D
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Biggie Smalls on July 10, 2018, 09:53:08 AM

Apply with a knife. spread it out. Then lick your finger and spread it around and smooth it out. Like applying silicone. don't lick your finger afterwards lol.

then stand it upside down and leave it for 24 hours. I use a cloth buffer to get a nice edge.


Interesting to see others getting great results with varied techniques. Go to show, once you've done a few shoe goo toes, and become familiar with its spreading/curing/drying tendencies , you can start to get confident with what you can do to the stuff while still getting good results.
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Mattsky on July 12, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
1 more vote for shoe goo. Much more resilient than a toe guard.
You can always use masking tape before you put the goo on, leave it for a minute, and then peel it away to leave a nice sharp edge.
Oh, be very careful about ingesting that stuff. The tube I have is labelled as a likely carcinogen.
Keep a small bit of water handy to smooth the goo with. I'd avise not to keep licking your finger.  :o
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: sarg on July 13, 2018, 12:07:18 AM
I know someone who over the years has eaten about 2kgs of the stuff , finger licking good , it is the best protection for your bats toe bu far , now marc @sarg , do you prefer to oil or wax  a bat , that is another question for you to share your knowledge on ???

I always oil if knocking. All exposed willow and toe. twice lightly 24-48 hours apart.

i don't mind bat wax after the knock for maintenance, but a little Hyfen jeweller's polish is what i use after a knock on my polishing wheel. You will find many use it. gives a very smooth clear showroom finish.
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: sarg on July 13, 2018, 12:10:31 AM
1 more vote for shoe goo. Muchmore resilient than a toe guard.
You can always use masking tape before you put the goo on, leave it for a minute, and then peel it away to leave a nice sharp edge.
Oh, be very careful about ingesting that stuff. The tube I have is labelled as a likely carcigonen.
Keep a small bit of water handy to smooth the goo with. I'd avise not to keep licking your finger.  :o

 No one should lick my fingers. Good tip!
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: Mfarank on October 22, 2018, 03:13:12 AM
Not bad for my first attempt. Very pleased with the results. As suggested, 2 light coats of oil, 1 coat of varnish and then shoe goo. Letting everything dry completely.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mrytWpMY/20181021-184153.jpg)
Varnish layer

(https://i.postimg.cc/25rSGdJV/20181022-070750.jpg)
Shoe goo

Been drying for 12 hours. Gona leave it upright for another 24
Title: Re: How sarg does his "shoegoo varnish" thingy on toes
Post by: prim0pyr0 on October 22, 2018, 05:23:48 AM
I always oil if knocking. All exposed willow and toe. twice lightly 24-48 hours apart.

i don't mind bat wax after the knock for maintenance, but a little Hyfen jeweller's polish is what i use after a knock on my polishing wheel. You will find many use it. gives a very smooth clear showroom finish.
I use blue polishing rouge on the buffer. Blues opposite yellow in colour, so it makes the wood look whiter. Can see blue added to clear silicone rtv for the same purpose of hiding yellowing.