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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: InternalTraining on July 30, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
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Folks, lately I have been feeling extremely tired during the fielding and don't know what to do about it. I used to be able to field first and then open for the team and put up decent runs. Now, not only do I have no desire to field, but I feel enervated. Energy drinks are not helping. Having a good night sleep the night before the game is not helping. Running on a tread mill a for a mile, 2-3 days during the week before the game is also not helping. I won't deny that fact that my enthusiasm for the game has waned due to my frustration over tactical decisions. I am physically in a sense that I can hit big shots, and bat for long. I hate running simply because it drains me. I haven't had one long inning this season.
How do you maintain your fitness level or your aerobic capacity? How do you nourish and hydrate yourself during the game especially when you are older than 30s and in your 40s and 50s?
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Everything you say are fair points . For example , poor tactics or a poorly run team/club are frustrations that can impact your enthusiasm no doubt . You have to fight those things , and for me that means setting personal goals. Even when the s $#@ hits the fan i still have motivation to perform via the drive to achieve my goals.
In terms of fitness and stamina , keep doing the things you are doing ie/good nights sleep etc . Analyse your diet , can you become a leaner , meaner version of yourself ? If yes , then make some dietary changes . If not , keep doing what you're doing .
If you have health issues , injuries etc , then adjust your diet accordingly . Personally , i have found adding glucosamine , colostrum and tumeric to my diet has been a great help in managing my numerous knee and back issues . Now that I'm 40 i have started trying to avoid foods that decrease testosterone and increase foods that increase it .
I know you rock those fugly aero pads ....thats good . Lightweight all the way bro ! Can you do the same with other bits of equipment? When i started my gear restocking more than a year ago my main focus was shedding excess weight ( just ask Ayrtek Tom how much of an annoying gram weenie i was when enquiring about helmet weights !). Overall, i shed about 2lb7oz in my batting gear weight .....thats equivalent to me carrying one less bat worth of weight when batting.
Perhaps you could carbo load before games and take your own food to games too .
As for drinks /hydration during games , most people will be critical of me when i say i add creatine to my sports drinks . Stuff them , i found what works for me and i stick to it . It might take more time to stumble across what will work for you . You've got time though , right ?
Look into yoga or pilates , and general stretching...the older you get the more you need to do this .
I really focus on my core muscles. I do between 200 reps of various core exercises a day as insurance for my back and to help keep my shape when batting .
Weights wise , i try to do higher weight , lower reps to exhaustion . I also do some kettle bell work .
I used to do circuit training style hiit traing , but have had to change , due to my knees , to do my hiit training via an excercise bike . Do high intensity stuff and give the long runs a miss ....it's more efficient and saves time and saves your body too ....but im sure I'll cop it from some folks for dissing running (or any steady state cardio) in favour of high intensity , short duration , interval cardio .
Lastly , every now and then ask yourself what the 10yr old version of you would be feeling when anticipating an upcoming game .....and try to appreciate your opportunity to play as much as that 10yr old kid would have .
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Eat porridge Before the match and drink lucozade during it.
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What do you have at tea??
I keep and open the batting (and am also getting on a bit... lol) and over the years have completely changed what I have at tea.
I unfortunately no longer pile it up high on my plate as it completely deflates me and makes me feel 'heavy' in the legs. I only really eat enough to re-fuel and hydrate.
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Dioralyte before the game and also at drinks to help keep hydrated and other than that, get in the gym to improve fitness.
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What do you have at tea??
I keep and open the batting (and am also getting on a bit... lol) and over the years have completely changed what I have at tea.
I unfortunately no longer pile it up high on my plate as it completely deflates me and makes me feel 'heavy' in the legs. I only really eat enough to re-fuel and hydrate.
If we are batting second and i am opening I don't eat tea for the reason stated.
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In terms of my particular routine ....i like to carbo load , to get my energy reserves up , with my dinner the night before a game . Also i eat dinner early the night before . High fibre dinner too (this applies to my diet in general ). I go light on breakfast the morning of a game . Small amount of cereal , bran , greek yoghurt. ...nothing too heavy or bloating . I fear what it would be like to try to play constipated or bloated , so i do what i can to avoid this .
I alternate between drinking staminade/creatine drink mix (which i bring to the match ....and make whoever run out the tray at drinks break bring my premade mix out too , so im not forced to just drink sickly sweet /sugary cordial) and water during the day .
I generally avoid tea for the most part , but may pick at a few bites of something if i feel like it .....i find if i eat too much at tea i will feel sluggish , or get 'washing machine gut'.
I also find that doing everything i need to do in preparation for the game early ( ie wash whites , pack kit bag , work out travel arrangements etc etc ) helps to have a stress free start to game day , and the less stress you put yourself under , the better you can concentrate and enjoy the game , and the less likely you are to tire yourself out too early .
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What you eat whole day friday will have massive effect on saturday. I don't eat any oily, fatty or junk anyway but especially friday. Saturday morning i have omelette or egg sandwich as breakfast. Then blend 2 or 3 bananas with RAW milk, make a shake to take with me and drink it if we batting first.
During tea i have light snack with cup of tea. As someone mentioned to have creatine with drink, I personally avoid creatine during match day as it draws more water to muscles hence demanding more water so you be feeling thirsty.
During drink break or generally I avoid squash at all cost. They are full of sweeteners and don't provide any nutrition at all. My personal choice is tap water mixed with scoop of glucose and some amino acids that i take with me. During fielding i keep stretching as well to keep the blood flow going and muscles warm.
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This seems to work for me most weeks:
- 4/5 pints of Thatchers Haze Friday night (on tap, obviously)
- Tesco meal deal Saturday morning, current go to selection is a fajita chicken wrap, packet of fridge raiders and a bottle of water
- One or two plates loaded with savoury delights at tea
- 2/3 post-match pints of Haze (to re-hydrate)
- Countless jugs of Rum & Coke
#ItsAmateurCricket
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If we are batting second and i am opening I don't eat tea for the reason stated.
Me neither - I'll wait until after I've had my bat (if there's any left). Equally if we've batted first, and I'm out with 10-20 overs still to play, I want to get something to eat immediately so I have time to digest it before fielding, not be forced to wait until 15 minutes before we go out just because of some stupid arbitrary rule.
A prime example of why "tea" should just be a simple buffet that is brought out in stages that players can graze on whenever they feel hungry.
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A prime example of why "tea" should just be a simple buffet that is brought out in stages that players can graze on whenever they feel hungry.
That could be dangerous with some of the lads I play with... Lol
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This seems to work for me most weeks:
- 4/5 pints of Thatchers Haze Friday night (on tap, obviously)
- Tesco meal deal Saturday morning, current go to selection is a fajita chicken wrap, packet of fridge raiders and a bottle of water
- One or two plates loaded with savoury delights at tea
- 2/3 post-match pints of Haze (to re-hydrate)
- Countless jugs of Rum & Coke
#ItsAmateurCricket
All good and well, but o.p is asking for help/advice on how to avoid lethargy/increase stamina etc .
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Everything you say are fair points . For example , poor tactics or a poorly run team/club are frustrations that can impact your enthusiasm no doubt . You have to fight those things , and for me that means setting personal goals. Even when the s $#@ hits the fan i still have motivation to perform via the drive to achieve my goals.
In terms of fitness and stamina , keep doing the things you are doing ie/good nights sleep etc . Analyse your diet , can you become a leaner , meaner version of yourself ? If yes , then make some dietary changes . If not , keep doing what you're doing .
If you have health issues , injuries etc , then adjust your diet accordingly . Personally , i have found adding glucosamine , colostrum and tumeric to my diet has been a great help in managing my numerous knee and back issues . Now that I'm 40 i have started trying to avoid foods that decrease testosterone and increase foods that increase it .
I know you rock those fugly aero pads ....thats good . Lightweight all the way bro ! Can you do the same with other bits of equipment? When i started my gear restocking more than a year ago my main focus was shedding excess weight ( just ask Ayrtek Tom how much of an annoying gram weenie i was when enquiring about helmet weights !). Overall, i shed about 2lb7oz in my batting gear weight .....thats equivalent to me carrying one less bat worth of weight when batting.
Perhaps you could carbo load before games and take your own food to games too .
As for drinks /hydration during games , most people will be critical of me when i say i add creatine to my sports drinks . Stuff them , i found what works for me and i stick to it . It might take more time to stumble across what will work for you . You've got time though , right ?
Look into yoga or pilates , and general stretching...the older you get the more you need to do this .
I really focus on my core muscles. I do between 200 reps of various core exercises a day as insurance for my back and to help keep my shape when batting .
Weights wise , i try to do higher weight , lower reps to exhaustion . I also do some kettle bell work .
I used to do circuit training style hiit traing , but have had to change , due to my knees , to do my hiit training via an excercise bike . Do high intensity stuff and give the long runs a miss ....it's more efficient and saves time and saves your body too ....but im sure I'll cop it from some folks for dissing running (or any steady state cardio) in favour of high intensity , short duration , interval cardio .
Lastly , every now and then ask yourself what the 10yr old version of you would be feeling when anticipating an upcoming game .....and try to appreciate your opportunity to play as much as that 10yr old kid would have .
Those Aeros are beautiful, bruh. :D
The only heavy kit I use is my bat which is 2-11.7, its been a good friend to me. :)
You maketh good points. Weekend club cricket is supposed to be fun. Bad decisions by one person just makes it an un-fun activity hence the mental long face. You just expect people to have their poop together by now.
I will experiment with HIIT instead of running (took up recently) which is a nightmare on my knees and shins. I don't understand how people run long distances, my legs cry out in agony after a mile.
I try to do a carbo-load as much as I can on the day before, with light brekkie on the day of the match. I am just getting so tired. I also take X2 Performance energy drink at regular intervals, it has caffeine and that makes jittery and does a number on my mood as well.
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How is sleep and life stresses over an extended period? Fatigue accumulates and has nothing to do with a good nights sleep before.
Sleep is good but stress levels are very high.
Hydration and fuelling during cricket are also challenging especially when hot. A half cup of juice every 20 overs is quite backwards but that is what most of us do. I've been absolutely wiped out in the hotter weather we've been having in the UK. What energy drinks are you using?
We drink gatorade but it is nothing but sugary poop! Juice is a good idea. I use X2Performance energy drink during the game, it has caffeine which makes me jittery.
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What do you have at tea??
I keep and open the batting (and am also getting on a bit... lol) and over the years have completely changed what I have at tea.
I unfortunately no longer pile it up high on my plate as it completely deflates me and makes me feel 'heavy' in the legs. I only really eat enough to re-fuel and hydrate.
We don't have tea. We have a 10 minute break at every 20 overs and then a meal at the end of the game. I effing hate how disorganized our games are!!!!!
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In terms of my particular routine ....i like to carbo load , to get my energy reserves up , with my dinner the night before a game . Also i eat dinner early the night before . High fibre dinner too (this applies to my diet in general ). I go light on breakfast the morning of a game . Small amount of cereal , bran , greek yoghurt. ...nothing too heavy or bloating . I fear what it would be like to try to play constipated or bloated , so i do what i can to avoid this .
I alternate between drinking staminade/creatine drink mix (which i bring to the match ....and make whoever run out the tray at drinks break bring my premade mix out too , so im not forced to just drink sickly sweet /sugary cordial) and water during the day .
I generally avoid tea for the most part , but may pick at a few bites of something if i feel like it .....i find if i eat too much at tea i will feel sluggish , or get 'washing machine gut'.
I also find that doing everything i need to do in preparation for the game early ( ie wash whites , pack kit bag , work out travel arrangements etc etc ) helps to have a stress free start to game day , and the less stress you put yourself under , the better you can concentrate and enjoy the game , and the less likely you are to tire yourself out too early .
I couldn't agree more with everything you've written. Eliminate stress, pack early, sleep early, eat well 36 hours before the game, not eating heavy meal during the game or before...
I will try energy drinks minus the caffeine and see how it helps. We don't have "lucozade" here, we have gatored - sweet water with electrolytes and food coloring.
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Apples, Grapes, Bananas, Melons, WaterMelons and any other fruit that is available. Crush all of it in a blender
Pour into a nice big bottle/thermos and take with you to a game in a cooler
Every break drink a bit of it so its all gone when you come off the field for the last time. Helps with Sugars, Heat etc...for me atleast and you don't get the same heavy feeling as you would after eating. I don't like energy drinks, so water, sometimes gatorade and this.
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This seems to work for me most weeks:
- 4/5 pints of Thatchers Haze Friday night (on tap, obviously)
- Tesco meal deal Saturday morning, current go to selection is a fajita chicken wrap, packet of fridge raiders and a bottle of water
- One or two plates loaded with savoury delights at tea
- 2/3 post-match pints of Haze (to re-hydrate)
- Countless jugs of Rum & Coke
#ItsAmateurCricket
Clearly you are a young man with an amazing metabolism. I is old, bruh. :D
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Apples, Grapes, Bananas, Melons, WaterMelons and any other fruit that is available. Crush all of it in a blender
Pour into a nice big bottle/thermos and take with you to a game in a cooler
I bought a new blender during Amazon Prime sale, time to put it to use. :D
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Folks, lately I have been feeling extremely tired during the fielding and don't know what to do about it. I used to be able to field first and then open for the team and put up decent runs. Now, not only do I have no desire to field, but I feel enervated. Energy drinks are not helping. Having a good night sleep the night before the game is not helping. Running on a tread mill a for a mile, 2-3 days during the week before the game is also not helping. I won't deny that fact that my enthusiasm for the game has waned due to my frustration over tactical decisions. I am physically in a sense that I can hit big shots, and bat for long. I hate running simply because it drains me. I haven't had one long inning this season.
How do you maintain your fitness level or your aerobic capacity? How do you nourish and hydrate yourself during the game especially when you are older than 30s and in your 40s and 50s?
sounds like symptoms of salt/mineral depletion. you could be low on sodium and magnesium. switch to pink himalayan salt or celtic sea salt (instead of table salt), increase intake of leafy greens (spinach, kale, etc), and start consuming slow cooked bone broth (very rich in minerals - Whole Foods probably has some).
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sounds like symptoms of salt/mineral depletion. you could be low on sodium and magnesium. switch to pink himalayan salt or celtic sea salt (instead of table salt), increase intake of leafy greens (spinach, kale, etc), and start consuming slow cooked bone broth (very rich in minerals - Whole Foods probably has some).
Saurkraut is also very good for repleneshing sodium.. you can even just drink the Saurkraut brine - look it up!
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sounds like symptoms of salt/mineral depletion. you could be low on sodium and magnesium. switch to pink himalayan salt or celtic sea salt (instead of table salt), increase intake of leafy greens (spinach, kale, etc), and start consuming slow cooked bone broth (very rich in minerals - Whole Foods probably has some).
Amen to that!
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Amen to that!
i have started sipping broth at games, instead of any sports drinks. remarkable difference. here are two good articles on it:
https://www.outsideonline.com/1928791/athletes-guide-bone-broth-soup (https://www.outsideonline.com/1928791/athletes-guide-bone-broth-soup)
https://medium.com/daodesport/why-top-athletes-drink-bone-broth-and-why-you-should-too-62d616e24722 (https://medium.com/daodesport/why-top-athletes-drink-bone-broth-and-why-you-should-too-62d616e24722)
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^ Good stuff!!
Do you heat it in the morning or just goes straight from the fridge to a carry-on bottle?
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I thought about this a lot as a keeper (and once upon a time a middle order batsman).
I think you have to try lots of stuff to find what works for you. There are some very expensive options that I believe are largely psychosomatic. I listened to a podcast featuring an expert on salt in the diet. He said we are far too obsessed with hydration and drinking just water is absolutely fine. We don't lose much in terms of electrolytes etc when we sweat so those drinks are sometimes unnecessary.
So anyway, on game days I now have:
Ginger tea (fresh ginger sliced, in boiling water).
Banana pancakes for breakfast. 2 eggs and a mashed banana whisked together with and chia seeds. Fried in coconut oil. With berries, yoghurt and maple syrup on the side.
Lunch - before the match starts (about an 60-90mins before I start) is usually something like chicken, sweet potato and salad. Not a big portion.
Between innings - overnight oats. 1/2 cup oats, 1/2 cup milk, cinnamon, table spoon chia seeds, berries, teaspoon of honey. Make it the night before. Quick to eat, not too heavy on your stomach and nice slow energy release.
After the game I usually treat myself to a filthy take away.
Hydration-wise I just drink water. Usually 1-1.5 litres from waking to the start of the match. Probably the same amount during the game whenever you can.
I rarely touch teas now. I look at them as the worst kind of food for sport and also a load of junk that I can avoid. I tend to limit myself to 3 naughty meals per week. I'd rather have a nice curry after the game than beige rubbish during it.
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^ Good stuff!!
Do you heat it in the morning or just goes straight from the fridge to a carry-on bottle?
I take it in a vacuum flask to maintain temperature.. hot or cold.. depends entirely on your preference.
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I find having a bit of banana (1/3rd banana each time) every break (15 overs or so) helps manage my energy levels. I am however looking for other ways to keep energetic too. I observe that during practice sessions, I feel energetic for 3 hours on the go but when it comes to games, I don't feel the same energy even at 1-2 hours. So maybe it also got to do with the pressure of the game, maybe not taking the pressure and enjoying the game more as I do in practice will help with energy levels.
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Clearly you are a young man with an amazing metabolism. I is old, bruh. :D
Haha sadly not, whilst only 26 my metabolism is pants! Rocking a strong 'dad bod' to prove it.
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There is always the consideration that food is not all you need to have energy. I am much fitter this season and find I have far more energy generally. I certainly bat better when I am fit.
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I used to try sorts.
Eat pasta heavy meals Friday night.
Big breakfast and dinner before game.
Energy drinks
Taking food with me.
Switching to high protein foods to keep levels high.
Nothing really mattered.
About 18 months ago I started at the gym, go 6 times a week, an hour of weights and 20mins on treadmill or stepper after.
I just eat breakfast and dinner as normal before I game, ensure I’m hydrated, and I rarely run out of energy during the game anymore.
It’d be hard to play all days without food, but being fitter does help
As for tea, I’m an opening batsman, but I love a good cricket tea, I eat as much as I want, including buns, and it’s never had an effect on me in the second innings.
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True dat.
I have become very unfit and I hate running because it is high impact. I have to lose weight. Period. My fear is that I might lose muscle mass when I start "cutting".
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You won’t lose muscle if you are training weights and keeping protein intake up.
It’s more about diet! Eat healthy while increasing exercise and you will lose fat not weight!
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True dat.
I have become very unfit and I hate running because it is high impact. I have to lose weight. Period. My fear is that I might lose muscle mass when I start "cutting".
Inzie ! , is that you mate ? :D
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^ ROTFLOL
Yes, shorter version of him. :D I just want to hit boundaries and sixes now. Hate running between the wickets.
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You won’t lose muscle if you are training weights and keeping protein intake up.
It’s more about diet! Eat healthy while increasing exercise and you will lose fat not weight!
I am done with the season so now I can focus on my stomach. I have included cardio before and after my lifting and also changed up my diet. Ever tried intermittent fasting? Day 2! I am craving sweets/carbs like a motherf*****!