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Cricket Manufacturers / Brands => Kippax Cricket => Topic started by: Kippax on September 04, 2018, 02:50:07 PM
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we have just uploaded a new video explaining and talking a bit about our wavex handle and how it works. search kippax cricket on youtube to find it feel free to like share and subscribe or ask any other questions on this topic thank you.
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Thanks for putting an explanation on Youtube. Very interesting.
So, not only does it reduce vibrations in the hand (not an issue I notice when I bat), but it redirects energy back into the blade, thus increasing the rebound effect. I am not sure I follow the science, but good to see new innovations.
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Shared on my page. Ta
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thank you for sharing on your page much appreciated. as for the science behind it vibration travels in a straight line so in a standard oval handle the vibration just goes up your handle and into your wrist and elbows. where as with the wavex handle when we sent it for testing it showed that the vibration could not travel up the handle because of the the waves and ripples there for forcing the vibrations back down towards the center off your bat giving you a extra 40/50 percent power in your shots.
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@Kippax am I right in thinking the Wavex handle only has a single rubber insert?
Was this tested with the traditional 2 and 3 inserts too during the early stages?
I'm curious as to why you've gone for less, while other makers are producing handles with 5 or 7 now
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giving you a extra 40/50 percent power in your shots.
Is that documented? Seems an incredibly high increase in energy transfer
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Is that documented? Seems an incredibly high increase in energy transfer
Would also be keen to see more info on the testing that just the graph, if only from a science/engineering geek pov.
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Would also be keen to see more info on the testing that just the graph, if only from a science/engineering geek pov.
Same here, just genuinely interested! :)
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because of the wavex configuration the handle already has more spring in than a stand handle so only one is needed also with the waves in the handle if we had 3 springs they would end up running to close together in the bat
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Interesting!
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50% more power in your shots - just wondering if all the pros know this and use your handles and if not why not !? Thats quite a claim - 10% would be useful to a batsman but as much as 50% more power in your shots ? Thats an absolutely massive increase not small gains. I too would like to see the scientific data behind this innovation.
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Im asuming it's 50% of the power lost from a conventional handle, not total power
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giving you a extra 40/50 percent power in your shots.
The claim is an increase in 40/50 percent power in your shots
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Seems improbable..... but I'd be happy to be convinced!!
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The claim is an increase in 40/50 percent power in your shots
50% less energy was felt at the top of the WAVEX handle, rather than travelling to the handle, this energy was re-directed to the ball impact point
is what it states.
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50% less energy was felt at the top of the WAVEX handle, rather than travelling to the handle, this energy was re-directed to the ball impact point
is what it states.
I'm ok with the first clause in that...
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These have been around for a few years now?
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a number of the England team have been using them over the last couple of years and all our pros we sponsor use them. as for the testing we tested two bats one with a straight handle and one with a waxev handle and as the results showed The power ratio when measured in reference to angular ball speed (the amount of force striking the bat) is significantly greater with the waves over the bat without the waves. Higher dampening of vibration waves in all axis tend to indicate more energy transfer from the bat to the ball. We conclude from our tests that the wavex design significantly improves the power ratio of the bat by up to 50% you can check our results on our website
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Graham Thorpe was rumoured to have liked one, going way back.
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a number of the England team have been using them over the last couple of years and all our pros we sponsor use them. as for the testing we tested two bats one with a straight handle and one with a waxev handle and as the results showed The power ratio when measured in reference to angular ball speed (the amount of force striking the bat) is significantly greater with the waves over the bat without the waves. Higher dampening of vibration waves in all axis tend to indicate more energy transfer from the bat to the ball. We conclude from our tests that the wavex design significantly improves the power ratio of the bat by up to 50% you can check our results on our website
I'm getting mixed messages ???
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44921.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44921.0)
and all our pros use wavex and the other international players we make for have to use straight handles
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Could be that the number of England players is 1.
Anyway, don't let this turn into a witch hunt, I just want to know more, always fascinated by companies who are prepared to try new things with their bats, rather than just design shinier stickers and polish the bats for longer.
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with it being a kippax product not all other companies let there international players have them but in the ashes there was 4 players on wavex and and 3 with straight handles never had any negative feedback and ever one of our pros joined the kippax brand previously using straight handles but was easy converted and never looked back.
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I remember David Curtis doing a blog on these and digging up an old, similar patent. I love how 2 very distinct ideas, from centuries apart, are similar in concept. No idea if/how the tech works but nice to see something different.
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They must have been convinced that worked given how much longer it would take to hand make over a standard handle! Great post @Tom
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if you look in majority of others sports the wavex handle is used by major companies like golf tennis hockey to name a couple. theres been big cricketing branding wanting to buy the pattern off us but for kippax this is a big selling point that no one else in cricket has.
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with it being a kippax product not all other companies let there international players have them but in the ashes there was 4 players on wavex and and 3 with straight handles never had any negative feedback and ever one of our pros joined the kippax brand previously using straight handles but was easy converted and never looked back.
So the player's sponsor has to actually approve a different manufacturer's product being used?
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some brands are very uptight about there sponsors and where they get there equipment from a lot of the county players dont use bats made by who they are sponsored by because nearly every big brand now get all there bats imported from oversea so you tend to get players contacting you after blank bats so they know they are getting the best quality equipment possible. so if theres a wavex handle in there bat its easy to tell that its a kippax and not what the stickers are on the bat so the bigger name players get told that they have to use the straight handle for advertising and promotion reasons
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If the brands are fully aware that this is going on, we are definitely moving into Trading Standards territory - as our friend Paul Aldred suggests in one of his videos.
I thought Indian bats were highly thought of nowadays?
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some brands are very uptight about there sponsors and where they get there equipment from a lot of the county players dont use bats made by who they are sponsored by because nearly every big brand now get all there bats imported from oversea so you tend to get players contacting you after blank bats so they know they are getting the best quality equipment possible. so if theres a wavex handle in there bat its easy to tell that its a kippax and not what the stickers are on the bat so the bigger name players get told that they have to use the straight handle for advertising and promotion reasons
Are Wavex handles available to bat makers in the USA?
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If the brands are fully aware that this is going on, we are definitely moving into Trading Standards territory - as our friend Paul Aldred suggests in one of his videos.
Who called the fun police?
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I remember David Curtis doing a blog on these and digging up an old, similar patent. I love how 2 very distinct ideas, from centuries apart, are similar in concept. No idea if/how the tech works but nice to see something different.
Interesting historical find there Tom, wonder if Kippax would like to try to make one as an experiment and compare it with the wavex handle.
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Are Wavex handles available to bat makers in the USA?
yes you can buy kippax in usa drop me a message on facebook instagram or twitter
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Digging up an old thread. I have been using my teammates Kippax problade for a few weeks. He had been using it for about 3 seasons and a poor shot led to the bat splitting across the toe. He had given up on it so i took it off him and repaired it using wood glue and dowels and been testing it to see if it would last. Im not the type of batsman who middles a lot and I can testify that i have not felt any vibrations or shock in my hands at all playing with this bat as compared to my other bats. Not sure about the increase in power but i did hit a six off the bottom of the bat just today without feeling anything in my hands. Will be doing a detailed video soon on my channel