Custom Bats Cricket Forum
Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: ibrartariq on October 05, 2018, 11:10:31 AM
-
Hi
Some of you might have read my new custom robinson sports cricket bat thread.
The bat taps very well and ball does pings great but i am facing an issue of bottom heavy bat and it is effecting the overall feel.
Any ideas on how to reduce some weight at the toe area without compromising too much.
I have added a counter balance now to see if it helps but i want a proepr solution fkr the jssue.
I dont have access to pod shaver but sand papers and sanding machine can be acquired if needed.
-
Travisher will do the trick. Sandpaper wouldnt be a good pick, if youre fixed on using it a chissel first then paper would be better
-
Could dry it out to reduce weight
-
If possible use a sander and finish with fine sand paper sand from toe to bottom of spine following grains if not possible use 240 grit it will do it it just takes longer.
-
Travisher will do the trick. Sandpaper wouldnt be a good pick, if youre fixed on using it a chissel first then paper would be better
cant find a travisher here in australia, chissel seems like way to go but again if i am not experienced enough i might damage the bat.
I have asked couple of people and they are asking 130 dollars to just reduce some weight of the toe which seems a rip off to me tbh.
-
Could dry it out to reduce weight
overall weight is not an issue, its only 2lbs 9.5 oz.
-
cant find a travisher here in australia, chissel seems like way to go but again if i am not experienced enough i might damage the bat.
I have asked couple of people and they are asking 130 dollars to just reduce some weight of the toe which seems a rip off to me tbh.
hand sander or machine?
-
Hi
Some of you might have read my new custom robinson sports cricket bat thread.
The bat taps very well and ball does pings great but i am facing an issue of bottom heavy bat and it is effecting the overall feel.
Any ideas on how to reduce some weight at the toe area without compromising too much.
I have added a counter balance now to see if it helps but i want a proepr solution fkr the jssue.
I dont have access to pod shaver but sand papers and sanding machine can be acquired if needed.
Whereabouts in Australia are you ?
-
Whereabouts in Australia are you ?
adelaide
-
Given it is an indian bat, I doubt drying it out further will be a good bet.
Definitely speak to Hoover, I have an inkling he would be able to help you...
adelaide
Humm Perth is a fraction more than just up the road from Adelaide!
-
Given it is an indian bat, I doubt drying it out further will be a good bet.
Definitely speak to Hoover, I have an inkling he would be able to help you...
Humm Perth is a fraction more than just up the road from Adelaide!
It is just about 3500km straight road ;)
-
the reason i wanna try this myself is that someone in sydney recently destroyed my 800 dollars GN signature.
I sent that for weight reduction, although the weight is reduced but bottom 4 inches of the bat are absolutely dead now.
Vibrates like crazy there. if i can either find a solution to stop that from happening then i am better off with my signature but i reckon there is nothing that can be done to revive the bottom 4 inches on the signature.
-
adelaide
We can fix it for $85 plus freight. Your call.
-
buy a semi circle shaped sanding block
-
sell it and buy a bat that suits you. No point in ruining or altering a fine bat just because it doesn't suit you.
-
the reason i wanna try this myself is that someone in sydney recently destroyed my 800 dollars GN signature.
I sent that for weight reduction, although the weight is reduced but bottom 4 inches of the bat are absolutely dead now.
Vibrates like crazy there. if i can either find a solution to stop that from happening then i am better off with my signature but i reckon there is nothing that can be done to revive the bottom 4 inches on the signature.
This is why I am opposed to bat weight reductions and other bat operations.
It helps to understand what kind of bats (swell position, weight, etc.) work for you and sticking with them when ordering over the 'net. Experiments are great, I have had my share of them, but you end up losing a lot of money.
-
I've used a Dremel with a rough grit sanding head in the past to duck bill a few bats, I started with and old broken one to practice but soon found that if you were gentle enough and patient enough, that it can remove enough wood to make a tangible difference and it also provides with really good accuracy.
To each their own of course, some will say it is a terrible idea, and heck, it probably is, but worth a thought if you are determined to not send the bat away.
-
sell it and buy a bat that suits you. No point in ruining or altering a fine bat just because it doesn't suit you.
Completely agree with the comment. I have spent enough $$ in the past on this similar issue and still was not happy with the outcome ( and I don't doubt the ability of the guy who did the refurbish).
-
If possible use a sander and finish with fine sand paper sand from toe to bottom of spine following grains if not possible use 240 grit it will do it it just takes longer.
Any ideas on the sequence of the grits to go for? Start to finish.
I dont need much i just want to reduce a bit on the sides of the toe so makong it sort of roundish
-
cant find a travisher here in australia, chissel seems like way to go but again if i am not experienced enough i might damage the bat.
I have asked couple of people and they are asking 130 dollars to just reduce some weight of the toe which seems a rip off to me tbh.
Don't use a Chisel as you could gauge the wood out concentrate on removing the wood from the dead dead area of the toe.
-
Any ideas on the sequence of the grits to go for? Start to finish.
I dont need much i just want to reduce a bit on the sides of the toe so makong it sort of roundish
Start with 240 and finish as low grade and as smooth as you want your bat. I use a specialist Finishing paper to get a silky finish.
You could make a cardboard template and Mark around it to work to the exact shape of toe you want.
-
I am surprised you are finding it heavy at that weight
What weight do you normally go for
For a real pinging bat it's a real shame
In the heat of Aussie you will lose another Oz easy ?
-
I am surprised you are finding it heavy at that weight
What weight do you normally go for
For a real pinging bat it's a real shame
In the heat of Aussie you will lose another Oz easy ?
I am not finding it heavy as in for weight, its more like slight pick up issue.
I have removed the anti scuff sheet, few stickers from bottm area as well as added some counter balance in the handle.
Will use it in the game tomorrow and see how it goes and then take it from there.
Its a beautiful bat and no doubt that RS has produced a stunner for me. Its just pick up which is a bit weird atm.
-
Start with 240 and finish as low grade and as smooth as you want your bat.
You could make a cardboard template and Mark around it to work to the exact shape of toe you want.
Yup i have no plans of using any hardcore tools. I will get a hand sander to remove a bit from the back around sides to make it more like curvy round back.
Do you reckon it is good idea that i removed the anti scuff sheet to use it naked to see if it would help with pick up a bit.
And the cardboard template, can you help me with that please? A bit more explanation on how to do that in terms if shaping.
As i am going to take some weight off from the back around the spine line.
-
I am not finding it heavy as in for weight, its more like slight pick up issue.
Have you tried using a rolled-up second grip as a counter weight? I works very nicely for bats with mid-low sweet spots. Your weight will go up to 2-10-ish but it is manageable.
-
Have you tried using a rolled-up second grip as a counter weight? I works very nicely for bats with mid-low sweet spots. Your weight will go up to 2-10-ish but it is manageable.
Yup i have added half grip, rolled up at top of the handle.
Will use it in the game and if it goes ok then will stick to It.
-
Not being funny but if it's not too heavy then what's the problem? Would removing a bit of wood by sanding really make any difference? It looks a great bat so would be a shame to change it. I got it in my head that I needed something with as lighter pick and sold a really nice H4L, got a really nice BB instead but it's really not much different. I reckon a lot is in the individuals head tbh and adding/removing, stickers etc just doesn't really change anything in terms of feel. Just play with it, I'll sure it'll be fine. Or sell it before doing something which might ruin it.
-
The scuff Sheet hardly weighs anything so it wouldn't help much. To make a template use 2 smooth pieces of card draw the toe shape you want for the back and front of the bat ( maybe copy from another bat or use a compass or protractor )
Cut the template to the shapes you have drawn place the templates on the bat and draw around them using indelrible pen or silmular then sand to drawn lines
-
Not being funny but if it's not too heavy then what's the problem? Would removing a bit of wood by sanding really make any difference? It looks a great bat so would be a shame to change it. I got it in my head that I needed something with as lighter pick and sold a really nice H4L, got a really nice BB instead but it's really not much different. I reckon a lot is in the individuals head tbh and adding/removing, stickers etc just doesn't really change anything in terms of feel. Just play with it, I'll sure it'll be fine. Or sell it before doing something which might ruin it.
Depends on balance point. If its too low and heavy itll be sluggish to use, and horizontal bat shots will be difficult.
Take 3oz out of the bottom of a 2lb9oz low swell bat and you end up with a light bar with no middle.
Could try lighter gloves, bat without wearing a watch.
-
Depends on balance point. If its too low and heavy itll be sluggish to use, and horizontal bat shots will be difficult.
Take 3oz out of the bottom of a 2lb9oz low swell bat and you end up with a light bar with no middle.
Could try lighter gloves, bat without wearing a watch.
This is what i did today in the game.
Used counter balance and used lighter gloves and it sort of made the pick up better.
Will keep trying it and if i het used to it i would rather stay with the same profile then
I have a question though, after batting for a while, although i did not see any seem marks or indentations on the face etc but my toe area is feathering a bit from the face.
Is it normal if we drag the bat when running or tap it ?
-
Not seeing seam marks or indentations is a good sign.
When you drag your bat or tap it expect feathering sand out the feathering and harden the feathering area or apply toe protection.
-
sell it and buy a bat that suits you. No point in ruining or altering a fine bat just because it doesn't suit you.
As a long time RS fan and compulsive bat buyer I’d echo these comments.
If it’s not right it’s not right and no amount of tinkering will help... especially now u “think” of it as bottom heavy
Sell it for as close as you paid for it as you can and buy again.
-
Not seeing seam marks or indentations is a good sign.
When you drag your bat or tap it expect feathering sand out the feathering and harden the feathering area or apply toe protection.
Thanks for the help.
I went with sanding today with hand ( sanding block )
Used 60grits first, then 80 and then 120 to give it some finish but will go over it with a finer grit tomorrow to make even smoother finish.
Before this, the bat was 2lbs 9.9 ounces undressed. Now after shoe goo, anti scuff sheet and edge tapes etc on it is weighing at 2lbs 9.5 ounces so surely sandpaper did the trick.
Specially it does not feel bottom heavy anymore and can swing it way better now.
After using the bat in the game today and seeing the ball actually travelling in the first game, i am thoroughly impressed with the bat and will keep it for sure.
Pictures to follow. I did not alter the profile too much but tried to round the back of the toe a bit more circular which is helping alot now.
-
Intrigued to see pics
-
So here are the pics, before sanding the back of the edges at the back going to the toe were slightly flat which gave that massive thickness to the toe on the sides too. So i tried to introduce the curve a bit at the back making sure edges size is cut a but on sides and keeping it larger at the line following the spine. It did take ne some time with hand sanding but it was the safest option as i had not done it ever before.
Bat feels way nicer now, initialy i had about 6 to 7 cut grips at top and now only have 3 to help with pick up and dead weight has gone down too.
(https://i.imgur.com/gzfdtDO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uhJgjlt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SSJNflr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6QuacLZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1dgN2O1.jpg)
-
Thanks for the help.
I went with sanding today with hand ( sanding block )
Used 60grits first, then 80 and then 120 to give it some finish but will go over it with a finer grit tomorrow to make even smoother finish.
Before this, the bat was 2lbs 9.9 ounces undressed. Now after shoe goo, anti scuff sheet and edge tapes etc on it is weighing at 2lbs 9.5 ounces so surely sandpaper did the trick.
Specially it does not feel bottom heavy anymore and can swing it way better now.
After using the bat in the game today and seeing the ball actually travelling in the first game, i am thoroughly impressed with the bat and will keep it for sure.
Pictures to follow. I did not alter the profile too much but tried to round the back of the toe a bit more circular which is helping alot now.
You can feel the difference of 0.4 oz and this small reduction has completely changed the feel??! Fair play, not sure I could tell with such small changes.
-
As a long time RS fan and compulsive bat buyer I’d echo these comments.
If it’s not right it’s not right and no amount of tinkering will help... especially now u “think” of it as bottom heavy
Sell it for as close as you paid for it as you can and buy again.
I love the ping and response from the bat.
It actually got me out today too because of its ping lol.
Pulled one and it hit a bit higher and more towards edge and carried to the fielder at long boundry. Was not expecting that to happen but its a good thing that bat performs great.
Not selling it. Have sorted the issue already.
-
You can feel the difference of 0.4 oz and this small reduction has completely changed the feel??! Fair play, not sure I could tell with such small changes.
Pal 2lbs 9.9 ounces was the weight before oiling, pretty thick antiscuff sheet, edge tapes, show goo and 1/3 of an extra thick grip.
Now after sanding the toe from the back and adding all of the above the weight is 2lbs 9.5 ounces so its about an ounce of reduction if you consider all the factors. Paul aldred’s video about bat balance demonstrates it pretty well where he introduces about 0.5 ounces of wood at the toe emphasising the fact that it even half an ounce can make huge difference in the pickup.
-
Pal 2lbs 9.9 ounces was the weight before oiling, pretty thick antiscuff sheet, edge tapes, show goo and 1/3 of an extra thick grip.
Now after sanding the toe from the back and adding all of the above the weight is 2lbs 9.5 ounces so its about an ounce of reduction if you consider all the factors. Paul aldred’s video about bat balance demonstrates it pretty well where he introduces about 0.5 ounces of wood at the toe emphasising the fact that it even half an ounce can make huge difference in the pickup.
0.5 ounce upwards can make a difference to the pickup if it is removed from the the first 4 inches up from the toe.
-
0.5 ounce upwards can make a difference to the pickup if it is removed from the the first 4 inches up from the toe.
That is what i have donw too.
-
0.5 ounce upwards can make a difference to the pickup if it is removed from the the first 4 inches up from the toe.
Interesting, never knew those specific details...cheers...