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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2018, 02:17:50 PM »

the reason i wanna try this myself is that someone in sydney recently destroyed my 800 dollars GN signature.
I sent that for weight reduction, although the weight is reduced but bottom 4 inches of the bat are absolutely dead now.
Vibrates like crazy there. if i can either find a solution to stop that from happening then i am better off with my signature but i reckon there is nothing that can be done to revive the bottom 4 inches on the signature.

This is why I am opposed to bat weight reductions and other bat operations.

It helps to understand what kind of bats (swell position, weight, etc.) work for you and sticking with them when ordering over the 'net. Experiments are great, I have had my share of them, but you end up losing a lot of money.
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2018, 02:28:02 PM »

I've used a Dremel with a rough grit sanding head in the past to duck bill a few bats, I started with and old broken one to practice but soon found that if you were gentle enough and patient enough, that it can remove enough wood to make a tangible difference and it also provides with really good accuracy.

To each their own of course, some will say it is a terrible idea, and heck, it probably is, but worth a thought if you are determined to not send the bat away.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2018, 02:29:58 PM by HellomynameisJ »
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2018, 03:00:58 PM »

sell it and buy a bat that suits you. No point in ruining or altering a fine bat just because it doesn't suit you.

Completely agree with the comment. I have spent enough $$ in the past on this similar issue and still was not happy with the outcome ( and I don't doubt the ability of the guy who did the refurbish).
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2018, 03:32:37 PM »

If possible use a sander and finish with fine sand paper sand from  toe to bottom  of spine following grains if not possible use 240 grit it will do it it just takes longer.
Any ideas on the sequence of the grits to go for? Start to finish.
I dont need much i just want to reduce a bit on the sides of the toe so makong it sort of roundish
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2018, 03:43:12 PM »

cant find a travisher here in australia, chissel seems like way to go but again if i am not experienced enough i might damage the bat.
I have asked couple of people and they are asking 130 dollars to just reduce some weight of the toe which seems a rip off to me tbh.

Don't use a Chisel  as you could gauge the wood out  concentrate on  removing the wood from the dead dead area of the toe.
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2018, 03:46:19 PM »

Any ideas on the sequence of the grits to go for? Start to finish.
I dont need much i just want to reduce a bit on the sides of the toe so makong it sort of roundish

Start with  240  and finish  as low  grade and as smooth as you want your bat. I use a specialist Finishing paper to get a silky finish.
You could make a cardboard template and Mark around it to work to the exact shape of toe you want.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2018, 04:26:23 PM by Seniorplayer »
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2018, 03:47:47 PM »

I am surprised you are finding it heavy at that weight

What weight do you normally go for

For a real pinging bat it's a real shame
In the heat of Aussie you will lose another Oz easy ?
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2018, 03:51:21 PM »

I am surprised you are finding it heavy at that weight

What weight do you normally go for

For a real pinging bat it's a real shame
In the heat of Aussie you will lose another Oz easy ?
I am not finding it heavy as in for weight, its more like slight pick up issue.
I have removed the anti scuff sheet, few stickers from bottm area as well as added some counter balance in the handle.
Will use it in the game tomorrow and see how it goes and then take  it from there.
Its a beautiful bat and no doubt that RS has produced a stunner for me. Its just pick up which is a bit weird atm.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2018, 03:54:43 PM by ibrartariq »
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2018, 03:53:56 PM »

Start with  240  and finish  as low  grade and as smooth as you want your bat.
You could make a cardboard template and Mark around it to work to the exact shape of toe you want.
Yup i have no plans of using any hardcore tools. I will get a hand sander to remove a bit from the back around sides to make it more like curvy round back.
Do you reckon it is good idea that i removed the anti scuff sheet to use it naked to see if it would help with pick up a bit.
And the cardboard template, can you help me with that please? A bit more explanation on how to do that in terms if shaping.
As i am going to take some weight off from the back around the spine line.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2018, 04:17:10 PM by ibrartariq »
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2018, 03:58:05 PM »

I am not finding it heavy as in for weight, its more like slight pick up issue.

Have you tried using a rolled-up second grip as a counter weight? I works very nicely for bats with mid-low sweet spots. Your weight will go up to 2-10-ish but it is manageable.
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2018, 04:10:41 PM »

Have you tried using a rolled-up second grip as a counter weight? I works very nicely for bats with mid-low sweet spots. Your weight will go up to 2-10-ish but it is manageable.
Yup i have added half grip, rolled up at top of the handle.
Will use it in the game and if it goes ok then will stick to It.
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2018, 04:39:27 PM »

Not being funny but if it's not too heavy then what's the problem? Would removing a bit of wood by sanding really make any difference? It looks a great bat so would be a shame to change it. I got it in my head that I needed something with as lighter pick and sold a really nice H4L, got a really nice BB instead but it's really not much different. I reckon a lot is in the individuals head tbh and adding/removing, stickers etc just doesn't really change anything  in terms of feel. Just play with it, I'll sure it'll be fine. Or sell it before doing something which might ruin it.
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2018, 04:44:51 PM »

The scuff Sheet hardly weighs anything so it wouldn't help much. To make a template use 2  smooth pieces of card draw the toe shape you want  for the back and front of the bat ( maybe  copy from another bat or use a compass or protractor )
Cut the template to the shapes you have drawn place the templates  on the bat and draw around them using indelrible pen or silmular then sand to drawn lines
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2018, 09:52:27 PM »

Not being funny but if it's not too heavy then what's the problem? Would removing a bit of wood by sanding really make any difference? It looks a great bat so would be a shame to change it. I got it in my head that I needed something with as lighter pick and sold a really nice H4L, got a really nice BB instead but it's really not much different. I reckon a lot is in the individuals head tbh and adding/removing, stickers etc just doesn't really change anything  in terms of feel. Just play with it, I'll sure it'll be fine. Or sell it before doing something which might ruin it.

Depends on balance point. If its too low and heavy itll be sluggish to use, and horizontal bat shots will be difficult.
Take 3oz out of the bottom of a 2lb9oz low swell bat and you end up with a light bar with no middle.

Could try lighter gloves, bat without wearing a watch.
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Re: Weight reduction at toe area
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2018, 09:11:02 AM »

Depends on balance point. If its too low and heavy itll be sluggish to use, and horizontal bat shots will be difficult.
Take 3oz out of the bottom of a 2lb9oz low swell bat and you end up with a light bar with no middle.

Could try lighter gloves, bat without wearing a watch.
This is what i did today in the game.
Used counter balance and used lighter gloves and it sort of made the pick up better.
Will keep trying it and if i het used to it i would rather stay with the same profile then
I have a question though, after batting for a while, although i did not see any seem marks or indentations on the face etc but my toe area is feathering a bit from the face.
Is it normal if we drag the bat when running or tap it ?
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