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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: Mister Le Chiffre on December 26, 2018, 10:50:52 AM
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First Test under way. Philander injured for the hosts. Abbas and Shadab also miss out for the visitors. Haris injured himself in the warm up.
81-4 the key moment thus far was Steyn's historic 422 test wicket.
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Pakistan crumbling to Olivier 86-6
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6 down.
Olivier is steaming through them.
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Olivier looks a different bowler to the one we flogged around last year. Clearly worked on his fitness as he’s up in the 140s consistently whereas against us he was only low to mid 130s
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Pakistan failing again arhhhhhh
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Haven’t seen many spank steyn around - some batting from babar
10 x 4s in 17 balls
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Steyn getting clogged.
66 of his 13 overs so far in a score of 178 for 8 doesn’t look pretty.
Babar Azam showing some fight.
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181 all out. Babar 71 and Olivier 6fer.
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South Africa 127/5. Pak bowlers back in the match, good fight back.
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Amla should really retire, he’s a shadow of the player he once was. More or less a walking wicket these days.
I prefer these pitches that are 35-65 bowler favour pitches. Sorts the men out from the boys
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Amla should really retire, he’s a shadow of the player he once was. More or less a walking wicket these days.
I prefer these pitches that are 35-65 bowler favour pitches. Sorts the men out from the boys
Sadly agree on Amla. He’s not consistent anymore.
Agree on these wickets too.. much more enjoyable to watch when a batsmen has to earn his runs.. unlike the Aus wicket this Boxing Day test.. god dam awful
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But the Aus v India wicket is hardly a dream to bat on. They've scored just over 200 runs in a day. Grinded it out, which is something you moan about the lack of
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But the Aus v India wicket is hardly a dream to bat on. They've scored just over 200 runs in a day. Grinded it out, which is something you moan about the lack of
Nothing for the bowler. You need movement so it takes skills to survive. Nz and sa wickets seem better this set of games
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Nothing for the bowler. You need movement so it takes skills to survive. Nz and sa wickets seem better this set of games
Yeh ok makes more sense when you put it like that
Cant bare to watch cricket in UAE for that same reason
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Amla should really retire, he’s a shadow of the player he once was. More or less a walking wicket these days.
I prefer these pitches that are 35-65 bowler favour pitches. Sorts the men out from the boys
I much prefer that too. Any pitch where 250-320 represents a good score and where batsman are never really in generally produces excellent test cricket where both teams have spells on top and the balance of the game can change session by session.
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Nothing for the bowler. You need movement so it takes skills to survive. Nz and sa wickets seem better this set of games
This pitch is the worst of both world's, too slow for the batsmen to score quickly, no movement for the bowlers to work with. Test cricket is a hard sell on this type of surface
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Yeh ok makes more sense when you put it like that
Cant bare to watch cricket in UAE for that same reason
Agreed. Cricket in the UAE is really bad for test cricket. It literally is what makes draw Cricket awful.. big score plays big score with the very occasional team messing up enough to had a win to another side.
Oh well, onto the fourth test and hope it’s a good wicket
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In 13 Tests in Dubai since 2010, 3 have been drawn. The last draw was the thriller with Australia in November.
In Abu Dhabi, 4 draws. None since 2015.
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For context, the Dubai stats match Lord’s
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Ban all matches on the subcontinent because a certain few don’t like them!
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Babar Azam looked good with the bat.
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Poor batting overall from both teams so far.
I struggled to understand the SA tactics yesterday with Steyn bowling to Babar. Clearly Steyn was struggling to put Babar in any pressure but Faf relented with him. They ended up leaking too many runs in boundaries. Babar played good shots but surely the tactic should have been to starve him of runs and make him do something foolish rather than pitching it up.
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Babar was just too good . Taking the king steyn off is a big call not many expected him to rip styen apart .
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Shan’s b3 sounds so good
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Now that is interesting is he using an actual b3 or just sponsored as he's a quality player
Be good is he's using an actual b3 the stickers look well used however
Maybe b3 can confirm ?
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Now that is interesting is he using an actual b3 or just sponsored as he's a quality player
Be good is he's using an actual b3 the stickers look well used however
Maybe b3 can confirm ?
Number 3 who avg’s 21?? Quality ?? I suppose England can’t talk tbf
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Never watched him before but he looks quality today
No idea if his record and how many matches he has played ..
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Now that is interesting is he using an actual b3 or just sponsored as he's a quality player
Be good is he's using an actual b3 the stickers look well used however
Maybe b3 can confirm ?
There a couple of videos on the B3 site of him talking through his design. I think b3 makes his
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Is he a British guy that's wanted to play for Pakistan then ?
That's good and glad he's doing well . And representing a Uk brand
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From 100-1 to 150-6 with the pitch looking flat. Pretty poor stuff
Is there any point of Sarfraz in the team?
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Pakistan need 50 more runs to make this very interesting.
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A lot would argue there is no point of sarfraz in the test team
One day and 20 20 definite
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Never seen rabada before but the guy is a special bowler
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It's extraordinary how South Africa produce brilliant fast bowlers at will. Guys only after readmission - Donald, Pollock, Ntini, Steyn, Morkel, Philander, Rabada and potentially Olivier/Ngidi.
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They have produced bowlers at a faster rate than Pakistan
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Seen Olivier bowl before too and he was nothing special then...maybe its just the poor Pak batting lineup which is making him look so good
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Seen Olivier bowl before too and he was nothing special then...maybe its just the poor Pak batting lineup which is making him look so good
His improvement seems due to putting 8-10kph into his bowling. 130s up to mid 140s in this match
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Well bowled Olivier. Proved that the first innings wasnt a fluke. This should be an interesting chase.
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like the look of Afridi - for 18 he looks a great prospect - his arm and wrist are so elastic like - gets amazing whip through his action
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Looks like the match is slipping from Pak's hands.
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Pakistan really need to look at the senior batsmen here. The only two guys who scored were Babar Azam and Shan Masood. Sarfraz doesn't warrant a place in the side as a player, let alone the captain. He needs to lead from the front. Sad times for Pakistan test cricket.
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Some much needed runs for amla
Asad S has become a home track bully, appears all at sea away from home. 100-1 to 146-6 is inexcusable on a flat wicket (was the best time to bat in the test match).
Another 3 day test match - batsmen unable to grind knocks out any more
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Azhar Ali 36 and 0
Asad Shafiq 7 and 6
Sarfraz Ahmed 0 and 0
So in 6 innings Pakistan’s senior batsmen averaged 8.16 between themselves, quite frankly pathetic and you won’t win many matches anywhere with lacklustre efforts like that.
Fakhar is too loose to open in these conditions might be better off at 6 and playing like QdK.
They desperately need Abbas as well. He’s not only the spearhead but he’s capable of restricting the flow of runs which Hasan Ali cannot do.
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Pakistan really need to look at the senior batsmen here. The only two guys who scored were Babar Azam and Shan Masood. Sarfraz doesn't warrant a place in the side as a player, let alone the captain. He needs to lead from the front. Sad times for Pakistan test cricket.
Nice to see you’re still alive @rockymoghal 😂😂
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Looking forward to seeing Abbas bowl. I have a feeling that he will struggle in SA conditions where there isnt much lateral movement.
Does Pak have anyone on the bench/in reserves who can reverse their batting fortunes?
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To be fair Harris Sohail missed out due to Injury so he should be back for the next test. Pakistan batting has been a real struggle with the poor domestic structure.
And haha @19reading87 just about. I'm more of a reader.
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Second Test started in Cape Town. One change a piece Philander in, Maharaj. Abbas replaces Hasan Ali. Haris Sohail out of the series with with a knee injury.
Pakistan struggling 18-2. Steyn anc Philander get the openers
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Olivier bounces out Azhar Ali again 18-3. Pakistan being intimidated by these South African quicks
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No spin option for SA? Elgar I suppose!
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Sarfraz finally getting his team some important runs
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Pakistan 177 all out, Sarfraz 56, Shan 44 and Amir 22* showed it's possible to score runs. The rest of the batsmen where terrible. Olivier 4 and Steyn 3 wickets. Philander was a little disappointing considering the hype surrounding his record at Cape Town.
Abbas, Amir and Shaheen need to bowl out of their skins to get them back into the match
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Pakistan 177 all out, Sarfraz 56, Shan 44 and Amir 22* showed it's possible to score runs. The rest of the batsmen where terrible. Olivier 4 and Steyn 3 wickets. Philander was a little disappointing considering the hype surrounding his record at Cape Town.
Abbas, Amir and Shaheen need to Noel out of their skins to get them back into the match
Poor Noel
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Poor Noel
:D
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think SA are becoming the new India when it comes it taking out the lower order. They did the same thing in the first innings with Steyn leaking runs.
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I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to feel that this Pakistan bowling line-up is over rated. I suppose it doesn't help when your batsman fail to stand up everytime. Also disappointed that they never picked Hasan for this test match, he may be expensive but he is a genuine wicket taking bowler. Amir is bowling well but just doesn't look like he has the potency to rip apart a batting line-up anymore.
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I feel like the big issues with the Pakistan bowling line up is the lack of runs they have to play with. It's very hard to balance between taking wickets and drying up runs. It's not like these bowlers haven't performed for Pakistan before. The batsmen seriously need to step up and grind out some runs. Pujara is a perfect example of what is needed.
Hassan Ali was the easiest to drop to be fair. Amir bowled well in the last match and so did Shaheen. Abbas wasn't going to sit out once fit so Hassan Ali was the only person to drop.
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I feel like the big issues with the Pakistan bowling line up is the lack of runs they have to play with. It's very hard to balance between taking wickets and drying up runs. It's not like these bowlers haven't performed for Pakistan before. The batsmen seriously need to step up and grind out some runs. Pujara is a perfect example of what is needed.
Hassan Ali was the easiest to drop to be fair. Amir bowled well in the last match and so did Shaheen. Abbas wasn't going to sit out once fit so Hassan Ali was the only person to drop.
Pak should have dropped Yasir instead. Dont see him being a threat on this pitch.
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The real problem for Pakistan aside from a hapless batting lineup is the lack of pace in their attack. Abbas doesn't seem fully fit either. But it's almost like Pakistan and India's attack have swapped over. Years gone by you see Pakistan with tear away quicks and India with endless medium pacers. Now it's the other way round.
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Never thought I would be able to say this in my lifetime :) but....sadly the Pak attack lacks the pace unlike the Indian pacers last yr. India lost the series but it was a closely fought one. Cant see that happening with Pak and their medium fast bowling attack.
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Think you're doing them a bit of a disservice. Yasir is a great asset bowling last. Abbas is quality, Amir on his day is quality. They've a pretty decent attack, but it really does give the opposition a fillip when they're only facing a small score to get a lead, and South Africa's batting line up is stronger than people think, even given the players that have gone in the last few years. Du Plessis, De Kock, Elgar and Amla are still brilliant, Markram looks to be a quality player, and the more I see of de Bruyn and Bavuma the more I like. Players like Hendricks and Malan waiting in the wings too.
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I do get what people are saying about the PAK attack compared to old.
However, i really don't think you can over emphasize how demoralizing it must be for a fast bowler to continually see your top order get rolled for nothing, knowing you have nothing to bowl with and perhaps more importantly, that you are going to get no rest between innings.
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I Agree, the batting problem certainly has not helped their bowlers, but there is no doubt that the pace bowlers certainly lack firepower and penetration (apart from maybe Abbas). Also the overturned catch earlier today cant have helped the morale of the bowlers. Just hope the batsmen show a lot more fight in the 2nd innings although defeat is imminent with the current match situation.
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The batsmen are expected to struggle in these conditions but the bowlers should make full use of such pitches. It was expected that Abbas would struggle. He is a bowler who relies on lateral movement, which is why he did really well in English conditions. But in SA and Aus, a bowler needs pace to be effective. Pak should have probably taken someone like Wahab Riaz to SA as he can generate that kind of pace.
Is there noone in the up and coming youngsters in Pak with raw pace?
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It was expected that Abbas would struggle. He is a bowler who relies on lateral movement, which is why he did really well in English conditions. But in SA and Aus, a bowler needs pace to be effective. Pak should have probably taken someone like Wahab Riaz to SA as he can generate that kind of pace.
Mr Philander says otherwise...
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Watched the highlights and can’t believe at one point sarfraz went up to the umpires to moan about the excessive bounce.
This pitch is no way as bad as last years jo’burg one.
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Shan massood is having a decent series.
Looked at sea first time he came into side opening, but at 3 is looking okay, and his temperament for ducking and leaving against Sa is very good.
He’s got a b3 to so forumite.......lol
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Shan massood is having a decent series.
Looked at sea first time he came into side opening, but at 3 is looking okay, and his temperament for ducking and leaving against Sa is very good.
He’s got a b3 to so forumite.......lol
Some serious B3 exposure, which is great for them - Shan is doing the brand proud
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Pitch looks like it’s completely died - but these two are playing well especially shan, looks solid
SA probably wished they had a spinner now.
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Pitch looks like it’s completely died - but these two are playing well especially shan, looks solid
SA probably wished they had a spinner now.
Well I jinxed that one.
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Anyone else that cant stand listening to KP on comms or is it just me?
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Pakistan need to sort out their batting order. Babar needs to bat up the order and Fakhar should be dropped.
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The fans at the ground were robbed today with that farce of an end to the day. Why is there never a common sense rule? 40 to win with plenty of light . Why not finish the game off?
No wonder crowds don’t bother with tests
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The fans at the ground were robbed today with that farce of an end to the day. Why is there never a common sense rule? 40 to win with plenty of light . Why not finish the game off?
No wonder crowds don’t bother with tests
Like most things.. no ‘one’ can actually make a decision like that and even if they did, the potential repercussions make it too risky. Remember, in the modern world no one actually makes decisions that can impact them .
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So South Africa won by 9 wickets. Markham suffered an injury and Amla suffered a fearful blow to his forearm.
Faf du Plessis is banned for the final test after South Africa suffered their second slow over penalty within 12 months
Rather strangely Sarfraz blamed his bowlers for bowling too slowly. Maybe if the batsmen scored decent totals the bowlers would get more into the games...
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Was strange from Sarfraz to emphasize the blame on the bowling rather than the batting, as the batting currently is the main cause for failure. However I do understand where he is coming from, in the sense that the Pak fast bowlers are generally about 10km/h slower then the SA pacers, Amir has the capability to bowl 140km/h but I hardly remember him touching those speeds even in his 1st spell. Shaheen has done well and is still only 18 years, Pak need to really look after him and not over burden him. Bring Hasan back, he's bowled very well in tests over the last 12 months when ever he's had the chance, would also like to seem them fit in Faheem for the next Test. They need to persist with these group of players as the talent is 100% there, they just need a way to translate that into match winning team performances.
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Disagree on the talent being there...most of these players are white ball specialists who just do not have the game for the longer format.
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I know Amir is not exactly in form at the moment, but on the whole I think their attack is pretty decent. Abbas is perpetually dangerous, Yasir is a great bowler. I reckon any attack would struggle given the runs they've had to defend recently. Do they still try and set attacking fields?
They need to unearth a batsman or two, Shan Masood seems to have found a bit of form recently, but they need someone to go big more often. Not easy against Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Olivier on them tracks mind.
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Disagree on the talent being there...most of these players are white ball specialists who just do not have the game for the longer format.
The talent is there. Apart from Fakhar, who else is the white ball specialists in that playing XI? Even with Fakhar I think if given time he can evolve into a suitable opening option in the longer format, much like how Warner did for Aus, It's his 1st time touring South Africa against a world class bowling attack, there have been many a player with better test credentials that have struggled in that part of the world.
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I know Amir is not exactly in form at the moment, but on the whole I think their attack is pretty decent. Abbas is perpetually dangerous, Yasir is a great bowler. I reckon any attack would struggle given the runs they've had to defend recently. Do they still try and set attacking fields?
They need to unearth a batsman or two, Shan Masood seems to have found a bit of form recently, but they need someone to go big more often. Not easy against Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Olivier on them tracks mind.
I agree with you in regards to not having the backing of the batters to put up a reasonable score, as you said most attacks would probably struggle to compete if their batsman had failed like Pak did. But I can also see where Sarfaraz is coming from, its hard to compete against an attack which consists of 3 guys bowling 145KPH when our 'fast' bowlers are bowling noticeably slower. In regards with the batting, the way Barbar has played the last 12 months he has shown he has the ability and appetite to play this form of the game, Haaris was doing a good job also before his injury. As you stated Shan looks like he's worked on his game and his last 3 innings have been very promising. The shame has really been the 3 senior guys Azhar and Sarfaraz have just not been up to the mark since the 'misyou' retirements and Shafiq keeps getting out at the wrong time, which is especially annoying as he has the ability to be in the top 10 in the world. This is not what you want from your 3 most experienced batters, puts so much pressure on the younger/ inexperienced guys. The next game will be the test test match for Pak for a while, it will be interesting if they give Rizwan a go, he had a fantastic season with the 'A' team.
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The biggest issue in the Pak team is sadly the captain of the team. Doesn't merit a place in the XI and weakens an inexperienced middle order. The margin of the defeats would have been embarrassing if not for the cameos played by Babar.
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I know Amir is not exactly in form at the moment, but on the whole I think their attack is pretty decent. Abbas is perpetually dangerous, Yasir is a great bowler. I reckon any attack would struggle given the runs they've had to defend recently. Do they still try and set attacking fields?
They need to unearth a batsman or two, Shan Masood seems to have found a bit of form recently, but they need someone to go big more often. Not easy against Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Olivier on them tracks mind.
When was the last time Amir was in form?
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Yeah,they lost the series. But there is nothing that bad about this series.
We have seen previous teams from sub-continent to come to SA and fail.
For most of them its just their 1st or 2nd tour to SA, this is bound to happen.
They made some mistakes with team selections and some poor batting effort has caused them this dismal show.
Hit or Miss (Overly aggressive)players like Zaman can not play 50 over or a test format with only 1 dimension to their cricketing abilities.
Player in past and present with such an intent and better technique than Zaman like Jayasuria, Razaq, Gilly, Afridi (Players of past), Munro,Butler,Maxwell (Current players), have atleast 2 suites to offer to the team to compensate for here and there failures.
Do not know how fit was Abbas and with such pace he is going to get hit and once teams adopt attacking plan against him.
Sarfarz is complaining about the bowling but they have tried to get Pak in the match multiple times its their batting that needs to be looked at.
No bowling side can restrict an opponent under 150 in the forth innings unless the pitch is offering hell lot of assistance to the bowlers, remember in the first test they have to restrict SA under 150 and under 50 in the second test.
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Dean Elgar will captain the hosts in the absence of du Plessis. Markram struggling with injury could be two debutants
Is Yasir Shah really 'world class'? He's very similar to R Ashwin, unplayable on turning tracks. But both Shah and Ashwin don't use their bodies that much in subcontinent conditions. When they play overseas they have to put extra on to each delivery and are generally ineffective.
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Third test started in Johannesburg this morning, Elgar won the toss and opted to bat. Markram was passed fit so the solitary change was Zubayr Hamza replacing the suspended Faf du Plessis. Hamza is the 100th debutant post re-admission, fitting he's a coloured player.
Three changes for Pakistan Shadab, Ashraf and Hasan replace Fakhar, Yashir and Shaheen. Once again Pakistan changing bowlers when batting is the liability.
South Africa 108-1 Markram 78* making it look easy
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Markram was making it look easy - unlucky to be caught down the leg side or as the Aussie commentators would say, the tactic worked.
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Why was Shaheen dropped? Thought he was their best bowler in the last match. Clearly Pak are expecting this pitch to turn square, picking two spinners.
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Bloody Hell Hasan making me eat my words, he's getting absolutely slaughtered today current figures 12-0-72-0.
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Hasan ali reminds me of Sami, someone who thinks he’s better than he is and happy to over celebrate wickets like a prat.
Heard a lot about this lad hamza, he looks class so far
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Complete contrast in this session with the ball reversing. Amir and Abbas all over the middle order
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Hasan joins the Party too, 2 quick wickets. I wouldn't compare him to Sami. Hasan is a genuine wicket taker (albeit expensive at times) and if you look at his test record over the past 12 months he's done well when ever given the chance- also give adds a little extra spice to the attack.
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Hamza definitely looks like one for the future looked very composed during his innings backing that 1st class record up.
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From 229-3 to 262 all out. That’s quite the collapse. Pakistan have come back well after a disappointing first 2 sessions
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Pakistan struggling, Philander gets a couple. Azhar Ali is so overrated and his lack of runs is further hindering a weak batting line up
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Absolute peach from big vern to get shan
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Philander is an absolute weapon when the ball is moving. Great bowler.
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What's wrong with Azar Ali; is it the confidence or lack of technique.
If you have a walking wicket at no. 3, then your team will always be in a catching up situation in place of dominating it.
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What's wrong with Azar Ali; is it the confidence or lack of technique.
If you have a walking wicket at no. 3, then your team will always be in a catching up situation in place of dominating it.
You could say only two teams have a non walking wicket at 3 currently. The rest are either not upto it or past it
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You could say only two teams have a non walking wicket at 3 currently. The rest are either not upto it or past it
Pujara and Williamson I assume you mean. Would argue Amla is still a quality player and Chandimal is pretty decent too.
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Babar Azam loves Steyn! Feasting on his bowling with plenty of fours here.
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Ali and shafiq are the product of playing too many matches on dead wickets at home. Anything with a bit of pace and bounce and they struggle
Really enjoying Azam vs Steyn - probably the only positive for pak this tour
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SA 4 down - shame the lead is so massive. If only one of the Pakistan batsman went on to get a big one
Feel sorry for hamza - The ball really shouldn’t be going across the carpet on day 2
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Asad Shafiq is a fine player in all conditions. He has twelve Test hundreds, including in England (2), South Africa (2), Australia (1) and New Zealand (2).
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Asad Shafiq is a fine player in all conditions. He has twelve Test hundreds, including in England (2), South Africa (2), Australia (1) and New Zealand (2).
These figures are wrong. Shafiq have 12 hundreds but 9 are in Asia. 1 in England, Australia and South Africa but he averages under 30 outside Asia.
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A long overdue 4th test hundred for de Kock, over 2 years since his last. It's funny with all the hype surrounding India's dashing gloveman Pant, you forget de Kock is still only 26
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A long overdue 4th test hundred for de Kock, over 2 years since his last. It's funny with all the hype surrounding India's dashing gloveman Pant, you forget de Kock is still only 26
Sadly he’s not fulfilling the potential in red ball cricket. Good knock and nice to see him scoring runs
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Hasan joins the Party too, 2 quick wickets. I wouldn't compare him to Sami. Hasan is a genuine wicket taker (albeit expensive at times) and if you look at his test record over the past 12 months he's done well when ever given the chance- also give adds a little extra spice to the attack.
Hasan Ali might be deemed a wicket taker but in a low scoring match bowling 34 overs and going at over 4.5rpo is one of the reasons why Pakistan where never in the match.
Shaheen was far more threatening yet was dropped
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Pakistan made a solid start for once but Steyn and Olivier now getting into them. Azhar Ali bounced out again
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Openers batted well, very well. Played test cricket.. funny how that works.
Ali looks shot and the next two just played whiteball so May come off but will most likely flunk soon enough
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These figures are wrong. Shafiq have 12 hundreds but 9 are in Asia. 1 in England, Australia and South Africa but he averages under 30 outside Asia.
Yes. They are. My error.
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Pakistan sliding towards defeat. 204-7 Olivier got Azam and the hapless Sarfraz. Markram just grabbed a blinder in the gully to end Faheem's resistance
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Oliver has been the standout bowler this series. He’s gone away and put some pace on.
Closest replacement for morkel - Early doors appears to have more luck and more aggression
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Oliver has been the standout bowler this series. He’s gone away and put some pace on.
Closest replacement for morkel - Early doors appears to have more luck and more aggression
His action doesn't look the smoothest but you are right, he does generate lots of bounce which was the main aspect the SA bowling line up was missing now that Morkel has retired.
Not sure if this works outside the UK but Sky have 5 min highlights of each days play here - https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/cricket (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/cricket)
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SA pitches in this series were really bad, it will be too early to assess Oilvier's performance on this basis.
Would like to see how he performs on good tracks or batting friendly wkt.
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de Kock and Steyn rested from opening two ODIs, Markram comes back into contention. "Bone crusher" Olivier set to debut. Hopefully the ODIs are more competitive
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Vd dussen 93 on debut - carrying on his good domestic t20 form.
SA will be disappointed they haven’t got more, they didn’t show much intent at all in the middle overs. Amla might go on to get a 100 but should’ve batted quicker given how many wickets they had in hand.
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Well done, Amla!
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Bet SA wish they had another 30-40 runs. Puts into context how poor amla’s 100 was
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Interesting end. Nice close finish is better than 300 players 260. Pk not finishing strongly so could have gone either way until the e d
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Caught the majority of the South Africa innings and whilst Amla scored a century, not once did he impose his will on the Pakistani slow bowlers. Amla is generally considered one of the greatest players of spin of the modern era. He didn't look to sweep or use his feet. You could see du Plessis wasn't amused. You can remove some blame from the debutant as I doubt he'd have played much against spinners like Shadab and Imad.
I think Pakistan's max capacity is chasing 240-270. Their batting also lacks the dynamic hitters other sides have especially since Zaman has gone off the boil
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^ I think Pak bowlers restricted the scoring and their batsmen took full advantage of the pitch and conditions. Bowling combination/selection was correct for the conditions. Pak team played well and it was a good win. Yes, yes, everyone loves to criticize them but they played well in this ODI. Had they had a little more preparation for the Test matches, they'd have fared better as well.
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266-2 in ODIs- I think SA took Pak batting too lightly- thinking 250 will be good enough for Pak batting line up.
SA approach towards batting was not good enough. All SA batters played too slow as there were no demons in the wicket and there was no threatening blowing for Pak team.
Pak batting has got good reinforcement in S.Malik and Md. Hafeez.
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It was funny listening to Amla's comments after the first innings. He made it sound like the pitch was a tough one. The fact was that he never looked to accelerate and the Pak bowlers bowled really well.
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I was watching some of this game and was very confused about South Africa's innings. The score suggested it must be a tough pitch, but visibly it seemed to be playing fine. It seemed really weird that they would just cruise to a sub-par score with no real effort to accelerate in the middle overs, with all those big hitting batsmen back in the hutch.
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Pakistan batting blown away in the 2nd odi
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Poor effort all round by the batsman. I hope they give Shan a go in this series, his list A stats are rather impressive.
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Typical Pakistan. Its almost as they expect themselves to do something like this.
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Hasan ali trying to save the day single handed.
I see Safraz has pussied out of batting up the order on a spicy deck again.
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112-8 to 200-8. Great counter attack - thought they were down and out earlier but Hasan has taken the game to SA
SA are clueless. 230 might be a decent score on this wicket
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Not 203, Sa will take that all day.
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If Pak can bowl, this might end up being a tricky chase for the proteas. Also awesome knock by Hasan, Kid has gone some eye, he scored a quick-fire 50 against the Kiwis last year as well. I do think Pakistan should use him more often as a hitter especially if a wicket falls with 5 overs to go or something.
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Perfect start for Pak, both openers gone. Couple more here and we could have a game on
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South Africa being South Africa...
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Superb comeback by Pak, first with down the order batting from H.Ali and then good bowling from S.Afridi and S.khan.
But still cannot understand S.Ahmed's decision of playing soo down the order, can not help but think he was trying to protect himself and being selfish here.
Asking S.Malik to bat with lower order batters when you already have Wk-batter, this could have effected S. Malik's mind set.
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Mature knock from VdD . Always in control and looked good in only his second game - something the likes of miller probably could learn
On another day pak may have won this, phel was lucky with the bat but it was his day with the bat and ball
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Did not understand Pak's game plan having SA for 80/5 and removing S.Afridi and S.Khan and introducing Md. Hafeez and H.Ali and others.
Pak should have used them in the middle overs. Pak team let the game slip, it was never a 40 over game for Pak, deeper the SA team bats more chances of them taking it home. At 80/5 it was Pak's game to loose
Very good fightback from HE van der Dussen and AL Phehlukwayo.
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Sarfraz looks to be in serious trouble after appearing to racially abusing Pheklukwayo
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Sarfraz looks to be in serious trouble after appearing to racially abusing Pheklukwayo
Explains why Safraz looked like he was about to cry in the last 10 overs - pretty pathetic that. The game has no room for racism and I hope the ICC act and give him a proper ban
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What did he say that was racist?
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https://twitter.com/iamhassan9/status/1087770859383734272?s=12
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If anything deserves a ban, it would be those comments made by Sarfaraz. It might be a blessing in disguise for the Pak team!
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I can not understand what was the point of those racial remarks by S.Ahmed. And too in Urdu which no one understood.
This should not be accepted in any manner, PCB should ask S.Ahmed for a public apology.
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So from my understanding, I'll paraphrase what he said, ''hey black guy, what did you tell your mother to pray for you today'' I don't see how this is racial abuse. it may be inappropriate but I wouldn't deem that racial abuse, seems a bit over the top. Wonder if Phelukwayo has been told about these comments and what his thoughts were.
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This is why I am against any form of "chirping". Just shut up and play cricket!
In Sarfaraz's case, degrees of offensiveness don't matter. It was a stupid comment! He , and all other cricketers out there, should just shut their traps and play cricket.
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So from my understanding, I'll paraphrase what he said, ''hey black guy, what did you tell your mother to pray for you today'' I don't see how this is racial abuse. it may be inappropriate but I wouldn't deem that racial abuse, seems a bit over the top. Wonder if Phelukwayo has been told about these comments and what his thoughts were.
I'm guessing you missed apartheid?
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So from my understanding, I'll paraphrase what he said, ''hey black guy, what did you tell your mother to pray for you today'' I don't see how this is racial abuse. it may be inappropriate but I wouldn't deem that racial abuse, seems a bit over the top. Wonder if Phelukwayo has been told about these comments and what his thoughts were.
Even if one person finds it offensive it’s offensive. Just shut you gob and play cricket. Too much bloody sledging and verbals and it really does need to simply be canned off as literally no team seems to be able/willing to stop it and not one person or team knows ‘the line’ becuse the line changes depending on each and every person on the field at that point.
It isn’t needed and brings nothing to the game but controversy and people not enjoying their hobby.
He should be banned and harshly because currently players just keep doing these things because there is little genuine threat of punishment (meaningful punish,ent that is)
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Pathetic “apology” from safraz - claiming his remarks weren’t directed at anyone specific. Really does sum him up pretty well, never takes any blame
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I'm guessing you missed apartheid?
Nope I didn't, however I do not see the racial abuse in calling someone black, white or brown, that's just their skin colour, it was a stupid comment and he should be punished accordingly, for the media to proclaim it ''racial abuse'' is ridiculous in my opinion, if he followed it up with a derogatory comment based on the colour of Phel, then, Yes that would be racist. But as people have already pointed out on the thread these guys are getting paid to play cricket and should solely focus on that instead of making stupid remarks/ sledging.
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Today Again S.Ahmed sent I.Wasim and H.Ali ahead of him, is it because he is lacking confidence in himself or trying to give their lesser allrounder a chance to improve their batting.
I can understand sending Wasim a head of him but Ali does not make any sense, he himself need some match time to go in the WC.
And even if he is trying to give some chance to their lesser allrounders then why to drop them the very next match? Is he in the team to keep the wickets only.
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Pakistan scored 317-6 with Imam scoring a leisurely century. Decent biffing by Hafeez and Imad, coupled with an embarrassing fielding effort by the host. 5 drop catches and various other misfields. Steyn looked like he was gonna combust! The pitch seems prett docile
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Today Again S.Ahmed sent I.Wasim and H.Ali ahead of him, is it because he is lacking confidence in himself or trying to give their lesser allrounder a chance to improve their batting.
I can understand sending Wasim a head of him but Ali does not make any sense, he himself need some match time to go in the WC.
And even if he is trying to give some chance to their lesser allrounders then why to drop them the very next match? Is he in the team to keep the wickets only.
I think it is due to power hitting, Sarfraz isn't a powerful hitter like them.
Also, I feel Imam needs to shut his mouth and just play out there.
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Also, I feel Imam needs to shut his mouth and just play out there.
Is he acting up in the field? What did he do?
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I think it is due to power hitting, Sarfraz isn't a powerful hitter like them.
I donot think Pak team needed a power hitter in match 2 at that situation,
I feel they are trying out the allrounder option, but they need to give them some time and matches before dropping them just after 1 match.
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Sarfraz banned by the icc for 4 games.
Cricket has no place for racism - wish ICC had made an example and given him a longer ban.
SA struggling in the middle overs again against spin. Amla and VdD going slow agian
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Sarfraz banned by the icc for 4 games.
Cricket has no place for racism - wish ICC had made an example and given him a longer ban.
Totally agree - and glad to hear that the ICC were brave enough to sanction a non-white player for rascism. I wish some leagues in the UK were so brave as to follow that example!
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Watching these ODI'S (including the India NZ games etc..) I am really looking forward to a home World Cup that I think is going to be great and really close if everyone turns up.
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Sarfraz banned by the icc for 4 games.
Good! What he did was plain effing stupid!
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ODI series is tied 2-2. Pak bowlers bowled well!
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Good come back by Pak team, and good example set by ICC.
PCB should also have asked for public apology inplace of showing disappointment over the decision, cricket boards all over are trying to setup some good examples by banning their players for misconduct and harming the sprint of the game.
For example Warner and Smith were banned by CA, Pandaya and KL Rahul were banned by BCCI for misconduct and inappropriate comments on a TV show.
For many people and young generation these guys are role model and people look upto them and they are representative of their respective nations and players should always keep this in mind, their one bad action may lead to many ill fates.
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SA team is not looking convincing at all in the ODI series proving that most of their wins are the result of favorable pitches and conditions.
Pak team has made a good come back after 1 sided test series. Right now they have 3 player in top 5 to get fastest 1000 runs in ODIs, which is a great for Pak team.
SA bowlers are unable to make such an impact in ODIs as they did in test series and SA batters are not looking in good nick at all.
In match 1, H.Amla played an innings of no substance, in today's day and time an opener getting 100 in last 5 over in ODI is not the norm unless someone else is taking the responsibility of getting quick runs.
I.Haq did the same thing in match 3, the score of 317 was never going to be a par score on such a true pitch, in my opinion SA were cruising through (no matter revised DL total or Not).
If a batter is settled then they should take the responsibility of moving the score at faster rate unless the pitch is really difficult and you have a bowling that can restrict any side under 260.