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Re: SA vs PAK
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2019, 02:54:23 PM »
I do get what people are saying about the PAK attack compared to old.

However, i really don't think you can over emphasize how demoralizing it must be for a fast bowler to continually see your top order get rolled for nothing, knowing you have nothing to bowl with and perhaps more importantly, that you are going to get no rest between innings.
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« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2019, 02:58:57 PM »
I Agree, the batting problem certainly has not helped their bowlers, but there is no doubt that the pace bowlers certainly lack firepower and penetration (apart from maybe Abbas). Also the overturned catch earlier today cant have helped the morale of the bowlers. Just hope the batsmen show a lot more fight in the 2nd innings although defeat is imminent with the current match situation. 
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« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2019, 03:20:46 PM »
The batsmen are expected to struggle in these conditions but the bowlers should make full use of such pitches. It was expected that Abbas would struggle. He is a bowler who relies on lateral movement, which is why he did really well in English conditions. But in SA and Aus, a bowler needs pace to be effective. Pak should have probably taken someone like Wahab Riaz to SA as he can generate that kind of pace.

Is there noone in the up and coming youngsters in Pak with raw pace?
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« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2019, 08:30:28 PM »
Quote from: mo_town on January 04, 2019, 03:20:46 PM
It was expected that Abbas would struggle. He is a bowler who relies on lateral movement, which is why he did really well in English conditions. But in SA and Aus, a bowler needs pace to be effective. Pak should have probably taken someone like Wahab Riaz to SA as he can generate that kind of pace.

Mr Philander says otherwise...
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« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2019, 08:43:43 PM »
Watched the highlights and can’t believe at one point sarfraz went up to the umpires to moan about the excessive bounce.
This pitch is no way as bad as last years jo’burg one.
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« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2019, 11:29:48 AM »
Shan massood is having a decent series.

Looked at sea first time he came into side opening, but at 3 is looking okay, and his temperament for ducking and leaving against Sa is very good.

He’s got a b3 to so forumite.......lol
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Re: SA vs PAK
« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2019, 12:56:13 PM »
Quote from: smilley792 on January 05, 2019, 11:29:48 AM
Shan massood is having a decent series.

Looked at sea first time he came into side opening, but at 3 is looking okay, and his temperament for ducking and leaving against Sa is very good.

He’s got a b3 to so forumite.......lol

Some serious B3 exposure, which is great for them - Shan is doing the brand proud
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Re: SA vs PAK
« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2019, 12:58:30 PM »
Pitch looks like it’s completely died - but these two are playing well especially shan, looks solid

SA probably wished they had a spinner now.
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Re: SA vs PAK
« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2019, 01:01:56 PM »
Quote from: csnew on January 05, 2019, 12:58:30 PM
Pitch looks like it’s completely died - but these two are playing well especially shan, looks solid

SA probably wished they had a spinner now.

Well I jinxed that one.
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Re: SA vs PAK
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2019, 06:03:32 PM »
Anyone else that cant stand listening to KP on comms or is it just me?

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« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2019, 08:14:23 PM »
Pakistan need to sort out their batting order. Babar needs to bat up the order and Fakhar should be dropped.
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« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2019, 12:33:36 AM »
The fans at the ground were robbed today with that farce of an end to the day. Why is there never a common sense rule? 40 to win with plenty of light . Why not finish the game off?

No wonder crowds don’t bother with tests
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Re: SA vs PAK
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2019, 10:02:12 AM »
Quote from: csnew on January 06, 2019, 12:33:36 AM
The fans at the ground were robbed today with that farce of an end to the day. Why is there never a common sense rule? 40 to win with plenty of light . Why not finish the game off?

No wonder crowds don’t bother with tests

Like most things.. no ‘one’ can actually make a decision like that and even if they did, the potential repercussions make it too risky. Remember, in the modern world no one actually makes decisions that can impact them .
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Re: SA vs PAK
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2019, 10:45:54 PM »
So South Africa won by 9 wickets. Markham suffered an injury and Amla suffered a fearful blow to his forearm.

Faf du Plessis is banned for the final test after South Africa suffered their second slow over penalty within 12 months

Rather strangely Sarfraz blamed his bowlers for bowling too slowly. Maybe if the batsmen scored decent totals the bowlers would get more into the games...
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Re: SA vs PAK
« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2019, 09:07:52 AM »
Was strange from Sarfraz to emphasize the blame on the bowling rather than the batting, as the batting currently is the main cause for failure. However I do understand where he is coming from, in the sense that the Pak fast bowlers are generally about 10km/h slower then the SA pacers, Amir has the capability to bowl 140km/h but I hardly remember him touching those speeds even in his 1st spell. Shaheen has done well and is still only 18 years, Pak need to really look after him and not over burden him. Bring Hasan back, he's bowled very well in tests over the last 12 months when ever he's had the chance, would also like to seem them fit in Faheem for the next Test. They need to persist with these group of players as the talent is 100% there, they just need a way to translate that into match winning team performances.
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