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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Yorkershire on March 30, 2019, 09:05:30 PM
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I've promised myself my next bat will be a TK (probably next season now) due the positive remarks on here... although just recent post by in the stickers thread with a screaming cat got me thinking.
Do people rate TK above JM. As JM doesn't make bats now I noticed a recent Facebook post where Laver and Wood were making JM screaming cat shapes... anyone any experience of these?
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Yes they are rare as hens teeth to find now, still rate mine as the best bat I’ve ever used but the handle shape and profile just suited my batting style. Tim also makes a superb bat and both trainer under the same master batmaker I thought?
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I've promised myself my next bat will be a TK (probably next season now) due the positive remarks on here... although just recent post by in the stickers thread with a screaming cat got me thinking.
Do people rate TK above JM. As JM doesn't make bats now I noticed a recent Facebook post where Laver and Wood were making JM screaming cat shapes... anyone any experience of these?
I never used a JM but knew someone who had two made by JM. People who did use the his second JM bat raved about it.
As a batsman, and someone who collects nice bats (for use), I think you need to balance out time/money equation in favor of value of the bat. Even though JM bats are highly sought after, I'd never pursue one simply because it will take too much time (and possibly money) to acquire one. Also, I wouldn't find one suitable or close to my specs.
On the other hand, [edit]TM TK are easy to acquire and pricepoint is very favorable . I have owned and used a lot of bats by different brands and for the value (price, quality, ping consistency), [edit]TMs TKs are fantastic!
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Yes I wouldn't pursue a Millichamp... as @InternalTraining totally agree with you... was more interested if anyone had used a clone made by James Laver...?
Btw @InternalTraining who is TM? Tim Millichamp ? One hell of a bat maker ;)
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Typo, should me TK. :D
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If Laver made JM shape, it wood still be Laver only right. So really you are asking to compare TK and Laver and i guess Tk is a no brainer here..
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I have four Screaming Cats, and I absolutely love them but I am too afraid to use them for some reason even though I have back up.
I feel what makes JM a lot more special is how IT said, they are sought after.
I remember calling JM last year when he was on a canoe, told him that I admire him and his craft, asked him if he had any around his house, sadly non!!
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I have four Screaming Cats, and I absolutely love them but I am too afraid to use them for some reason even though I have back up.
I feel what makes JM a lot more special is how IT said, they are sought after.
I remember calling JM last year when he was on a canoe, told him that I admire him and his craft, asked him if he had any around his house, sadly non!!
I would think,
Using scat cats sounds better than having them, enjoying them,
especially you've got 4 of them
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Can’t take them with you....get use out of them when you still can
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Yes I wouldn't pursue a Millichamp... as @InternalTraining totally agree with you... was more interested if anyone had used a clone made by James Laver...?
I had a Laver in the Millichamp shape, nice enough bat but wasn't that big a fan of the shape, sold it quite recently.
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Can’t take them with you....get use out of them when you still can
You and @AJ2014 are wise blokes, certainly.
"Can't take them with you..."
Needed to hear those words.
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So you gonna use them?
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Does anyone know when JM stopped making the Puma bats?
Who took over before going to Indian makers?
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Not sure when Jules pulled the pin at Puma, maybe late 90’s. Sam Miller (Chase, Masuri) took over arranging production .
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Not sure when Jules pulled the pin at Puma, maybe late 90’s. Sam Miller (Chase, Masuri) took over arranging production .
Does anyone know when JM stopped making the Puma bats?
Who took over before going to Indian makers?
I believe Rob Pack was making them for a while too, then Rob made top end ones while the lower end came from India and then finally all moved elsewhere...
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Sure I have asked this before but given that SC's are pressed clefts that Julien shaped, is there more than a sentimental reason that they are so sought after, way more than say a M&H or Puma made by JM going by eBay/forum Prices?
I thought the general forum consensus was that pressing was the be all and end all regarding bat performance.
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I'm not convinced at all of the hoodoo surrounding Julian's bats.
No doubt he was an absolutely fantastic podshaver, but the mystique and reverence his bats are held in is way beyond what it should be for a carved piece of wood, and totally smacks of people trying to generate a cult status in order to drive prices up.
I understand retiring an old bat that's had it's day for sentimental reasons, but bats are things to be used to hit a 5.5oz leather ball around a field, not held aloft like excalibur. I'm sure Julian would prefer his bats were being used for their intended purpose rather than kept in storage, thats why he made them in the first place.
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Great points there by @Kulli and @jamesisapayne !
The pressed clefts is an interesting point... weren't a well known manufacturer accused of this...
Also as many people always talk about ...'skill is in the pressing'...
Food for thought...
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So you gonna use them?
I surely will!
Open to offers on current bat that I use! :D
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I used a SC extensively and really never found it anything special from a performance perspective. Well made bats for sure, but certainly more hype around the brand than substance in the product from my perspective.
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Sure I have asked this before but given that SC's are pressed clefts that Julien shaped, is there more than a sentimental reason that they are so sought after, way more than say a M&H or Puma made by JM going by eBay/forum Prices?
I thought the general forum consensus was that pressing was the be all and end all regarding bat performance.
So 2 bits contribute, one is the fact that he had a signature shape and handle - a shape which is very different to most modern era bats. Secondly, he's retired so it's the fact you can't get hold of them anymore. That rarity makes them desirable.
I was back on the old Cricket Supplies forum when Screaming Cat launched in 05/06 (have I really spent the last 13 years of my life talking about cricket bats?), there wasn't a huge amount of interest and were regarded in a similar vein to the likes of Laver & Wood.
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So 2 bits contribute, one is the fact that he had a signature shape and handle - a shape which is very different to most modern era bats. Secondly, he's retired so it's the fact you can't get hold of them anymore. That rarity makes them desirable.
I was back on the old Cricket Supplies forum when Screaming Cat launched in 05/06 (have I really spent the last 13 years of my life talking about cricket bats?), there wasn't a huge amount of interest and were regarded in a similar vain to the likes of Laver & Wood.
Do you think there's a reason that you can pick up JM made M&H's or Puma's second hand for far less than a SC would be sold for, just the exclusivity? maybe also that it's less easy to see/know that they are JM made.
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Do you think there's a reason that you can pick up JM made M&H's or Puma's second hand for far less than a SC would be sold for, just the exclusivity?
So there's a much bigger risk with buying an M&H and, in particular, Puma that it wasn't him that shaped it. He wasn't the only batmaker at either of these companies and from what I'm aware, played much more of an overseeing role at Puma. They're also older bats so size and shape wise not quite impressive to look at as his later work.