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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: WABH-J on June 22, 2019, 06:47:19 AM

Title: Double Pressed?
Post by: WABH-J on June 22, 2019, 06:47:19 AM
Watching one of the Keeley videos someone mentioned he ‘double presses’ his bats. Please could someone explain what the advantage of this is, and if it provides a marked advantage why more people don’t do it?
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 22, 2019, 07:00:28 AM
Watching one of the Keeley videos someone mentioned he ‘double presses’ his bats. Please could someone explain what the advantage of this is, and if it provides a marked advantage why more people don’t do it?

It's all bull.... Doesn't actually mean anything mate
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on June 22, 2019, 08:38:58 AM
It's all bull.... Doesn't actually mean anything mate

Agree it’s just marketing BS, any decent bat maker will press each bat individually this could be once through the press or multiple times. It’s the same as this G1+ pro grade etc nonsense just a term to charge a premium price for a brands top end bats
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: Seniorplayer on June 22, 2019, 12:53:51 PM
Not long ago had   a GN which had had the bat face and the middle of the back pressed it enabled you  to play the reverse sweep without changing your grip IE double pressed.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: InternalTraining on June 22, 2019, 01:54:30 PM
I actually heard someone say this to me about a Keeley and I realized then that the marketing hype was getting out of control.

People are paying big bucks for these bats which is another shocker.

Sheesh.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: WABH-J on June 22, 2019, 06:05:40 PM
It's all bull.... Doesn't actually mean anything mate

So just to clarify - the point of pressing is to increase the density of the wood - and each piece of wood will require different amounts of pressing? Is that correct?
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: Yorkershire on June 22, 2019, 06:42:40 PM
Unsure of benefits but GM bats go through 2 different presses..
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 22, 2019, 08:48:51 PM
So just to clarify - the point of pressing is to increase the density of the wood - and each piece of wood will require different amounts of pressing? Is that correct?

Correct. Each piece of timber needs more pressure applied to the bat or more/less runs through the press in order to acheieve optimal performance. There is only 1 type of pressing. To say a bat is double pressed might refer to the bat being pressed pre and post handling, but that still has FA affect on the outcome. It has either been pressed well or not.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: edge on June 23, 2019, 02:56:27 PM
The amount of bats TK makes I wouldn't be surprised if his process is to press everything to a generic pressure then go back and repress to the optimum performance, just to optimise the time spent per bat.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: Seniorplayer on June 23, 2019, 03:12:30 PM
All company's have there own pressing methods but pre and post  handle  pressing does happen ive seen it.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: WABH-J on June 23, 2019, 05:00:59 PM
Is the pressure used in the press variable or consistent then?
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: Seniorplayer on June 23, 2019, 08:15:54 PM
The press is set prior to the bat being passed through and if needed  the pressure adjusted by the batmaker accordingly.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: Jaffa on June 23, 2019, 08:31:42 PM
Wasn't there story that the higher spec Newbery bats (when TK was still there) would go through a special secretive pressing process which turned out the were triple pressed?

Was it IJC that mentioned it or did I imagine it?
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on June 23, 2019, 09:14:20 PM
Wasn't there story that the higher spec Newbery bats (when TK was still there) would go through a special secretive pressing process which turned out the were triple pressed?

Was it IJC that mentioned it or did I imagine it?

Wasn't it the Kudos 2 that had this secret pressing method?
I'm sure I remember something like that (or we imagined the same thing!)
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: WABH-J on June 23, 2019, 09:19:24 PM
Does over pressing have any negative effects?
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: Cholrudee on June 23, 2019, 11:07:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vEdjgto.jpg)

Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: JTtaylor145 on June 24, 2019, 06:20:50 AM
Unsure of benefits but GM bats go through 2 different presses..
I think the Keeley's have two different types of presses (same as GM).
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: Seniorplayer on June 24, 2019, 08:02:45 AM
Wasn't it the Kudos 2 that had this secret pressing method?
I'm sure I remember something like that (or we imagined the same thing!)
It was the Kudos 2 and they  pinged.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: edge on June 24, 2019, 08:34:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vEdjgto.jpg)
Trololol, the nonsense in there. Questioning that gets you very quickly blocked by Newbery on twitter! Also, the Legacy bats are Aldred iirc, certainly were at launch.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: Seniorplayer on June 24, 2019, 11:40:40 AM
As there's a differencei I think it would be more realistic to  say lighter pressing rather than softer.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 24, 2019, 12:18:58 PM
As there's a differencei I think it would be more realistic to  say lighter pressing rather than softer.

I don't, cause essentially you are going for under pressed, over pressed, or just right. Bloody stupid option to have on a bat really.
Title: Re: Double Pressed?
Post by: WABH-J on June 24, 2019, 01:38:58 PM
Sounds a bit Goldilocks...