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Equipment => Helmets => Topic started by: sachin200 on August 11, 2019, 06:41:08 PM
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Hi,
I wonder if there is a list of manufacturers that have complied with the new standards. I know Masuri, Shrey, GN, ayrtek, Forma have mentioned that they have complied but there are new manufacturers like Moonwalker etc who don’t have any information on their websites whereas some pros are wearing them already.
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https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/helmets (https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/helmets)
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What happened to Albion? Why are they not on this list?
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They withdrew from the market when their helmets weren’t upto the latest standard and required a redesign
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That's disappointing. I have been using their top of the range helmet and love the fit . This means that I need to buy a new compliant one.
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According to the list, a number of the manufacturers haven't tested their junior lids against senior balls. Isn't this a bit of a problem? Our Senior sides often have Junior players, as do many of our oppos. Shouldn't the kids be sure their helmet meets regs against the heavier ball?
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Disclaimer - this post is purely my opinion and contains no facts whatsoever!
@JK Lewis I think the cost of testing may be a deterrent when it comes to testing junior lids against senior balls.
However, I think it could be assumed the junior lids are safe to use against adult balls as the junior ones are smaller, meaning the gap will be smaller. As long as the junior lids are structurally sound (they should be having passed the junior test) an adult ball won't be able to get through.
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Disclaimer - this post is purely my opinion and contains no facts whatsoever!
@JK Lewis I think the cost of testing may be a deterrent when it comes to testing junior lids against senior balls.
However, I think it could be assumed the junior lids are safe to use against adult balls as the junior ones are smaller, meaning the gap will be smaller. As long as the junior lids are structurally sound (they should be having passed the junior test) an adult ball won't be able to get through.
You have to consider the weight as well mate. Imagine crashing into a pigeon at 80mph, and crashing into a cat at 80mph (i have done both and the results a very nasty and expensive)
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You have to consider the weight as well mate. Imagine crashing into a pigeon at 80mph, and crashing into a cat at 80mph (i have done both and the results a very nasty and expensive)
Yes, that's what I was thinking too. A senior player with a hard 5 1/2oz ball is very different to a junior with a 4 3/4.
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According to the list, a number of the manufacturers haven't tested their junior lids against senior balls. Isn't this a bit of a problem? Our Senior sides often have Junior players, as do many of our oppos. Shouldn't the kids be sure their helmet meets regs against the heavier ball?
The standard is clearly marked on the packaging and also the helmet itself, so a junior (parent) should be well aware of what they are buying well before parting with their money. If they want to ensure their child has a helmet that passes against junior and senior balls then they can.
A similar problem arises for women’s cricket as there isn’t even a safety standard for a women’s ball.
That’s the retailer in me talking :)
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That's disappointing. I have been using their top of the range helmet and love the fit . This means that I need to buy a new compliant one.
They’ve been off the scene for 4+ years now. If it was that much of a concern you’d surely have addressed it by now?
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The standard is clearly marked on the packaging and also the helmet itself, so a junior (parent) should be well aware of what they are buying well before parting with their money. If they want to ensure their child has a helmet that passes against junior and senior balls then they can.
A similar problem arises for women’s cricket as there isn’t even a safety standard for a women’s ball.
That’s the retailer in me talking :)
Yeah, and that's fair enough, parents have to be responsible. I appreciate it is really a cost issue for the testing, tough for manufacturers.
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My PremierTek Youth and Senior helmets are the same model yet the youth has thicker foams making the interior size smaller. Due to this I can’t claim they pass both standards as a result due to the head form size being different when carrying out testing...yet the grille and shell are the same and have passed the 4.75 and 5.5oz tests for drop and penetration testing.
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Forma Pro SRS is a nice fitting lid at a reasonable price point.
(https://i.imgur.com/dKaBoU2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5OZVGk8.jpg)
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Forma Pro SRS is a nice fitting lid at a reasonable price point.
(https://i.imgur.com/dKaBoU2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5OZVGk8.jpg)
Yeah but it isn't on the list of lids that meet the standards, so maybe best avoided.
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Forma Pro SRS Mild Steel Small/Medium
https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/helmets (https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/helmets)
(https://i.imgur.com/qhUpceT.jpg)
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Yeah but it isn't on the list of lids that meet the standards, so maybe best avoided.
Out of interest. Did you look or believe you knew? Or just presume it wasn’t as you’d never heard of it?
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Easy mistake to make given it's listed under
MRP Protech rather than Forma, I did the same to be honest.
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Forma Pro SRS Mild Steel Small/Medium
https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/helmets (https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/helmets)
(https://i.imgur.com/qhUpceT.jpg)
Humble apologies, I looked for Forma as the manufacturer. Should have taken more care. Sorry.
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Out of interest. Did you look or believe you knew? Or just presume it wasn’t as you’d never heard of it?
I hadn't heard of it, but I looked and misunderstood the naming. My bad, but thanks for calling me out anyway. As you see, I'm big enough to hold my hands up.
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I hadn't heard of it, but I looked and misunderstood the naming. My bad, but thanks for calling me out anyway. As you see, I'm big enough to hold my hands up.
Was a genuine question.
I saw his post. Thought “not heard of that is it complaint”
Checked the list. Say the 20 odd formas together(to me Manufacturers name doesn’t stand out. Big bunch of similar names helmet did).
Came back and saw your reply saying it wasn’t complaint and was trying to understand how you got there. Thought you might hve a different list.
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Easy mistake to make given it's listed under MRP Protech rather than Forma, I did the same to be honest.
Forma is owned by Protech, the big Indian helmet company. They also make a lot of biking helmets for Indian market. I also know for sure that a lot of well known brands get their helmets made by Forma even today. Forma branch of Protech has investments from Kiran More (former Indian wicketkeeper) and the looks of their initial offerings were designed by Sachin Tendulkar till he was playing. Sachin used Albion till 1996-97 and then switched to Forma that he used till his retirement.