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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: Buzz on February 08, 2020, 04:42:15 PM
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A few people has asked what unweighting/deweighting the bat is
A picture speaks 1000 words...
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Just for good measure, here is a nice ones of how to hold the bat
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Here are a few more pics of decent players playing classical shots, look at how their back foot has started lined up to point to provide balance through the shot
(https://i.postimg.cc/76WPy9tz/1534849197191-lc-gallery-Image-England-s-Ollie-Pope-bats.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/W1G4JMtR/sachin-tendulkar-cover-drive-stance.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9fcQPrqD/Virat-Kohli-and-Babar-Azam-781x441.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MZgc3bCj/IMG-20200214-101316.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6M4rY4s)
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@Buzz haha “decent” players! Wait until all the VK fans come after you lol
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Here are a few more pics of decent players playing classical shots, look at how their back foot has started lined up to point to provide balance through the shot
(https://i.postimg.cc/76WPy9tz/1534849197191-lc-gallery-Image-England-s-Ollie-Pope-bats.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9MMXSKbV/ccsfbnqjhlvmbngsbttg.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmXH0bW3/fd835173417eb6fa38ecaa094a63f8ff.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1G4JMtR/sachin-tendulkar-cover-drive-stance.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9fcQPrqD/Virat-Kohli-and-Babar-Azam-781x441.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
OK so: Buttler in particular has quite an unorthodox technique, and plays very inside out. He's not an example of orthodox batting technique.
In other photos, eg Tendulkar, Kohli, the toe appears to be pointing into the ground, rather than towards point as you claim. These are all cover drives as well, straighter shots will require a straighter alignment of the feet.
No two batsmen are identical, and sure, some unorthodox batsmen like Buttler might play through the covers with their toe splayed out towards point. There is nothing wrong with that. But most don't. Its definitely not necessary.
For square drives/cover drives, batsmen are more likely to have more side-ways aligned feet, but this doesn't generalise to all front foot shots.
So in summary, this is not evidence that it is necessary to have the back toe pointing towards point to "provide balance through the shot". I've no idea where you've got that idea from, its perfectly possible to remain balance with front aligned feet, in fact this is how the majority of batsmen play.
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The will see Virat playing a glorious off drive in the last photo next to Babar Azam...
Oh and Jos Buttler isn't in any of the pictures
P. S. Started lined up with point 😉
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OK so: Buttler in particular has quite an unorthodox technique, and plays very inside out. He's not an example of orthodox batting technique.
Lolz, that's Ian Bell. He's fairly orthodox I'd say!
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Re: "Unweighting", what's the correct sequence?
My issue with this is maintaining balance or head position. Pros have a sequence where they step foward and unweight simultaneously; where as un-pro me, unweights and then swivels like a tank turret to move towards the ball.
I have to check my videos to confirm my bad behavior. :D
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Phil, I saw your tweet about unweighting tonight and knew there’d be a thread somewhere.
For those of us (me) who learn by words rather than pictures, what am I looking at?! All of the players have the bat pointed to the sky... what am I missing?
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Getting the bat above your wrists like that deweights the bat allowing a flow of the bat through the ball.
Especially when combined with playing the ball under your eyes.
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Getting the bat above your wrists like that deweights the bat allowing a flow of the bat through the ball.
Especially when combined with playing the ball under your eyes.
@Buzz whats the reason most of us don’t do this well? Bats too heavy relative to our strength?
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@Buzz whats the reason most of us don’t do this well? Bats too heavy relative to our strength?
Technique, same as anything. Practice it and you can do it.
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Getting the bat above your wrists like that deweights the bat allowing a flow of the bat through the ball.
Especially when combined with playing the ball under your eyes.
@Buzz I'm still unclear. I agree it might be "allowing a flow of the bat through the ball" for vertical bat shots, but I'm just not a fan of the terminology "deweighting". The weight of the bat doesn't change, it's inertia doesn't change, it's centre of gravity doesn't change, so why 'deweighting' or 'unweighting'?
Is 'deweighting' part of the initial batting stance, or is it a new terminology for backswing? If the former, It certainly seems very popular among English batters, and the English Women's team in particular all seem to bat this way.
My biggest problem with this is the simple fact that if your stance has the toe of the bat up around your ears, you have to start playing your shot earlier than you would if you started with that bat at 90 degrees from vertical.
Could you not also 'allow a flow of the bat through the ball' by having the bat 90 degrees from vertical but directly behind you instead of pointing to slips?
If I see anyone batting with the toe of the bat behind their ears I can't help but think that a combination of fast yorkers and slower balls will soon sort them out.
Perhaps I'm just a traditional old fart who needs the 1000 words :) Where would I find them, as believe it of not, I am open to change for the better.
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@Buzz whats the reason most of us don’t do this well? Bats too heavy relative to our strength?
Players aren't good at hinging their wrists.
@Chompy9760 I will come back to you on this.
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I had a go at this at nets this morning. Quite liked it. Although it reminds me of JB.
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Players aren't good at hinging their wrists.
@Chompy9760 I will come back to you on this.
@Chompy9760 I did a video...
https://youtu.be/EqxIUIWqD8I
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Yes, makes sense. The issue with holding it at 90 degrees is that you have to exert a lot of torque to keep the bat balanced there because of gravity acting through the centre of mass. Holding the bat more upright means you need to apply less torque and most of the force is used to just support the bat's weight, which doesn't change of course. Think about trying to hold up a plank (an actual plank, not just a poor bat choice) from one end as compared to Balancing it at the middle. It takes a lot more force. So I suppose we are less likely to do a good wrist cock and back swing if we start the shot from 90 degrees.
First person I remember doing this in international cricket was Mike Brearley the England captain. It looked really weird at the time. He anyone got pics of his stance? I couldn't find any on the Internet. I do remember that he didn't look very relaxed and was quite upright.
How about the content on yorkers? Is it harder to get the bat down quickly onto a good yorker from the deweighted stance?
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Bradman did it too.
Not going to worry about yorkers most don't face bowling fast enough to be an issue.
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To be fair, I never got to see Bradman. But my dad did. He (Bradman) got a double century at Chalkwell Park in Essex. Not a 1st class venue any more though sadly.
Anyone got pictures of Mike Brearley stance?
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Ok, thanks very much for the clarification Buzz and Psi.
So on your video it's not so much the initial stance where you're holding the bat upright, but more a triggered high backlift - much like BC Lara?
I have a "Cricket's greatest" DVD, and remember Graham Gooch said he changed to a similar method part way through his career, and got very good results from it - might have been around the same time as Brearly?
It's obviously a method that's been around for a long time. The 'how' and 'why' it makes a difference is what intrigues me.
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Not going to worry about yorkers most don't face bowling fast enough to be an issue.
Well, that may be the case for those of you who have good reflexes :D
But in all seriousness, if your stance has a vertical bat vs horizontal, in order to get the bat to the ball at the same time, you must either A) swing harder, or B) swing earlier.
That goes for every shot from every bowler, not just yorkers.
With my reflexes, I'd love a bit of extra time to play a shot, but obviously there are enough positives that outweigh my concerns, with so many people using the technique and having success.
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Ok, thanks very much for the clarification Buzz and Psi.
So on your video it's not so much the initial stance where you're holding the bat upright, but more a triggered high backlift - much like BC Lara?
I have a "Cricket's greatest" DVD, and remember Graham Gooch said he changed to a similar method part way through his career, and got very good results from it - might have been around the same time as Brearly?
It's obviously a method that's been around for a long time. The 'how' and 'why' it makes a difference is what intrigues me.
I wouldn’t call it a triggered backlift. You still need a little rhythm and swing to hit the ball (look at bairstow - he holds it high but just as ball is released he does a little down-up with his bat). If you hold the bat vertically before you know what shot you’re playing, you’ll probably struggle. Guys who do it best (Lara), see the ball, get into position to play the shot and then play the shot ... the unweighting / cocking of wrists happens during the getting into position step.
So I don’t think anything is different in your setup - it’s just the peak of your backswing that should look different now. For Yorkers etc, I reckon your instincts will kick in and you won’t actually go that far vertical (as long as you’re watching the ball).
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Guys who practice against bowling machines, do a high back lift instinctively. Not sure if it is timed as discussed here.
I changed from a high back lift to a low (bail level) back lift and it helped with my timing and balance. I'll have to test out the unweighting in my next nets.
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Look up baseball hitting technique. Load, extension, finish.
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^ Yup, looks like you unweight and plant your foot at the same time for it to work, like a baseball swing.
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This “de-weighting” or high back lift is how I have batted for a long time now. I copied the way YJB used to bat when he first came in the scene which was very still with the toe of the bat pointing straight up and no trigger movement. I tried this after a shocking season of 10 games and 9 dismissals to LBW.
A coach I had at the time got me to try it as a way of removing to many moving parts, ie trigger movement, bat moving from tapping to mid/ bail height then very high and then I played a shot. Maybe that doesn’t make sense when typing but I had so much doing on and in my head that I wasn’t concentrating on the bowler or ball as much as I should.
All I will say is it took me a whole winter of netting 2/3 times a week for it to become natural but it’s certainly helped me. I had never thought about the science of taking the weight out of the bat in this stance as that’s just to complex for a simple guy like me. It has however really helped my batting overall with this stance.
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From my understanding deweighting and a high back lift don’t have to be mutually inclusive.
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This “de-weighting” or high back lift is how I have batted for a long time now. I copied the way YJB used to bat when he first came in the scene which was very still with the toe of the bat pointing straight up and no trigger movement. I tried this after a shocking season of 10 games and 9 dismissals to LBW.
A coach I had at the time got me to try it as a way of removing to many moving parts, ie trigger movement, bat moving from tapping to mid/ bail height then very high and then I played a shot. Maybe that doesn’t make sense when typing but I had so much doing on and in my head that I wasn’t concentrating on the bowler or ball as much as I should.
All I will say is it took me a whole winter of netting 2/3 times a week for it to become natural but it’s certainly helped me. I had never thought about the science of taking the weight out of the bat in this stance as that’s just to complex for a simple guy like me. It has however really helped my batting overall with this stance.
i had the exact same problem, and the same solution has worked wonders for me, iv ditched the trigger, stand tall and still, bat pointing up, have so much more time to play the ball, no more lbw’s, scored alot of runs last year with this technique
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Am I not getting this, or is there significant confusion going on between standing with your bat pointing up in the air in your stance (say Eoin Morgan) and deweighting during the backlift part of a shot? I thought the two were different things.
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Had a look at some old footage. I couldn't really see that Don Bradman was deweighting, unless you mean he just builds in a wrist cock into his back swing. The only other player I found was Derek Randall in the 1970s, see e.g. https://youtu.be/L-6CXbP7Z2w
first dismissal, but it's a bad shot that gets an edge. Mike Brearley does it for some shots but on others he swings the bat back down again below horizontal before his backswing.
Perhaps most interestingly, if you go back to really early footage, pre 1920s, then most batsmen do seem to deweight, or at least they take an upright stance with the bat held above horizontal.
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Here's some really early 1905 film. https://youtu.be/ChrFcjLJymU
All the batsmen shown get their bat up really high before the shot, although it's more about arms than wrists. Look at the final pull shot in the sequence though. That looks like deweighting to me?
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Had a look at some old footage. I couldn't really see that Don Bradman was deweighting, unless you mean he just builds in a wrist cock into his back swing. The only other player I found was Derek Randall in the 1970s, see e.g. https://youtu.be/L-6CXbP7Z2w
first dismissal, but it's a bad shot that gets an edge. Mike Brearley does it for some shots but on others he swings the bat back down again below horizontal before his backswing.
Perhaps most interestingly, if you go back to really early footage, pre 1920s, then most batsmen do seem to deweight, or at least they take an upright stance with the bat held above horizontal.
Bradman did.. it refers to the wrist cock in the backswing, not the starting position. I think key is not how high the bat is held in setup, but how vertical it gets during the backswing.
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I was interested in this but @Buzz pointed out to me I already do this. Haha
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This discussion has gone to hell with one conjecture after another...
This coach explains how to unweight the bat correctly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1vXIb0jVeY&feature=youtu.be&t=359 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1vXIb0jVeY&feature=youtu.be&t=359)
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Yes probably but the coaching video makes prefect sense. Looking at some more Bradman slowmo footage, I can see that he did do it.
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This discussion has gone to hell with one conjecture after another...
This coach explains how to unweight the bat correctly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1vXIb0jVeY&feature=youtu.be&t=359 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1vXIb0jVeY&feature=youtu.be&t=359)
As I have said previously, Gio is a brilliant coach and I can't recommend his coaching and YouTube channel high enough.
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As I have said previously, Gio is a brilliant coach and I can't recommend his coaching and YouTube channel high enough.
Seconded. Done some work with him over the winter (remotely) and he’s turned me from the disaster I was last season into someone that can bat again.
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Sorry to hijack a thread...
Can you tell me more about Gio - my club are interested in working with him also remotely in the build up to the season. Could you give me some more information on how it worked etc. Private message is fine instead of clogging up the thread :)
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As I have said previously, Gio is a brilliant coach and I can't recommend his coaching and YouTube channel high enough.
Very good content ...I just wish he had more videos available.
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This on Dan Lawrence, sad that the coach in question isn't named...
Technical tweaks the trigger for Lawrence's stellar Lions form http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28836089/technical-tweaks-trigger-dan-lawrence-stellar-england-lions-form (http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28836089/technical-tweaks-trigger-dan-lawrence-stellar-england-lions-form) via ESPNCricinfo app http://es.pn/ciapp (http://es.pn/ciapp)
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Stay still and watch the ball. They make it sound so simple 😅
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This on Dan Lawrence, sad that the coach in question isn't named...
Technical tweaks the trigger for Lawrence's stellar Lions form [url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28836089/technical-tweaks-trigger-dan-lawrence-stellar-england-lions-form[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28836089/technical-tweaks-trigger-dan-lawrence-stellar-england-lions-form[/url]) via ESPNCricinfo app [url]http://es.pn/ciapp[/url] ([url]http://es.pn/ciapp[/url])
Would be nice to get something like this on Marnus Labuschagne. What did his county coach change? How did Marnus became Marnus that we know today? Haircut - resulting in few oz lighter stride? What?!!!
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Another century by Labuschagne!
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Unweighting seems like an interesting concept, and it's something I'm going to try out to see if I can get some good results with it however it doesn't seem fully clear as to what it actually is. Labuschange seems to be given as an example, but his batting is very different to the way that the cricket academy bloke shows...
As for his video where he analyses Australia's and England's batting averages in tests compared to ODI's, and somehow suggests it's due to England not "deweighting" enough, that seems like an incredibly stretched logic that I don't get. After all he constantly bangs on about improved bat speed which is surely more of an advantage in ODI's, where England have really excelled?
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Would be nice to get something like this on Marnus Labuschagne. What did his county coach change? How did Marnus became Marnus that we know today? Haircut - resulting in few oz lighter stride? What?!!!
Interesting question about Labushagne. I've had a look through some old footage and noticed some key differences in his technique. I've taken these images from a 2016 game between QLD vs SA. A few things to note about his 'old' technique; his trigger movement and his backlift. His trigger movement was causing his front foot to land in front on his back leg, this was cutting off his leg-side scoring options and probably got him in trouble with LBW. His backlift was also a lot lower than it is now, he would only unweight his bat around the time the ball pitched. This was especially the case against spin where he would keep his bat grounded almost to the point of the ball being released.
Before
Example 1 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3C5gZ31/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-22-46.png)(https://i.postimg.cc/FFkWmTWd/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-23-02.png)
Example 2 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/bv6CYWfb/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-24-11.png)(https://i.postimg.cc/63yH8cBP/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-24-27.png)
Example 3 (Spin) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger (Not really a 'trigger' per se)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qd3nfcqB/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-19-13.png)(https://i.postimg.cc/zG80C8JK/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-20-08.png)
After
Now let's compare this against footage of his breakout Aussie summer. He completely opened up his stance and increased his backlift.
Example 1 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKkfq62f/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-26-14.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/4NzWHmTX/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-26-35.png)
Example 2 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/bdcDxykn/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-52-36.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/yxRvPNgX/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-28-30.png)
Example 3 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRzYY22q/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-46-23.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/HWfBZbtw/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-46-43.png)
Example 4 (Spin)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dw655HZD/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-29-35.png)
The main takeaway is these two images, quite the difference!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wtc4C59q/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-19-06-11.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/BbK6mrCG/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-19-06-00.png)
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Top homework @richyreed.
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Interesting question about Labushagne. I've had a look through some old footage and noticed some key differences in his technique. I've taken these images from a 2016 game between QLD vs SA. A few things to note about his 'old' technique; his trigger movement and his backlift. His trigger movement was causing his front foot to land in front on his back leg, this was cutting off his leg-side scoring options and probably got him in trouble with LBW. His backlift was also a lot lower than it is now, he would only unweight his bat around the time the ball pitched. This was especially the case against spin where he would keep his bat grounded almost to the point of the ball being released.
Before
Example 1 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3C5gZ31/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-22-46.png)(https://i.postimg.cc/FFkWmTWd/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-23-02.png)
Example 2 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/bv6CYWfb/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-24-11.png)(https://i.postimg.cc/63yH8cBP/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-24-27.png)
Example 3 (Spin) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger (Not really a 'trigger' per se)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qd3nfcqB/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-19-13.png)(https://i.postimg.cc/zG80C8JK/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-20-08.png)
After
Now let's compare this against footage of his breakout Aussie summer. He completely opened up his stance and increased his backlift.
Example 1 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKkfq62f/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-26-14.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/4NzWHmTX/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-26-35.png)
Example 2 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/bdcDxykn/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-52-36.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/yxRvPNgX/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-28-30.png)
Example 3 (Pace) - Pre-trigger / Post-trigger
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRzYY22q/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-46-23.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/HWfBZbtw/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-46-43.png)
Example 4 (Spin)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dw655HZD/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-18-29-35.png)
The main takeaway is these two images, quite the difference!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wtc4C59q/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-19-06-11.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/BbK6mrCG/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-19-06-00.png)
Superb analysis- how did you find the replays? On a website ?
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@brokenbat Thanks! :) The images were just taken as screenshots from YouTube.
The older images were from this game - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7c3JLqq1ts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7c3JLqq1ts) Marnus got a match winning 50 in this game.
The newer images were taken from this compilation video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4jGScXZLww (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4jGScXZLww)
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Dear @richyreed , Great work! If I ever get a puppy, I'll name him "RichyReed". :D
Now, onwards to the analysis...
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The main takeaway is these two images, quite the difference!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wtc4C59q/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-19-06-11.png) (https://i.postimg.cc/BbK6mrCG/Screenshot-2020-03-07-at-19-06-00.png)
1. His head is actually lower than he used to be. He is almost crouching to get low in his stance.
2. Head or eye-line is horizontal or parallel to the ground.
3. His stance is more than balanced...he is almost in a "power" stance to strike the ball like a baseball swing but more open.
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Is it just me or Finch has also changed his prep/stance as well...stands like Labuschagne now.
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Seems a lot of the aussies are adopting Steve smiths stance which is along the line of the Gary Palmer school of thought
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Look at Alex Hales' stance here. I think he's been batting from that stance for a while now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8I3pasHyY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8I3pasHyY)
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hes been batting so good hales
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The Steve Smith revolution :D
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^ Thank god for that!
It is simple: do with what works!
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hes been batting so good hales
It is amazing how cleanly he is hitting the ball!
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@richyreed - great work.
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ABD and Williamson do a version of this as well.
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Had my first try of deweighting at nets last night. Definitely felt a big improvement in how hard I was hitting the ball! Sadly towards the end I hit one a little too well and smashed a window at the sports hall we were netting at! :o
Apart from a potential £4k bill looming over my head(waiting for club treasurer to get back to me about the club's insurance) it felt very good although still need a bit more practice with it for the more defensive shots.
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£4k for a window? :o
You sure someone isn't on the fiddle and getting double glazing fitted in their house, too?
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£4k for a window? :o
You sure someone isn't on the fiddle and getting double glazing fitted in their house, too?
I did think that seemed high but it is very big, apparently it weighs somewhere round a ton and needs a team of 5 to fit.
Apart from that though, I'm definitely a fan of deweighting from what I've tried so far!
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Surely you're not liable for that? Assuming you weren't batting without the nets in place or something daft.
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The sports hall should be covered for that by their own insurance. They are renting it to you and unless your club has signed a liability contract I would be paying them a penny.
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Surely you're not liable for that? Assuming you weren't batting without the nets in place or something daft.
Nets were in place but they don't go all the way to the ceiling so the windows at the top are exposed if you manage to hit the ball as cleanly as I hit that one. I know it's happened there before so they definitely need to review the nets they have in order to stop it happening again. The fact that the caretaker knew the rough price shows it's happened atleast once before.
I personally thought it would be the hall's insurance that would cover it but they say it is up to either me, or the club's insurance(if they do cover this) to pay.
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Nets were in place but they don't go all the way to the ceiling so the windows at the top are exposed if you manage to hit the ball as cleanly as I hit that one. I know it's happened there before so they definitely need to review the nets they have in order to stop it happening again. The fact that the caretaker knew the rough price shows it's happened atleast once before.
I personally thought it would be the hall's insurance that would cover it but they say it is up to either me, or the club's insurance(if they do cover this) to pay.
Sounds like they're trying to avoid another claim having not improved facilities to me, I'm sure their insurance company would have reviewed that if a few of the same claim has been made
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Do not pay them a penny. If the facilties aren't fit for purpose they should not be operating atall!
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Had my first try of deweighting at nets last night. Definitely felt a big improvement in how hard I was hitting the ball! Sadly towards the end I hit one a little too well and smashed a window at the sports hall we were netting at! :o
Very cool!
Did you face deliveries swinging away? How did the stance fare against those?
Were you able to hit between cover and point region?
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4k bill ouch. Hope you dont have to pay out of your pocket.
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I can't believe that any sports centre would have terms of use that would allow them to charge for accidental damage caused by reasonable use.
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Very cool!
Did you face deliveries swinging away? How did the stance fare against those?
Were you able to hit between cover and point region?
Didn't face many pitched up outswingers so hard to say, but certainly I had a lot of fun hitting anything short or wide through cover/point. I found I was able to set myself up nicely to rock onto the back foot and really throw my hands into the ball. Some of the shots through this area sounded nicer than any shot I'd heard before.
I did feel a bit more vulnerable playing defensive shots, lobbing up a couple of potential C&B opportunities but that's always been a bit of a technical weakness for me so it;s something I'll have to see how I get on with once I've worked more on it.
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On Instagram, Gio is teaching Coco how to bat in 21 days.
Worth a watch/follow.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-UMv5WJVgd/?igshid=b7s3yunfq7wy (https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-UMv5WJVgd/?igshid=b7s3yunfq7wy)
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Very excited to sign her as our overseas for next season.
Will be an interesting watch and definitely something to fill the time. Thanks for sharing Buzz