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Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« on: February 08, 2020, 04:42:15 PM »
A few people has asked what unweighting/deweighting the bat is

A picture speaks 1000 words...










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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2020, 04:46:51 PM »
Just for good measure, here is a nice ones of how to hold the bat







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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2020, 05:03:33 PM »
Here are a few more pics of decent players playing classical shots, look at how their back foot has started lined up to point to provide balance through the shot










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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2020, 05:05:13 PM »
@Buzz haha “decent” players! Wait until all the VK fans come after you lol
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2020, 05:38:22 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 11, 2020, 05:03:33 PM
Here are a few more pics of decent players playing classical shots, look at how their back foot has started lined up to point to provide balance through the shot










OK so: Buttler in particular has quite an unorthodox technique, and plays very inside out. He's not an example of orthodox batting technique.

In other photos, eg Tendulkar, Kohli, the toe appears to be pointing into the ground, rather than towards point as you claim. These are all cover drives as well, straighter shots will require a straighter alignment of the feet.

No two batsmen are identical, and sure, some unorthodox batsmen like Buttler might play through the covers with their toe splayed out towards point. There is nothing wrong with that. But most don't. Its definitely not necessary.

For square drives/cover drives, batsmen are more likely to have more side-ways aligned feet, but this doesn't generalise to all front foot shots.

So in summary, this is not evidence that it is necessary to have the back toe pointing towards point to "provide balance through the shot". I've no idea where you've got that idea from, its perfectly possible to remain balance with front aligned feet, in fact this is how the majority of batsmen play.
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2020, 05:38:51 PM »
The will see Virat playing a glorious off drive in the last photo next to Babar Azam...

Oh and Jos Buttler isn't in any of the pictures

P. S. Started lined up with point 😉
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2020, 05:40:25 PM »
Quote from: SLA on February 11, 2020, 05:38:22 PM
OK so: Buttler in particular has quite an unorthodox technique, and plays very inside out. He's not an example of orthodox batting technique.
Lolz, that's Ian Bell. He's fairly orthodox I'd say!
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2020, 06:02:47 PM »
Re: "Unweighting", what's the correct sequence?

My issue with this is maintaining balance or head position. Pros have a sequence where they step foward and unweight simultaneously; where as un-pro me, unweights and then swivels like a tank turret to move towards the ball.

I have to check my videos to confirm my bad behavior. :D
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 10:21:54 PM »
Phil, I saw your tweet about unweighting tonight and knew there’d be a thread somewhere.

For those of us (me) who learn by words rather than pictures, what am I looking at?! All of the players have the bat pointed to the sky... what am I missing?
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2020, 10:33:26 PM »
Getting the bat above your wrists like that deweights the bat allowing a flow of the bat through the ball.
Especially when combined with playing the ball under your eyes.
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2020, 09:57:54 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 14, 2020, 10:33:26 PM
Getting the bat above your wrists like that deweights the bat allowing a flow of the bat through the ball.
Especially when combined with playing the ball under your eyes.

@Buzz whats the reason most of us don’t do this well? Bats too heavy relative to our strength?
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2020, 10:31:03 PM »
Quote from: brokenbat on February 15, 2020, 09:57:54 PM
@Buzz whats the reason most of us don’t do this well? Bats too heavy relative to our strength?
Technique, same as anything. Practice it and you can do it.
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2020, 02:03:56 AM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 14, 2020, 10:33:26 PM
Getting the bat above your wrists like that deweights the bat allowing a flow of the bat through the ball.
Especially when combined with playing the ball under your eyes.

@Buzz I'm still unclear.  I agree it might be "allowing a flow of the bat through the ball" for vertical bat shots, but I'm just not a fan of the terminology "deweighting".  The weight of the bat doesn't change, it's inertia doesn't change, it's centre of gravity doesn't change, so why 'deweighting' or 'unweighting'?

Is 'deweighting' part of the initial batting stance, or is it a new terminology for backswing?  If the former, It certainly seems very popular among English batters, and the English Women's team in particular all seem to bat this way.

My biggest problem with this is the simple fact that if your stance has the toe of the bat up around your ears, you have to start playing your shot earlier than you would if you started with that bat at 90 degrees from vertical.
Could you not also 'allow a flow of the bat through the ball' by having the bat 90 degrees from vertical but directly behind you instead of pointing to slips?

If I see anyone batting with the toe of the bat behind their ears I can't help but think that a combination of fast yorkers and slower balls will soon sort them out.
Perhaps I'm just a traditional old fart who needs the 1000 words :)  Where would I find them, as believe it of not, I am open to change for the better.
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2020, 08:42:19 AM »
Quote from: brokenbat on February 15, 2020, 09:57:54 PM
@Buzz whats the reason most of us don’t do this well? Bats too heavy relative to our strength?

Players aren't good at hinging their wrists.


@Chompy9760 I will come back to you on this.
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Re: Unweighting/deweighting the bat
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2020, 12:48:26 PM »
I had a go at this at nets this morning. Quite liked it. Although it reminds me of JB.
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