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Equipment => Helmets => Topic started by: Aussie on October 02, 2020, 12:50:28 PM
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So most leagues around the world (Including mine) have enforced a new helmet rule which means only helmets with fixed grills are permitted. If you don’t have one, you can’t play.
So I’ve had to reluctantly retire my beloved Albion and get a new Masuri. I found a season old one on gumtree for $50 (£25) so I went and picked it up.
Two things I’ve noticed - despite all the hype etc for these lids, they are very heavy. And the one I got is a titanium so can only imagine in horror how heavy the steel one is.
And most importantly, the fit (For me anyway) isn’t nearly as good as my old Albion. Whilst it still fits ok, it’s nowhere near to the level of my old Albion.
Has anyone been able to “Cheat” these new rules and fix their old grill and helmet together so they can’t (Or at least don’t look like to an umpire) they can be adjusted?
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Didn't @Buzz create a new type of compliant helmet in a thread a while ago?
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Just buy a new one that fits the current requirements.if you were to get hit and hurt, would you expect to be able to cheat insurance if you were using an outdated model?
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Didn't @Buzz create a new type of compliant helmet in a thread a while ago?
Yes, I had some fun playing with different options
You can have a look here.
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=37899.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=37899.0)
What I would say is that what I have ended up with is basically a regular os2 lid with ti grill.
I have spent some time playing with different padding inside the lids though too.
As others have said you just need to try a few on, the GM and GN ones are worth checking out (as well as the variety of Ayrtek ones).
On the weight, the double shell lids are very heavy. The single shell ones are significantly lighter.
The plastic masuri ones are quite light and you will be able to swap the grills over with your other lid if you want.
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Thanks Buzz - that thread is very interesting!
I bought this Masuri one because it was cheap, the right colour and the right size (I thought), although a medium Masuri is a lot smaller than a medium Albion. But I mean £25 for a helmet with little wear that sells for over £150 new is a bargain. I assumed that they were good going off all the hype. I still might try and persist getting used to it if lockdown ever ends here, but I think if I can’t get used to it, I’ll fill the holes on the Albion grill and make a cover plate to make it look and be un-adjustable. I have about 4 or 5 Albion helmets With different logos so it’d be sad to see them go to waste and no longer used!
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Umpires don’t know about gear - well they know about their County brand ball counters but that’s about it. I’m no longer playing at the level where I require a suit of armour to face opposition bowlers, and even if I was, my trusty Albion never let me down, in fact it saved my bacon on more than a few occasions.
I’m going to make a plate to cover the screw holes on the grill so time will tell if they pull me up or not. And if they do, I’ll have the Masuri in my bag to replace it. I believe it to be a mute point however as judging by recent seasons, I’m not out there long enough for these things to happen!!
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I'm still wearing my old Masuri adjustable and none has ever said it was a problem or not legal. Am I really supposed to replace it? There are still players who don't wear a helmet, so surely this is better than no protection at all?
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Money making scam. Sure the new ones are better as any newer product should be but to say 'you can't play unless you splash out ridiculous money' shouldn't be allowed.
I use a new Masuri iF I come across anyone actually 80mph but anything below that I don't bother with a helmet. TBH, as I don't play on duff tracks there just isn't the need for one. If anything, not wearing one helps as those who think they are quick but aren't try and 'bang one in' and then wonder why they get pulled and cut to death.
However, if you aren't very good against pace or play on tracks which aren't that good then you probably should wear one but even then.. a helmet from 5-6 years ago or less will still do the job.. We aren't pro's.. we aren't facing 85mph plus... or playing on tracks where a bowler can regularly attack your head.. hell, most bowlers can't even bowl straight enough often enough at people ..
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Saw Pollard playing with adjustable grill in IPL now and the width is set to maximum and and gap so large, it looks like two balls can fit through the grill. Not sure how he gets by at that level.
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I have been hit in the head mire times from deflections from rubbish bowlers and uneaven bounces than genuine quicks.
Plus with the increase of hit and giggle evening cricket on used and not that well prepared pitches, using a lid is advisable.
But each to their own.
With the older lids, most must be 6 or 7 years old now at a minimum. You have to ask if a fibreglass shell is still solid after that time.
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I have been hit in the head mire times from deflections from rubbish bowlers and uneaven bounces than genuine quicks.
Plus with the increase of hit and giggle evening cricket on used and not that well prepared pitches, using a lid is advisable.
But each to their own.
With the older lids, most must be 6 or 7 years old now at a minimum. You have to ask if a fibreglass shell is still solid after that time.
As you say.. crap wickets means better safe than sorry.. flat roads and true wickets.. not so much need
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Money making scam. Sure the new ones are better as any newer product should be but to say 'you can't play unless you splash out ridiculous money' shouldn't be allowed.
You don't need to spend ridiculous money. $80 Au buys a compliant helmet.
A couple years ago one of our juniors had a top edge from a slow bowler jam between grill and visor - with a quicker bowler it might have got through. Making a kids game safe is #1 priority, and if that sells a few helmets, so be it. There is nothing worse than thinking you're protected and finding out the hard way that you are not.
Kids never complain about having to wear a helmet - they just do it automatically, and will do so for life. It's us old dinosaurs that resist change and moan about it.
I find it's exactly the same with seat belts in cars.
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You don't need to spend ridiculous money. $80 Au buys a compliant helmet.
A couple years ago one of our juniors had a top edge from a slow bowler jam between grill and visor - with a quicker bowler it might have got through. Making a kids game safe is #1 priority, and if that sells a few helmets, so be it. There is nothing worse than thinking you're protected and finding out the hard way that you are not.
Kids never complain about having to wear a helmet - they just do it automatically, and will do so for life. It's us old dinosaurs that resist change and moan about it.
I find it's exactly the same with seat belts in cars.
Who said anything about kids ? Getting kids to wear one makes total sense and then at 18 they can choose (like an adult)
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On a side note, do Masuri re-cloth their helmets? I would like to get the club logo on it in case I use it, plus the cloth could do with a change.
Thanks
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More than a few adults who could use some encouragement to wear a helmet as well. All it takes is one top edge into your head or a stone on the pitch and you could be stuck never playing again.
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Never wore one until I was 30 after top edging one straight into my eyebrow. Ten stitches and very lucky not to hit my eye socket.
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I sometimes wear one in nets (depending on which bowlers turn up) but I haven't worn a helmet on the pitch since touring Barbados with uni almost 20 years ago. I get that some people have techniques that put them more at risk of getting hit, or are in prem leagues facing 80mph+ bowling, but each to their own; we're all adults.
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More than a few adults who could use some encouragement to wear a helmet as well. All it takes is one top edge into your head or a stone on the pitch and you could be stuck never playing again.
Lots will disagree but personally feel they should be compulsory at all levels of cricket.
As I say just my opinion but based on these two biggest reasons.
One the bowler feels awful once they have hurt a batsmen, seen it to many times to mention that we have a couple of genuine quick bowlers and we are making our way up through leagues due to moving leagues 4 years ago and stupid rule to start at bottom tier.
Secondly in this day and age of lawsuits for any reason good knows how good must clubs insurance policies are and could easily end a club if a player was hurt and really pushed through laws.
And finally never crashed my car but I always wear a seatbelt. Just because it hasn’t happened in 20 years or however long doesn’t mean it can’t. Age catches up with us all and a short ball, Beamer, top edge into your eye socket could be the first time you notice it.
As I say just my opinion
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And finally never crashed my car but I always wear a seatbelt. Just because it hasn’t happened in 20 years or however long doesn’t mean it can’t. Age catches up with us all and a short ball, Beamer, top edge into your eye socket could be the first time you notice it.
Saw this with our club's record scoring batsman, batting on an absolute pudding and the ball came on so slow he missed an attempted pull and ended up with a concussion.
Similarly, one of our keepers lost teeth batting in a midweek friendly against the gentlest dibbly dobbly bowling because he top edged the ball into his mouth.
You're batting against a rock hard cricket ball that doesn't need to be travelling very fast to knock your teeth out, give you a serious head injury or damage one of your eyes beyond repair. Each to his own but I cannot see how comfort or ease of vision balance out against the risks of not wearing a helmet myself.
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I wear one myself, but very glad they're not compulsory - almost everyone wears them at higher levels of the club game, and at the bottom end it would likely put more people off playing cricket than it would prevent injuries.
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Saw this with our club's record scoring batsman, batting on an absolute pudding and the ball came on so slow he missed an attempted pull and ended up with a concussion.
Similarly, one of our keepers lost teeth batting in a midweek friendly against the gentlest dibbly dobbly bowling because he top edged the ball into his mouth.
You're batting against a rock hard cricket ball that doesn't need to be travelling very fast to knock your teeth out, give you a serious head injury or damage one of your eyes beyond repair. Each to his own but I cannot see how comfort or ease of vision balance out against the risks of not wearing a helmet myself.
I have seen far more impact injuries to fielders, bowlers and umpires over 20+ years of league cricket than i have to on-strike batsmen. Which makes sense really - the ball comes off the bat far faster than it comes out of the hand, so the guy with the bat is probably the person least at risk on the whole pitch.
If you're going down the slightly-trolling "oh but seatbelts" safety angle, then you should really be arguing for it to be compulsory for bowlers, fielders and umpires to wear full protective gear including helmets before you worry about the batsmen.