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Making old helmet look compliant
« on: October 02, 2020, 12:50:28 PM »

So most leagues around the world (Including mine) have enforced a new helmet rule which means only helmets with fixed grills are permitted. If you don’t have one, you can’t play.
So I’ve had to reluctantly retire my beloved Albion and get a new Masuri. I found a season old one on gumtree for $50 (£25) so I went and picked it up.
Two things I’ve noticed - despite all the hype etc for these lids, they are very heavy. And the one I got is a titanium so can only imagine in horror how heavy the steel one is.
And most importantly, the fit (For me anyway) isn’t nearly as good as my old Albion. Whilst it still fits ok, it’s nowhere near to the level of my old Albion.
Has anyone been able to “Cheat” these new rules and fix their old grill and helmet together so they can’t (Or at least don’t look like to an umpire) they can be adjusted?
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2020, 01:29:52 PM »

Didn't @Buzz create a new type of compliant helmet in a thread a while ago?

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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2020, 03:48:21 PM »

Just buy a new one that fits the current requirements.if you were to get hit and hurt, would you expect to be able to cheat insurance if you were using an outdated model?
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2020, 07:02:07 PM »

Didn't @Buzz create a new type of compliant helmet in a thread a while ago?


Yes, I had some fun playing with different options

You can have a look here.
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=37899.0

What I would say is that what I have ended up with is basically a regular os2 lid with ti grill.
I have spent some time playing with different padding inside the lids though too.

As others have said you just need to try a few on, the GM and GN ones are worth checking out (as well as the variety of Ayrtek ones).

On the weight, the double shell lids are very heavy. The single shell ones are significantly lighter.

The plastic masuri ones are quite light and you will be able to swap the grills over with your other lid if you want.
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2020, 09:33:34 PM »

Thanks Buzz - that thread is very interesting!
I bought this Masuri one because it was cheap, the right colour and the right size (I thought), although a medium Masuri is a lot smaller than a medium Albion. But I mean £25 for a helmet with little wear that sells for over £150 new is a bargain. I assumed that they were good going off all the hype. I still might try and persist getting used to it if lockdown ever ends here, but I think if I can’t get used to it, I’ll fill the holes on the Albion grill and make a cover plate to make it look and be un-adjustable. I have about 4 or 5 Albion helmets With different logos so it’d be sad to see them go to waste and no longer used!
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2020, 05:59:22 AM »

Umpires don’t know about gear - well they know about their County brand ball counters but that’s about it. I’m no longer playing at the level where I require a suit of armour to face opposition bowlers, and even if I was, my trusty Albion never let me down, in fact it saved my bacon on more than a few occasions.
I’m going to make a plate to cover the screw holes on the grill so time will tell if they pull me up or not. And if they do, I’ll have the Masuri in my bag to replace it. I believe it to be a mute point however as judging by recent seasons, I’m not out there long enough for these things to happen!!
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2020, 11:40:42 AM »

I'm still wearing my old Masuri adjustable and none has ever said it was a problem or not legal. Am I really supposed to replace it? There are still players who don't wear a helmet, so surely this is better than no protection at all?
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2020, 02:49:26 PM »

Money making scam. Sure the new ones are better as any newer product should be but to say 'you can't play unless you splash out ridiculous money' shouldn't be allowed.

I use a new Masuri iF I come across anyone actually 80mph but anything below that  I don't bother with a helmet. TBH,  as I don't play on duff tracks there just isn't the need for one. If anything, not wearing one helps as those who think they are quick but aren't try and 'bang one in' and then wonder why they get pulled and cut to death.


However, if you aren't very good against pace or play on tracks which aren't that good then you probably should wear one but even then.. a helmet from 5-6 years ago or less will still do the job.. We aren't pro's.. we aren't facing 85mph plus...  or playing on tracks where a bowler can regularly attack your head.. hell, most bowlers can't even bowl straight enough often enough at people ..
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2020, 03:14:09 PM »

Saw Pollard playing with adjustable grill in IPL now and the width is set to maximum and and gap so large, it looks like two balls can fit through the grill. Not sure how he gets by at that level.
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2020, 03:24:53 PM »

I have been hit in the head mire times from deflections from rubbish bowlers and uneaven bounces than genuine quicks.
Plus with the increase of hit and giggle evening cricket on used and not that well prepared pitches, using a lid is advisable.
But each to their own.
With the older lids, most must be 6 or 7 years old now at a minimum. You have to ask if a fibreglass shell is still solid after that time.
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2020, 03:40:14 PM »

I have been hit in the head mire times from deflections from rubbish bowlers and uneaven bounces than genuine quicks.
Plus with the increase of hit and giggle evening cricket on used and not that well prepared pitches, using a lid is advisable.
But each to their own.
With the older lids, most must be 6 or 7 years old now at a minimum. You have to ask if a fibreglass shell is still solid after that time.

As you say.. crap wickets means better safe than sorry.. flat roads and true wickets.. not so much need
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2020, 05:18:09 AM »

Money making scam. Sure the new ones are better as any newer product should be but to say 'you can't play unless you splash out ridiculous money' shouldn't be allowed.

You don't need to spend ridiculous money.  $80 Au buys a compliant helmet.
A couple years ago one of our juniors had a top edge from a slow bowler jam between grill and visor - with a quicker bowler it might have got through.  Making a kids game safe is #1 priority, and if that sells a few helmets, so be it.  There is nothing worse than thinking you're protected and finding out the hard way that you are not.
Kids never complain about having to wear a helmet - they just do it automatically, and will do so for life.  It's us old dinosaurs that resist change and moan about it. 
I find it's exactly the same with seat belts in cars.
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2020, 05:22:35 AM »

You don't need to spend ridiculous money.  $80 Au buys a compliant helmet.
A couple years ago one of our juniors had a top edge from a slow bowler jam between grill and visor - with a quicker bowler it might have got through.  Making a kids game safe is #1 priority, and if that sells a few helmets, so be it.  There is nothing worse than thinking you're protected and finding out the hard way that you are not.
Kids never complain about having to wear a helmet - they just do it automatically, and will do so for life.  It's us old dinosaurs that resist change and moan about it. 
I find it's exactly the same with seat belts in cars.

Who said anything about kids ? Getting kids to wear one makes total sense and then at 18 they can choose (like an adult)
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2020, 05:56:59 AM »

On a side note, do Masuri re-cloth their helmets? I would like to get the club logo on it in case I use it, plus the cloth could do with a change.
Thanks
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Re: Making old helmet look compliant
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2020, 09:25:55 AM »

More than a few adults who could use some encouragement to wear a helmet as well. All it takes is one top edge into your head or a stone on the pitch and you could be stuck never playing again.
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