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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: InternalTraining on November 30, 2020, 05:50:35 PM
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How do you measure swing weight of a cricket bat? What's the process used by the bat makers?
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^ Makes you wonder why!
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^ Makes you wonder why!
I often wonder why you repeatedly ask such stupid questions...
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I often wonder why you repeatedly ask such stupid questions...
Because your repeated stupidity doesn't help. I was hoping someone other than you would know.
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If you don't know the answer, shut the hell up and move on!
Apparently, after all this talk, none of you really know how to calculate swing weight of a cricket bat. :D
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If you don't know the answer, shut the hell up and move on!
Apparently, after all this talk, none of you really know how to calculate swing weight of a cricket bat. :D
Such a friendly response - I’m sure that will get people wanting to reply to you 😂
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Apparently, after all this talk, none of you really know how to calculate swing weight of a cricket bat. :D
So do you know and you're asking if other people do it the same as you, or did you ask because you don't know either?
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I don’t even understand the question.
But I like cricket bats. Especially the ones with the pretty shiny stickers and a nice shape
I’ll go and stand back in the corner now.
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But I like cricket bats. Especially the ones with the pretty shiny stickers and a nice shape that come in pairs
;)
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;)
It’s an issue. Happened again at the weekend.
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It is not a trivial exercise. You'll have to do a lot of reading on how they calculate this for golf clubs (https://www.tgw.com/golf-guide/what-is-swing-weight/ (https://www.tgw.com/golf-guide/what-is-swing-weight/)) and try and translate it to cricket bats. IMO, not really worth your time, but wish you the best of luck!
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Most do it by picking a bat up, swinging it, and then saying “feels 2.9 maybe 2.10”
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It is not a trivial exercise. You'll have to do a lot of reading on how they calculate this for golf clubs (https://www.tgw.com/golf-guide/what-is-swing-weight/ (https://www.tgw.com/golf-guide/what-is-swing-weight/)) and try and translate it to cricket bats. IMO, not really worth your time, but wish you the best of luck!
Yes, that's pretty close.
I dug out an old message from @crictech with steps for a cricket bat. That guy was innovative, I can see why he dropped off. :D
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It is not a trivial exercise. You'll have to do a lot of reading on how they calculate this for golf clubs (https://www.tgw.com/golf-guide/what-is-swing-weight/ (https://www.tgw.com/golf-guide/what-is-swing-weight/)) and try and translate it to cricket bats. IMO, not really worth your time, but wish you the best of luck!
Don't bring golf into it! Next thing you know someone will be pitching one length bats, in the style of Bryson DeChambeau's irons
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Perhaps, just perhaps, the lack of caring about 'swing weight' or any other pickup measuring system in cricket is that it's a waste of time? Bat length is pretty much standardised, and weight distribution (ie shape) varies so widely that comparing pickup is a bit pointless - you could come up with a system and do your calculations and show that a 3lb2 Warner Kaboom and a 2lb6 M&H Solution had the same 'swing weight', but you'd be searching a long time to find one player who'd be happy using both of them!
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I suppose the potential attraction of some standardised method is to provide more information on a bat to the online shopper. Would remove one of the big pitfalls of buying bats online for those who aren't fortunate enough to live in travelling distance of a proper cricket retailer or manufacturer.
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I suppose the potential attraction of some standardised method is to provide more information on a bat to the online shopper. Would remove one of the big pitfalls of buying bats online for those who aren't fortunate enough to live in travelling distance of a proper cricket retailer or manufacturer.
Exactly!
Also, if you are buying a used bat from a friend, an extra piece of information about your favorite (dead weight) bat could help accept/reject a new addition.
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Exactly X2
That's the reason I went on about the Point of Balance in Chad's Chroma review.
I'd been out of cricket for 20 years. Still had a great bat that I bought in the 90's, but it was nearly 2 lb 14 which I thought was too much to swing, and justification to buy something lighter with a new shape.
Closest cricket shop with a decent range is 600km away, so I found a shape I liked, and bought one online that was about 2 lb 9. When it arrived, I was surprised to find that despite being 5 oz lighter, the pickup wasn't massively lighter than my old bat, all due to the Point of Balance being different. Knowing what I do now, it's hardly surprising.
When I put the weights and measurements into my caclulation, despite the new bat being being 10% lighter in dead weight, my calculated pickup factor was only 4% lighter.
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It would also be nice to be able to factually call BS on every Ebay con artist who has copy-pasted "great pickup, great ping" onto the 50 fake GMs they've stickered up in their garage...
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So um a dumb question from my side: What is the benefit of having calculated/measured the swing of a bat?
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So people who live in America can avoid paying return shipping for bats they buy online but don't like
Add people who live in Scotland to that list. Between Scotland's two biggest cities there are two shops that you can actually go to and pick up more than a couple of bats to see if you like them, neither of which offer a particularly large range. I've never bought a bat from either despite living, at different times, less than a 40 minute walk from each.
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The difference is it costs you £10 to send a bat back to a shop or manufacturer but significantly more for those in the US etc.
That's a fair point mate, but if I tack a tenner onto every bat I buy, plus say a fiver for every other piece of kit I buy (pads, gloves, helmet, thigh pads, kit bag, etc) plus the cost of postage for buying alternative items which I am happy with, you can see how it adds up pretty quickly.
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I think even folks like Bradman, Tendulkar, Ponting, Kohli etc won’t know - and they wouldn’t care either but this is an interesting question.
I think there are actually three questions here.
1 - What exactly is a cricket bat’s “swing weight”?
2 - How do we calculate it?
3 - How are we going to use this information?
To answer,
1 - I am almost sure you picked up this fancy term “swing weight” from golf, and even through you may deny it, it does not relate to a cricket bat. Never has been either.
2 - Since the calculation of swing weight requires
a - Weight of the club head
b - Weight of the grip
c - Weight of the shaft
d - Length of the golf club
it cannot be applied to a cricket bat, and hence we probably cannot calculate it.
3 - Nothing.
And even if you find the swing weight of your cricket bat (roughly 2 grams equals to 1 swing weight), your batting will equally suck.