Measuring The Swing Weight Of A Bat
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Jimbo

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Re: Measuring The Swing Weight Of A Bat
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2020, 04:33:49 PM »
I suppose the potential attraction of some standardised method is to provide more information on a bat to the online shopper. Would remove one of the big pitfalls of buying bats online for those who aren't fortunate enough to live in travelling distance of a proper cricket retailer or manufacturer.
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Re: Measuring The Swing Weight Of A Bat
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2020, 05:18:22 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on December 01, 2020, 04:33:49 PM
I suppose the potential attraction of some standardised method is to provide more information on a bat to the online shopper. Would remove one of the big pitfalls of buying bats online for those who aren't fortunate enough to live in travelling distance of a proper cricket retailer or manufacturer.

Exactly!

Also, if you are buying a used bat from a friend, an extra piece of information about your favorite (dead weight) bat could help accept/reject a new addition.
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2020, 10:36:54 PM »
Exactly X2
That's the reason I went on about the Point of Balance in Chad's Chroma review.

I'd been out of cricket for 20 years.  Still had a great bat that I bought in the 90's, but it was nearly 2 lb 14 which I thought was too much to swing, and justification to buy something lighter with a new shape.

Closest cricket shop with a decent range is 600km away, so I found a shape I liked, and bought one online that was about 2 lb 9.  When it arrived, I was surprised to find that despite being 5 oz lighter, the pickup wasn't massively lighter than my old bat, all due to the Point of Balance being different.  Knowing what I do now, it's hardly surprising.

When I put the weights and measurements into my caclulation, despite the new bat being being 10% lighter in dead weight, my calculated pickup factor was only 4% lighter.
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Re: Measuring The Swing Weight Of A Bat
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2020, 10:44:18 PM »
It would also be nice to be able to factually call BS on every Ebay con artist who has copy-pasted "great pickup, great ping" onto the 50 fake GMs they've stickered up in their garage...
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2020, 10:13:42 AM »
So um a dumb question from my side: What is the benefit of having calculated/measured the swing of a bat?
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Re: Measuring The Swing Weight Of A Bat
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2020, 10:48:58 AM »
Quote from: DorsetDan on December 03, 2020, 10:38:53 AM
So people who live in America can avoid paying return shipping for bats they buy online but don't like

Add people who live in Scotland to that list. Between Scotland's two biggest cities there are two shops that you can actually go to and pick up more than a couple of bats to see if you like them, neither of which offer a particularly large range. I've never bought a bat from either despite living, at different times, less than a 40 minute walk from each.
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Re: Measuring The Swing Weight Of A Bat
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2020, 11:28:01 AM »
Quote from: DorsetDan on December 03, 2020, 11:14:18 AM
The difference is it costs you £10 to send a bat back to a shop or manufacturer but significantly more for those in the US etc.

That's a fair point mate, but if I tack a tenner onto every bat I buy, plus say a fiver for every other piece of kit I buy (pads, gloves, helmet, thigh pads, kit bag, etc) plus the cost of postage for buying alternative items which I am happy with, you can see how it adds up pretty quickly.
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Re: Measuring The Swing Weight Of A Bat
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2020, 04:44:04 AM »
I think even folks like Bradman, Tendulkar, Ponting, Kohli etc won’t know - and they wouldn’t care either but this is an interesting question.

I think there are actually three questions here.

1 - What exactly is a cricket bat’s “swing weight”?
2 - How do we calculate it?
3 - How are we going to use this information?


To answer,

1 - I am almost sure you picked up this fancy term “swing weight” from golf, and even through you may deny it, it does not relate to a cricket bat. Never has been either.

2 - Since the calculation of swing weight requires

a - Weight of the club head
b - Weight of the grip
c - Weight of the shaft
d - Length of the golf club

it cannot be applied to a cricket bat, and hence we probably cannot calculate it.

3 - Nothing.
And even if you find the swing weight of your cricket bat (roughly 2 grams equals to 1 swing weight), your batting will equally suck.




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