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Title: Playing the sweep
Post by: Ronnie on April 29, 2021, 07:43:23 AM

hi, just wanted peoples opinions regarding the sweep shot, i find its the most difficult shot to play consistently, also i think its the most effective shot against good spin bowling in terms of rotating strike? which i think is very important in club cricket, i find myself often bogged down against good off spin and struggle to rotate strike, i desperatly want to improve playing the sweep, any tips on improving this shot and rotating strike against spin bowling in general
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 08:28:00 AM
Funny enough I love sweeping spinner, being myself an off spinner 😀
You have to be on aggressive mode to see the line and length of the delivery and quickly take a leading foot in the line of it and sweep.
Most of the times delivery should be flighted, to make it a half volley, this is just the traditional way.
You need to be in forward playing mode, as much possible.
You gonna miss it is there's any hesitation.
So the best way would be have 2 shots in your mind: sweep or dab to backward square leg area, for an easy single.
First thing is to see what the pitch is doing and from there onwards try to unsettle bowler, by moving, changing guard etc.
I've been finishing my overs within a minute, when things were going tight 😀 the season before.
This is what are looking to avoid! 🙂
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: play-yourself-in on April 29, 2021, 08:33:55 AM
As very much a non-sweeper i can't offer much advice but i did once get some good advice from a former overseas pro at our club. In fact he used the sweep shot as an example. He said if you want to learn and perfect a new shot then get in the net and play that shot to every single ball you face. You'll soon learn which balls, lines and lengths you can use that shot against.

Maybe try that and see how it goes. You might get out a lot or even get hit a fair amount but hopefully you might learn to master the shot.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 08:52:43 AM
As very much a non-sweeper i can't offer much advice but i did once get some good advice from a former overseas pro at our club. In fact he used the sweep shot as an example. He said if you want to learn and perfect a new shot then get in the net and play that shot to every single ball you face. You'll soon learn which balls, lines and lengths you can use that shot against.

Maybe try that and see how it goes. You might get out a lot or even get hit a fair amount but hopefully you might learn to master the shot.

Good luck.
That's one way to do it!
For starter it would be better for looking for middle leg deliveries.
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: LEACHY48 on April 29, 2021, 09:27:47 AM
hi, just wanted peoples opinions regarding the sweep shot, i find its the most difficult shot to play consistently, also i think its the most effective shot against good spin bowling in terms of rotating strike? which i think is very important in club cricket, i find myself often bogged down against good off spin and struggle to rotate strike, i desperatly want to improve playing the sweep, any tips on improving this shot and rotating strike against spin bowling in general

Head over the front knee, hands high, let the bat flow through the ball.

I sweep on line, anything outside off stump is a free sweep, anything targeting the stumps and its a more risky shot.

General rule of thumb: paddle sweep to a flatter quicker delivery, hard sweep or slog sweep need more flight. Generally, the closer to off stump the ball is, the squarer you can try to hit it.
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 09:43:59 AM
It all depends on the flight and the length of the ball, you can even sweep from outside the off stumps, but you must be looking out to sweep anything in the reach.
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 09:59:56 AM
Riskier will be playing the 2nd sweep to the same bowler!  Most likely he'll adjust his line and length.
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 29, 2021, 10:41:21 AM
Don't most bowlers randomly 'adjust their length' by default in club cricket?
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 29, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
* Apologies to those of you who play a higher standard.
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Jimbo on April 29, 2021, 10:57:21 AM
Don't most bowlers randomly 'adjust their length' by default in club cricket?

"Natural variation" 😂
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 11:14:46 AM
Don't most bowlers randomly 'adjust their length' by default in club cricket?
Yes many will do that
why not give one more flighted delivery? but then slower one?
Depends on confidence!
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 29, 2021, 11:59:15 AM
Yes many will do that
why not give one more flighted delivery? but then slower one?
Depends on confidence!

Slower than more flighted? Very flighted, you mean?
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 29, 2021, 12:07:52 PM
"Natural variation" 😂

Ever listened to a post-match tale of bowler's plan coming to fruition and thought: "But you barely know which half of the pitch you're landing it in, mate"?
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Batoff on April 29, 2021, 12:09:44 PM
Ever listened to a post-match tale of bowler's plan coming to fruition and thought: "But you barely know which half of the pitch you're landing it in, mate"?

Maybe that's the plan?
"If I don't know where it's going the batsman's got no chance of guessing"
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 29, 2021, 12:17:09 PM
Maybe that's the plan?
"If I don't know where it's going the batsman's got no chance of guessing"

It's a 'plan' that can actually work in lower level cricket. I hate facing that sort of bowling. But bowlers are rarely so honest?
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 12:19:23 PM
Slower than more flighted? Very flighted, you mean?
No, I said, one more flighted delivery, same trajectory but slower, that's the plan 😀
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 29, 2021, 12:29:45 PM
No, I said, one more flighted delivery, same trajectory but slower, that's the plan 😀

Same trajectory but slower? Wouldn't that be defying the *coughs* laws of physics?
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: brokenbat on April 29, 2021, 12:30:59 PM
Try just getting one type of sweep right - that alone can help. After hours of being humiliated in the nets, I am now decent at the paddle sweep - play it every time there’s no fine leg. Regular sweep is still an issue and I don’t bother with it. Getting decent with reverse paddle sweep too.

Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 12:40:33 PM
Same trajectory but slower? Wouldn't that be defying the *coughs* laws of physics?

I Know nothing about physics!
Would like try these flights on you
What about next delivery, slightly bit quicker but on the stumps?
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Jimbo on April 29, 2021, 01:02:23 PM
Ever listened to a post-match tale of bowler's plan coming to fruition and thought: "But you barely know which half of the pitch you're landing it in, mate"?

I'm quite often the one telling those tales 😂 "oh yeah, just rolled the fingers over that slow full toss that the batsman somehow chipped to a fielder"
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 29, 2021, 01:22:49 PM
I Know nothing about physics!

And your bats have 40mm edges. :D

Game over?
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: AJ2014 on April 29, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
And your bats have 40mm edges. :D

Game over?
Not so fast 😎😃😃
Not yet!
This game had no end!
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: brokenbat on April 29, 2021, 02:31:32 PM
You guys should get a room...
Title: Re: Playing the sweep
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on April 29, 2021, 03:56:32 PM
You guys should get a room...

We'd disagree over its dimensions.