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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Topic started by: Tom on March 08, 2010, 02:33:06 PM
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Just thought I'd give you a teaser of what's coming in the next week. Hopefully will be in use over the next month in the IPL.
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Teaser's seem to be all the rage nowadays - whats wrong with showing people a whole bat :D
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Haha wait till Friday morning ;)
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Stickers look good - im guessing these colours are for pro's only?
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Put my name down for one. Hehe
Of course im playing in the IPL :D
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Stickers look good - im guessing these colours are for pro's only?
Pro's and a very small number of signed Limited Edition bats for sale.
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Should I be keeping an eye out for this bat on ITV4 from 2.15 onwards? :P
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Good idea - exclusivity sells.
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Pro's and a very small number of signed Limited Edition bats for sale.
I take it you wont be signing these bats, but your soon to be announced player/s?
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Nice... pink and purple goooses!
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the stickers look great mate, but quit teasing us about this limited eddition, I want to see it now lol
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i hate this i wanna see the whole bat :(
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I like these, looking forward to CoR3 stickers too ;)
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yup yup what will be the price on theese tom ? ;)
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Well if they arent outrageous i'm gonna ge tone, was after another cor anyway so will wait for one of these bad boys!
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Colour scheme looks really good, are these bats gonna be any different or just LE branding?
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Nice stickers but I cant wait till Friday! Whole bat now please!
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for me its ou of a saf or a goose depends on the pictures i cant wait :D
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Colour scheme looks really good, are these bats gonna be any different or just LE branding?
Essentially the same bat, just made to the pro's shape and signed by him.
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Essentially the same bat, just made to the pro's shape and signed by him.
dam tom. ever since you told me that you had a huge t20 player signed on I just cannot stop thinking who it could be. cant wait for friday
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Cat's out of the bag already unfortunately, one of the large Indian newspapers reported it today after seeing him twatting balls in nets.
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So this mystery player is...?
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http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIM/2010/03/09&PageLabel=21&EntityId=Ar02102&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T
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Impressive, Matty Hayden doesn't come cheap... it will be interesting to see how successful he is with it
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Who knows what he cost...hes not a current test players etc so perhaps he wants to give himself the edge when at the crease!?
Maybe cheaper than most if he's not in the shop window on a regular basis...players can be tied up for a single tournament by a sponsor so hope it pays off for Tom and Mongoose with some CSK wins :)
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Will he be using Mongoose softs?
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pretty sure he will Ayrtek maybe you could sponsor him with the helmets ;) forum brands
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Tom could write that into player contracts. Must use Ayrtek lids!
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yupp good idea
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pretty sure he will Ayrtek maybe you could sponsor him with the helmets ;) forum brands
Custombats forum members should sponser him:
1 of Petehosk's bats ( Im sure he wont miss 1 ;) )
Mongoose Gloves
Vantage Pads
Ayrtek lid
Aswani Cricket Thigh Pads :)
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wow, you got hayden, nice mate, I cant wait to see him swing the goose in the IPL
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same im on it after school on friday no going to be an asbo for me !!!
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Wonder how many games he will use it in ?
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all im guessingg
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Would be surprised if he used it all tournament unless he scores runs early with it ? lets hope I'm wrong though.
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Wonder how many games he will use it in ?
I think we'll see it in a few games depending on bowlers and situations. He's been netting with it since July.
Still got the other big name under wraps although nothing put to paper there yet!
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Another Aussie?
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Cant say im that suprised - as brand that has marketed itself as the innovator in the 20/20 market it would be rather embarassing not to be featured in the worlds most presitgious 20/20 torunament - i hope Hayden scores runs not only because he is a very good 20/20 player but also because it would be a monumental failure for you guys if he doesnt come off.......we shall see on friday who the next unveiling is.......i get a feeling this guy will be a bit of a 6 hitter :D
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Sounds a bit mean... but would love it if he got peppered with bouncers, couldn't fend them off and had to go back to a normal bat!!
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I am guessing he also has a Cor3 with him aswell?
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Full stickers now on the site.
Hayden will be using both bats I would think, possibly starting with the CoR then switching.
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I like them :D
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Purple?
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Purple?
that looks F**king sweet
If I had the money, and totaly knew I could get used to the MMi, I would so get that lol
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that looks F**king sweet
If I had the money, and totaly knew I could get used to the MMi, I would so get that lol
Same here :) Plus i want a Core ;)
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News official on our .in site http://www.mongoosecricket.in/
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cant read the news because the website isnt working properly.....am i the only one not able to get it to work?
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Oh, and Symonds......shame im not a betting man :D
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cant read the news because the website isnt working properly.....am i the only one not able to get it to work?
It might be an error with it, it's not perfect.
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By the way - if you can afford a nice website like that, i dont understand why you dont have a space on this forum to advertise?
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Shilly, do you see GM, GN advertising here. It would be a waste of money for a few visits to a forum a day..
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I think forum advertising is very worth while, its not expensive and gives new brands like mongoose loads of exposure!
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It would be a better forum if they did bully, yes sales may not hit the roof but for people to be in direct contact with bigger brands is an undervalued commodity which costs hardly anything and can equate to future sales.......so for the very few pennies that it does cost, then no, i dont think it is a waste of money at all.
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Agree with you Dom... new stuff looks lovely by the way tom.
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Maybe they will be advertising on another forum???
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That would be good - wouldnt mind hearing their opinions on their goods/quality/prices etc.
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yeah tom, pull your finger out mate would be great to see a goose section on the forum!
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in the news!!!!
http://cricketnext.in.com/news/hayden-launches-mongoose-bat/47383-13.html
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Cricinfo too :D
http://www.cricinfo.com/ipl2010/content/current/series/418064.html
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Love the gloves Tom, whats the cost on a large lh pair and when are they available.
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Still got the other big name under wraps although nothing put to paper there yet!
50p says Andrew Symonds is next...
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Tom - genuinely hope the 20/20 tournament goes well for you boys, Hayden was a good choice in my opinion.
I picked up on this on the cricketnext site.....
"Since there is no splice, the sweet spot is increased by 120 per cent," he said........does Fernandez even know his own product???
I know he is probably indicating the blade has no visible splice, but it makes it sound like a spliceless bat which it isnt.
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Wonder how the small goose would be doing the scoop over the head shot?
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I'm sure it would be the same played with a standard bat and with a mongoose.....perhaps you can buy one and try it out :D
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I'm sure it would be the same played with a standard bat and with a mongoose.....perhaps you can buy one and try it out :D
Naa don't want a bat with a weaker splice join ;)
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Doubt the join is any weaker - the bond to the wood would be the same.....just less wood around the splice area thats all....there might be more pressure on the splice but this is something they would have tested before shipping the product out.
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There's a few thousand bats out there and not a single handle has broken yet. Touch wood.
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Mongoose have signed Symonds!
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thats what i'd heard too. where you see that ashvir?
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It's on their Twitter feed
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http://www.mongoosecricket.in/
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Blimey!!!! Just been on the website, looked at the MMI3 Custom Superior - knocked in and personalised for £364.......bit steep for my liking!!! I guess mongoose have put themself in the same bracket as the Pumas, Kooks, GM and GN's with regard to pricing.
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iv just looked on the people who have bidded on the item, all the bidders have been bidding on that bat and mobile phones, however are different accounts?
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Blimey!!!! Just been on the website, looked at the MMI3 Custom Superior - knocked in and personalised for £364.......bit steep for my liking!!! I guess mongoose have put themself in the same bracket as the Pumas, Kooks, GM and GN's with regard to pricing.
Gotta pay Hayden et al's salaries some how...
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If you're going to sell a premium product it's an idea to price it in line with other premium products.
You don't see Rolls Royce or Ferrari pitching in at the same price as a Hyundai.
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Fair call, that price would put me off, that's all.
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Also- don't Rolls Royces and Ferraris cost more to make than a Hyundai..?
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Lol, go mongoose!
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These cost more to make than our standard bats. The bats aren't going to sell in volume, we understand that and there's only 40 available.
You obviously disagree. But feel free to go ahead and offer your own range of bats hand-signed by your star player for a bargain price.
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What is different about them that makes them more to make, thought you said it was just the stickers?
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They cost more to make, that's a fact. You don't need to know why, how or see our year-end accounts.
They're made from the best willow, hand-signed by a superstar and have snazzy top quality stickers on. I'm obviously happy to answer questions which a potential buyer may want to ask, but don't want to be dragged into answering questions from competitors on our financials.
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That's cool, I was just clearing it up, because yesterday you said they'd be the same bat, but now you say they're different.
Any reason you don't want us to see your year end accounts?
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Those jazzy stickers I can't wait to see, can you get natty to sign my re-badges solitaire? I'm only gaming you tom!
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I'm actually looking foward to seeing the MMi bats out there to see how they go, it should be great to watch
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On Tom's recommendation, I've just agreed with Pete Hosk for him to hand sign 40 ltd edition Jokers.
Sorry lads- he's also already bought all 40...
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Same bat in physical design, different in stickers, grips, signature and willow (therefore costs). I thought you may be able to understand that, but obviously looking at it and reading the description wasn't enough.
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Charlie, stop having a go at Tom and release the bloody joker.
If you'd paid Hayden to use your bats for the IPL, he probably wouldn't even had it in time!
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Could have another Woodworm on our hands here!
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hope not!!!
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Charlie, stop having a go at Tom and release the bloody joker.
If you'd paid Hayden to use your bats for the IPL, he probably wouldn't even had it in time!
The Joker launch is 100% on schedule.
I wasn't having a go at all, Tom knows that, I just wasn't sure what it was that was different.
Cheers
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It's very difficult to launch a radical product and get people using it in large quantities unless you have someone using it on the world stage. The MMi3 is the most radical looking (legal) bat for 100 years, so it's always risky especially in an industry considered by large as pretty conservative. We're giving it a good go though and are on track to meet targets.
Who was the last cricket brand to break through (by that I mean be stocked in all major retailers, decent market share etc) without sponsoring any Internationals?
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Like i have said before you not knock these company's for trying different things the truth is only time will tell if they make it many have tried and failed and only a few succeed.
to put black cat cricket in the same market to mongoose is to be honest not a contest but the joker may change this but i doubt it.
i think the room for english batmakers is timed and it is running out but maybe i'am wrong but doubt it
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I agree to an extent Pro, SAF won best bat in AOC. However that exposure still isn't anywhere near as good as seeing KP knock a ton against Aus... So I agree with Tom, if you've got the £, hit the market hard!
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or become extinct simple as that.
it a case of spend to make and either company's aint got it or like moongoose have done gone for it and i take my hat off for this.
it one thing being a big bat maker on this forum but beyond this there small fry and what ayrtek and moongoose have done is a good effort in bringing ideas and backing it up with a bit of clout and taking a risk and not just targeting kids on this forum
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I think people either like the bat and therefore back it and hope it does well or the opposite happens - mongoose as a company have certainly divided opinions. (Tick the box for marketting!) :D
Tom, the one question i would ask, is that you compare yourself to Ferrari and Rolls Royce, do you really consider yourself as a crikcet brand to have built up such a reputation already that you can happily compare yourself to the brand leaders??? For me, Ferrari and Rolls Roycs built their name and reputation over many years, whereas mongoose have marketed a product well and invested heavily in this - but does this truly equate to instant recognition as a top end manufactuer/brand leader? As a consumer, i simply do not put mongoose into the same bracket as the more established brands (yet). Therefore, this is the reason why i have questioned the price - it is not malicious and i hope it comes across as constructive rather than cynical - but obviously your perspective of mongoose will be different to mine, to black cats, to watson's etc.
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as said previously mongoose are the new woodworm simple as that. hope they last longer
last 2 brands to brake through puma/addidas?????
last 4 brands to fail slazenger/hunts county/woodworm/duncan fearnley
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Ferrari sell a premium product aimed at a few individuals, they sell at a premium price. We're selling a premium product here so it makes sense to sell it at a premium price. Do you agree with that? That is where my comparison ends, please don't read so much into things.
Where would you pitch your top of the range bat, hand signed by a superstar and made from a select number of clefts. Considering Kookaburra et al (who we strive to compete with) sell their bog standard top of the range at an RRP in excess of £380.
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good point and i agree but tom i hope your not throwing all your eggs into one basket bud.
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Well considering i have no superstar, no brand and no bats i wouldnt have a clue :D
I was only trying to gauge your opinion of yourself as a brand - all along i have applauded your methods and the way you have done things as a brand, i think the product itslef (the mmi3 in particular) could do with some refining but this is personal taste.......and who am i to argue with the several thousand happy customers already.
In a sense it is hard to gauge you as a brand - simply because the last brand who approached from this angle was woodworm and they seemed to think they had a revolutionary product at the time but have since fallen into the abyss that is sportshq :(
I wont read into things so much next time - i agree that if you are saying your product is the best, then you expect to get the best prices as well......and if kook, gn, gm, puma etc can all rrp to £400, then your £325 is a fair price. I'm just a poor bugger so the idea of paying anything over £150 scares me :D
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These cost more to make than our standard bats. The bats aren't going to sell in volume, we understand that and there's only 40 available.
You obviously disagree. But feel free to go ahead and offer your own range of bats hand-signed by your star player for a bargain price.
Ferrari sell a premium product aimed at a few individuals, they sell at a premium price. We're selling a premium product here so it makes sense to sell it at a premium price. Do you agree with that? That is where my comparison ends, please don't read so much into things.
Where would you pitch your top of the range bat, hand signed by a superstar and made from a select number of clefts. Considering Kookaburra et al (who we strive to compete with) sell their bog standard top of the range at an RRP in excess of £380.
from bargain price to premium price, im slightly confused, tom do you mean that at a premium price it is a bargain? long day :(
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premium product at bargain price i think - when compared to pumas, kooks etc.
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Sorry, I was suggesting that as Charlie disagreed with our premium price for a premium product idea that perhaps he may be onto something by selling one at a bargain price. Slightly flippant remark...
This is what Mongoose and the forum is about as design brings debate.
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good luck tom and mongoose that all i say
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I can't understand why there is so much questioning around Mongoose's price point. A consumer can choose to buy based on what they value in a brand. At the end of the day, some would value the innovative shape, the marketing, the labels and the signature. That's the target customer for Mongoose. But others won't and will buy other stuff. Personally I see no value in buying a top end GN but will happily shell out the same money for an established custom bat maker. Sometime ago there was a bat for £400 with no brand no nothing but had the promise of great ping and many grains. Even that found a buyer. Clearly that customer valued something in that bat.
Like Procricket, I think its great that Mongoose have made a bet on their business model and are backing it with the means. I sincerely hope that the market research they did on their target customer segment is spot on and they go on to become an established brand. Either way I am eager to see Matty Hayden using the MMi...
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Up the goose!
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i think the premium price is a fair price, its a premium bat, if you don't like the price simply don't buy the premium by the MMI,
its just at the moment i cant buy either looking for some doh :P
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Tom - genuinely hope the 20/20 tournament goes well for you boys, Hayden was a good choice in my opinion.
I picked up on this on the cricketnext site.....
"Since there is no splice, the sweet spot is increased by 120 per cent," he said........does Fernandez even know his own product???
I know he is probably indicating the blade has no visible splice, but it makes it sound like a spliceless bat which it isnt.
If you watch the launch vid here SS, you'll see it's a portion of a longer quote which explains it. Ignore first 47 secs of adverts
http://www.sivajitv.com/events/mathew-hayden-launch-mongoose-cricket-bat-video.htm
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good video mate
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I think it has already been covered that the splice is exactly the same as a standard bat but not seen as shoulders shaved away.
I didn't see the match today, what model did Symond's use?
I'd like to know how Marcus can say that the MMI3 picks up better than a standard bat, he has to have cocked that up ;)
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He used the Cor3
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I think he's just going on what some pro's have said Mike on pickup, Shane Warne has been on the TV commentating the same. We do get some which pick up amazingly, just like you do with standard bats.
Shoulders shaved away (although how many people hold their regular bats round the shoulders) and splices moved into the handle same thing. Depends how pernickety you want to be.
The latter for me is a better description as a handle is defined as something you hold, you're holding the splice and by definition the splice is now the handle.
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I believe that you are meant to grip the Mongoose as you would a normal bat, so having no shoulders does not make the handle bigger unless it is for gripping the bat with, in which case with a lower grip you will have less bat speed than a normal bat.
I don't find any normal bats pick up lighter than others through anything other than shape. The lower the mass of wood the heavier the pick up. Since the mongoose has the lowest mass it picks up the heaviest pound for pound. There is a very simple way to tell and that is to measure the COG (Centre Of Gravity), the lower the heavier the pick up.
Anyway too late in the night to argue now, hope you had a good day in Winchester.
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Mike, if you want to argue with what Shane Warne has said then feel free. Marcus also said in his opinion. I am not the one saying it. I can honestly say we've had some which pick up no different at all to a normal bat and feel very nice.
Lost me with the first bit, but it seems like you're trying to argue that the handle is a not a handle? The whole length of the grip can be used to grip the bat with, you can play flicky dilscoop style shots by moving your hands up and down it.
Question. Just because you don't always grip a broom down next to the brush does that make that section not a handle?
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A, it is a handle if it is intended to be handled.
Dilshan plays the shot quite well without the MMi3, I play upper cuts over the slips with my bottom hand on the blade, does that make it a handle?
I'm not going to argue about someone's opinion, it can not be proved or disproved, that is why marketing firms use them so much. But the COG measurement does away with arguements, why not just send me the highest COG you have for a MMi3 for my reference chart as at the moment it is nailed to the bottom.
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this mongoose is a ataking bat so you would have to come back alot to get balde on ball
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I see Symond's is just using his normal bat with Mongoose stickers, maybe that is why he went cheaply!!!
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Actually had a bit of fun at nets last night - one of the colt players borrowed the MMi3 Custom Pro. He had fun with it to be fair and it went well when he got blade on the ball. Will have to try it out for myself soon so that I can comment fully.
And I noticed that too! Is it me or did Symond's 'Mongoose' have a splice??
I assume that if I wasn't seeing things, then he was using another bat and stickered it up with goose labels??
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Obviously, symo or hayden aren't gonna use a bat from hunts county. I'd bet haydens has a splice.
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i think he was but thay must not of got him cheap it may be personal preference although to they untrained eye it does look like a goose ;)
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Symonds not using one of ours is my fault, didn't get bats until Friday morning. I would hope he'd use a proper 'Goose later in the IPL, if he doesn't I'll be incredibly disapointed.
Hunts County don't make all our bats Seedy either, again watch the videos. Pros can specify where there bats are made.
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Will Symonds be using a Cor3 or an MMi3???
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Not sure we'll see him with the MMi3.
Hayden we will and really should do, seeing as our launch revolved around him.
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Who does Hayden play for in the IPL?
Looking forward to seeing that! He is aggressive enough and hits the ball like a rocket with a standard bat.....so should be good to watch how he gets on with the MMi3! :D
Ooooh - almost at 1000 posts!! Will try not to get bowled like KP before reaching that landmark!
Although the dogs need a walk first!
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Chennai Super Kings. Don't think he'll use it from the off though.
"If you're asking me if I'll use it, I certainly will — it will be used strategically" Is what he has said.
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Come on Tom, Sareen could make an unbelievable bat for Symond's and have it in his hands the morning after the order at worst. You are a professional company and would have had 6 minimum made for him in case he signed for you and ready to go at the drop of a hat. I blame Symond's not you, he has let you down and you should dock his pay.
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Have you tried dealing with Sareen for bats Mike? It was a 3 week waiting list before the IPL. Symonds was a very last minute thing, I only shortlisted him in early Feb. I take it very personally if they don't use our bats, so rest assured I'll be speaking with Andrew and our suppliers to ensure we have bats A. There on time B. To his spec.
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Well give me a shout in future if you can't get bats made sooner than 3 weeks, I'll help you out.
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Obviously the pros feel the concept is an intriguing idea however from the point of actually using the bat they must feel the concept wont work or why else would they not use the bat from the start of the game and in every game. I'm not sure how this actually reflects on Mongoose but it sure it wont be the success they had obviously hoped for.
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I disagree with the fact they aren't using it because they don't believe in it. I just think they are used to taking cash for stickers and the main point is that the bat is meant to be a radical departure from the norm and so they need to use the shape instead of the stickers. Also these 2 new players are ex Internationals and it is just a pay day to them, their careers are behind them and so I guess they are less interested in using new ideas, I bet an emerging Aussie Test cricketer would invest more thought into a MMi3 or COR and that would be a better signing for Mongoose when they get a new player.
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i would have gone with brad hodge one of the best 20/20 players there is but i guess he fails in the same category
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It's a confidence issue Watson I think, you see them in nets and they tank it all over the place. But they're worried of getting out first ball with a 'Goose, with a normal bat there is much less pressure. McGlashan in NZ took it out straight up and hit bowlers all over the park. I'd love all our players to do that, but it will need a big hundred or quick 50 to build it.
To say Hayden needs the cash is laughable, as he said in the interview he is keen for this to be a long term venture. You know nothing about the deal with Matthew and Mongoose Mike.
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Well i pretty much stand by my opinions, if your paid to use a product and your happy with it then you would do what your paid to do ? however if your not that happy with it then the odd part time appearance may keep your sponsors relatively happy.
Hope im wrong.
Tom i all so agree with the confidence thing as this obviously so very different from the norm which is a pressure in its self.
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all i say is you can not knock it how many others from this forum have there products there
well done tom
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The majority of cricketers in the world has used another brand with their sponsors stickers on, only problem with Mongoose is it is more apparent. And us keen eyed bat nerds will always pick up on the couple of occasions there is a splice in the bat.
I would hate to think that a couple of our bats aren't good enough for guys like Symonds and take it rather personally. So am constantly working on them to improve it for our Test players and most importantly the regular punters.
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If you cant get those who you pay to use how it, how do you expect ordinary folk to pay to use it?
It doesn't make sense, you seem to be about a radical break through in the design of a cricket bat, but now its just another normal company who pay pro's to sticker their bats with your stickers, or im I missing something?
I find it hard to believe Matthew Hayden has ever suffered from low confidence, when he made his career out of standing there chest puffed out and smashing it to all parts.
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Let's see what Hayden does with it, you're all assuming he won't use it at all at the moment. The bats biggest market is club cricketers, where the pitches are slower, lower and bowlers not as quick. I'd think we've now sold a few thousand of these and many club cricketers are getting on brilliantly with them.
We're not about paying pros to sticker bats. Which is why I said just a minute ago I take it rather personally and am constantly working on improvements.
It's easy for you all to stand there and say these things, but the reality is I'm attempting to change consumer and the cricketing worlds attitude to the game and bats. It's incredibly difficult, a huge challenge and takes time.
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I guessed you would be paying Hayden, in which case that would be the reason he is using it? Correct me if he is doing this free of charge.
The more I look the more I see people using the real thing and I do love a conspiracy theory myself.
I do applaud your efforts Tom, but it is what you are paid to do and you need to keep working hard.
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But isn't every bats biggest market the club cricketer? Are you worried that the MMi might only be seen as a novelty bat and will only be bought once and there will be no repeat business and early sales numbers wont be a true reflection of how things will actually go for your company?
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As Matty has said in the interview they're keen for it to become a partnership between The Hayden Way and Mongoose. Read into that as you wish Mike.
Course I'm paid to do it, but I could be doing something a hell of a lot easier and less stressful (70hr week last week, latest night finished at 6am the following morning). It would be much easier restickering a few standard bats, selling a couple and slagging off a few brands on the forum. But I'd much rather take on a huge challenge with a product I believe in. I may well finish up looking a complete berk, but at least I had the (No Swearing Please) and gave it a shot.
Having already seen repeat orders from clubs and players I'm not too bothered about it being a novelty. Once you adjust to it and have that 20% more power it would hope it will be difficult to switch back. The biggest challenge is changing consumer trends not maintaining them.
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I'll have to send mine back to you then as it is less powerful than my match bat...
I used to do 70 hours a week and then the cricket bats on top of that so a little hard work shouldn't stress you too much Tom, you don't have a young family to support so won't know too much about real stress until you're a little older and wiser. You started the forum as a place to debate all things cricket so should be last person to get offended by an opinion unless it is a little too close to the knuckle. Your problem is you are poacher turned gamekeeper, if you enjoy reading praise you must also accept criticism too, cannot have a one sided debate.
I do love it when you get all chewy and try to have a sly dig at me, it makes me smile and that's a good thing.
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Come on, we're trying to do something different. It may not take off in the long run or be fantastic in your opinion, but at least appreciate that?
P.S Why did you copy the bats if you don't rate them?
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Hand on heart I do think you do a fantastic job and I do really like the idea of the Mongoose, but the truth is that I feel the need to pour a little cold water on some of the over the top claims. The reasons for that Tom are that I have 20 extra years on you and have made many mistakes and know I'll make more, but I try to learn, at every opportunity. Marketing is just that, and I understand the background of Marcus and he does a great job, number one in the industry. I feel that there is something of real value in Mongoose, that is why I have been talking to people Marcus approached for financial support about you guys. I think Mongoose could have a future in the cricket world, but with a tweak, I may be proved right, I may be proved wrong, who knows what the outcome will be?
I'd also like to say that I'd give you a job tomorrow in case people think our banter is personal. I know how hard and well you work and would gladly get you onboard my little venture without a moments thought.
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I've never copied them, mine are much better, they are still sat here untouched if you want to see why, you are more than welcome to have them anytime to test.
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Lets have a look at your version then Mike as i don't remember seeing them.
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They were made for consideration by Mongoose and I did put them up by accident one night and took them back down again.
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Lets see then bud.
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They are not for public viewing, I'd like Tom to broaden his knowledge base and have a look at them, he wants people to stop being traditional so hopefully he will be as good at his word and open his mind to them.
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Not for public viewing ? ok what ever.
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there just same as a mongoose but with the splice in the handle iirc.
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The mongoose has a splice in the handle
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I think we all know where the splice of the Mongoose is located bud.
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Seedy clearly doesnt, i wasnt just randomly stating that... bud
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Tom,
Can i just say that Mongoose is a awesome brand. Symonds is using the Mongoose Gear now and it looks fantastic :) I Really do hope you carry on signing more players and hope you have a good year :) P.S Loving the Red Cor3 Gloves :)
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Harsha Bhogle: But a little bird told me that your son plays with a Mongoose bat.
Steve Waugh: Yes, he actually used it before Matthew Hayden. Hayden stole the idea from him. He has had it since last year, Stuart Law gave it to him. I was in England with the family last year watching the Lord's Test and Stuart was showing people the Mongoose bat, so my young guy picked it up and thought it was pretty good. And Stuart sent me the bat couple of months later, so [my son] was playing the under-10 cricket with the Mongoose bat. He hit a couple of long sixes and all the kids wanted to look at the bat. So it's quite funny to now see Hayden use it on the big stage.
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on a slightly different note, I have just been sent an email with this Mongoose Ad, is it me or does this bat have a visible splice in? happy to be told I am wrong, but if it does, it rather defeats the USP of the bat!
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/thegoose.jpg)
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Yes it certainly looks like a splice in that picture. Although, I think the reasoning for this is due to the height of Matthew Hayden? Something about they have to have a mini-splice, but this looks like a few size splice. I am sure someone will clear it up.
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ian blackwell is also now sponsered
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Is chandimal the sri-lankan i spy with a mongoose tom?
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Think you mean Kapugedera....
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ah o.k, is he a new signing or have i missed a trick here?
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Yes he is, has been mentioned in the thread before...
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thanks choppy :)
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Yup, and he didnt do Mongoose any harm with that last ball six today!! 37 off 16....ppffffftt!! (I'm an Indian fan)