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General Cricket => World Cricket => Australia => Topic started by: brokenbat on November 19, 2021, 05:21:35 AM
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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/tim-paine-quits-as-australia-captain-after-sending-explicit-messages-to-female-co-worker-1290071 (https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/tim-paine-quits-as-australia-captain-after-sending-explicit-messages-to-female-co-worker-1290071)
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I reckon CA had this up their sleeve, then when the time was right (and Paine had served his purpose) they threaten to release the messages and force Paine to quit, leaving them free to bring in a proper Batter Keeper for the Ashes.
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I reckon CA had this up their sleeve, then when the time was right (and Paine had served his purpose) they threaten to release the messages and force Paine to quit, leaving them free to bring in a proper Batter Keeper for the Ashes.
What?
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Seems a strange decision all round to me as CA are fully aware and a panel cleared him but he is resigning due to this, Jump before pusher I feel.
Personally I’m not best pleased as Aus can now pick a keeper that can A) score runs B) use DRS properly ffs.
Bloke was a useless batsmen, avg keeper and captain but steered aus through a challenging period I guess
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Now England have even less chance of winning a test :(
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They've said he's still in the squad, just not skipper. Does seem very bizarre, especially considering that the investigation was already done and concluded he'd done nothing wrong.
Have to feel a bit sorry for him as it sounds like the CA employee in question is lashing out because she's been accused of theft.
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Seems a strange decision all round to me as CA are fully aware and a panel cleared him but he is resigning due to this, Jump before pusher I feel.
Personally I’m not best pleased as Aus can now pick a keeper that can A) score runs B) use DRS properly ffs.
Bloke was a useless batsmen, avg keeper and captain but steered aus through a challenging period I guess
Absolutely this.
Of the other keepers.... Josh Philippe is currently 2nd highest Shield run scorer averaging 62, Jimmy Pierson is averaging 53 having scored 2 hundreds. Carey only has 148 runs @ 29.
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Cummins looks to be the captain for now.
First bowler to be captain for 60-odd years.
I do wonder why they don’t give it back to Steve Smith. He’s served his time, was a good captain and still very well respected as a phenomenal cricketer. If he’s still in the team after what went on during his captaincy, then surely there’s no real difference.
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Was Smith actually a good captain or was he just a phenomenal player who made up for his side's deficiencies? Don't recall him being tactically brilliant and he doesn't come across as an excellent man manager.
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They can't go back to Smith,surely? Yes he's served his 'leadership ban' or whatever but come on. Give it to a fast bowler for a change.
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Was Smith actually a good captain or was he just a phenomenal player who made up for his side's deficiencies? Don't recall him being tactically brilliant and he doesn't come across as an excellent man manager.
I remember during Paine's reign and after Smith had served his ban, Smith was essentially doing the captaining and I guess they lost a fair few tests. Notably at the Gabba
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There seems to be a common issue where a scandal is only a scandal if it’s public knowledge and therefore subject to everyone and anyone making a moral judgement.
Paine was cleared of any serious wrongdoing earlier why should it be any different now?
Unless after the Smith Bancroft Warner cheating episode CA could not sack Paine straight after that as they would look silly.
There’s no way Australia would want to change Captains 3 weeks before the Ashes.
It’s a bit strange, there could of course be as yet undisclosed information about it
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Public disclosure is a key component of the definition of scandal!
Agree that as he was cleared back when it happened 4 years ago, and as it seems his wife and children are still with him it's been accepted there too, it seems ridiculous that he should have to resign the Captaincy now.
Unless CA didn't know back then, which seems equally ridiculous.
Timing is awful, and smells of media doing an exposé timed to sell maximum copies. Cnuts.
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AUS to benefit. Better keeper batsmen in their ranks. And probably better options for captain too.
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What's going on with Wade? Where is he landing?
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Have to feel a bit sorry for him as it sounds like the CA employee in question is lashing out because she's been accused of theft.
This is news.
The entire resignation seemed bizarre after supposed investigation and Payne's clearance. I guess, CA simply doesn't want any scandal around Ashes and Payne is replaceable.
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This is news.
The entire resignation seemed bizarre after supposed investigation and Payne's clearance. I guess, CA simply doesn't want any scandal around Ashes and Payne is replaceable.
According to some articles she reported his messages a year later after she was accused of theft. Believe the Daily Mail covered that aspect in a bit more depth.
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What's going on with Wade? Where is he landing?
I don't follow AUS cricket but I would have thought he was the natural replacement for Paine?
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I don't follow AUS cricket but I would have thought he was the natural replacement for Paine?
His stock will have rose for sure after the T20 semi final win of which he was key
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I don't follow AUS cricket but I would have thought he was the natural replacement for Paine?
They've got plenty other options. Carey would have been my first bet based on having played for their white ball sides quite a bit.
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According to some articles she reported his messages a year later after she was accused of theft. Believe the Daily Mail covered that aspect in a bit more depth.
I haven't seen the article. So, it was a deflection-tactic by the woman (accused of theft) and it has cost Tim Paine his career 3 years later.
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I haven't seen the article. So, it was a deflection-tactic by the woman (accused of theft) and it has cost Tim Paine his career 3 years later.
That's one way of seeing it. Personally I'd be disinclined to feel sorry for someone who cheated on their spouse with a colleague and had to step down from a prestigious appointment because of the disrepute it brought.
He hasn't lost his career, he's just lost a prestigious role that I'm sure he valued. Bear in mind also that he hasn't and won't lose his family which some might say is deserved for cheating on your wife/husband...
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That's one way of seeing it. Personally I'd be disinclined to feel sorry for someone who cheated on their spouse...
His wife forgave him after the inquiry, no?
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That's one way of seeing it. Personally I'd be disinclined to feel sorry for someone who cheated on their spouse with a colleague and had to step down from a prestigious appointment because of the disrepute it brought.
He hasn't lost his career, he's just lost a prestigious role that I'm sure he valued. Bear in mind also that he hasn't and won't lose his family which some might say is deserved for cheating on your wife/husband...
Did he actually cheat on his wife? This is nowhere in the news.
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His wife forgave him after the inquiry, no?
Seems to have been a confidential internal inquiry so she wouldn't know about it unless he told her
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Seems to have been a confidential internal inquiry so she wouldn't know about it unless he told her
Definitely a technicality shielded his wife from the sordid details. :D :D :D
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Did he actually cheat on his wife? This is nowhere in the news.
He was sexting another woman behind his wife's back, I think that's fairly clear.
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CA confirm Smith is one of the candidates to take over.
Does that send the right messages or has he served his ban and the slate is clean.
I wonder what we would think if it was an English captain
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CA confirm Smith is one of the candidates to take over.
Does that send the right messages or has he served his ban and the slate is clean.
I wonder what we would think if it was an English captain
Good article on the contenders for the captaincy
https://inews.co.uk/sport/cricket/australia-next-captain-odds-test-tim-paine-resign-pat-cummins-steve-smith-1310168
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CA confirm Smith is one of the candidates to take over.
Does that send the right messages or has he served his ban and the slate is clean.
I wonder what we would think if it was an English captain
If its the best thing for the team then why not. Wrong message? Depends if he truely has changed.
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Think it’s becoming clearer some media kept bringing up this story with Paine and it was likely to be made public.
Having gone thru the process and being cleared in 2018 it seems he accepted the media still
had something over him.
Not nice, but our press are just the same.