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Title: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: alba caerulea on March 01, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
Its been a bit lost amongst the NZ Tests but the series started today and for the first time in quite a while Wood and Archer are playing together in an international fixture. Bangladesh 209 all out. Lovely.

Despite the Test just finishing I would actually say that Wood, Woakes, Archer, Ali and Rashid is probably Englands best white ball attack. 4 of them are double WC winners and the 5th puts the fear of God into everyone he bowls at. Add Curran as a 6th in England or a spinner like Jacks or Livingstone whens its turning and its a very dependable unit.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Jimbo on March 01, 2023, 10:01:18 AM
Conditions dependent, I'd throw Topley into the mix as well. Been very effective in the absence of Archer.

Spin attack looked very disciplined today which is a great sign.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Twelfth Man on March 01, 2023, 10:42:25 AM
Sky Sports team mentioning how on earth they pick the 15 man squad from this side, YJB and the guys in the Test Team. Be interesting to see how we fit everybody in but not a bad predicament to be in.

I’m the biggest Roy fan going but I don’t think he’s going to get a sniff come the World Cup.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Bungle on March 01, 2023, 10:44:58 AM
Sky Sports team mentioning how on earth they pick the 15 man squad from this side, YJB and the guys in the Test Team. Be interesting to see how we fit everybody in but not a bad predicament to be in.

I’m the biggest Roy fan going but I don’t think he’s going to get a sniff come the World Cup.

Yeah no way he gets in at the moment unfortunately, he has been on a bad run of form for quite some time now.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Jimbo on March 01, 2023, 10:46:41 AM
Roy still doesn't look good against left arm spin, can't see him being picked on spinning wickets, especially not when everyone will be picking SLA bowlers.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Manormanic on March 01, 2023, 11:19:41 AM
Sky Sports team mentioning how on earth they pick the 15 man squad from this side, YJB and the guys in the Test Team. Be interesting to see how we fit everybody in but not a bad predicament to be in.

I’m the biggest Roy fan going but I don’t think he’s going to get a sniff come the World Cup.

Its easy, if Stokes makes himself available and is fit to bowl at least a part of his allocation.

Bairstow, Duckett, Root, Brook, Buttler, Stokes, Ali, Curran, Rashid, Wood, Archer plus Woakes, Topley, Malan/Hales and a reserve spinner, either Ahmed or more likely Dawson.

Becomes immensely difficult if Stokes stays retired, or cannot bowl.  Then you are stuck either banking on Ali plus Root for a full 10 (and any cover our injury prone quicks require) or playing the extra bowler and batting Sam at seven, which feels a spot too high for him.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Buzz on March 01, 2023, 11:21:43 AM
England in a spot of bother with this chase.

I also think Eng will have to move on from Jason after this tour. Tough as he was the catalyst for Morgan's revolution.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Alvaro on March 01, 2023, 12:30:23 PM
You do wonder what klind of player Bairstow will be when he comes back with one leg longer than the other.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: dantsw13 on March 01, 2023, 06:06:46 PM
Malans agency is getting better and better. This type of pitch/opposition has long been Englands downfall.

From Bangladesh, I was very impressed with them in the field today. Extremely sharp.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: thegowerwaft on March 01, 2023, 07:39:54 PM
Just watched the highlights. What a game.

Totally agree about the fielding, @dantsw13
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: edge on March 02, 2023, 06:40:27 AM
Malan is repeating the trick of forcing his way into the t20 team all over again isn't he, how long before he's the world #1 ODI batsman too? Joking aside, he's surely opening the batting at the world cup.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: cricketbadger on March 02, 2023, 10:27:39 AM
You do wonder what klind of player Bairstow will be when he comes back with one leg longer than the other.

Will make his running between the wickets harder just going round in circles
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: FattusCattus on March 02, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
I have to watch the highlights on YouTube or similar and most of the presentations are shocking, and about 5 mins long.

Does anyone have a link to a decent source of highlights?
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: six and out on March 02, 2023, 05:45:58 PM
I have to watch the highlights on YouTube or similar and most of the presentations are shocking, and about 5 mins long.

Does anyone have a link to a decent source of highlights?


Highlights are on the Skysports website

'Magnificent Malan ton steers England to victory in tense chase'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12822954 (http://www.skysports.com/share/12822954)
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: thegowerwaft on March 02, 2023, 06:05:43 PM
I have to watch the highlights on YouTube or similar and most of the presentations are shocking, and about 5 mins long.

Does anyone have a link to a decent source of highlights?

Clicked on what I thought were highlights the other day and it was some weird computer game version of a one dayer. Really bizarre.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: six and out on March 03, 2023, 08:19:55 AM
Roy currently 100 not out in the 2nd ODI.

Picking the 5 batting slots (Buttler being the 6th) in the World Cup team is going to be very difficult.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Jimbo on March 03, 2023, 08:22:53 AM
Been a lot more impressed with Roy today. Took his time getting the pace of the pitch and getting his eye in and reaping the rewards now he's set. Not erased all doubt but positive signs that he's adapting his approach for subcontinental conditions.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: edge on March 03, 2023, 08:34:47 AM
Roy currently 100 not out in the 2nd ODI.

Picking the 5 batting slots (Buttler being the 6th) in the World Cup team is going to be very difficult.
All being well with Bairstow's recovery, there's one too many top 4 players (Roy, Malan, Bairstow, Root, Brook). Think that's the only issue really, 6 needs to be someone who can bowl so even if Stokes doesn't play it's not like they'll put an extra specialist there. Good to see Roy and Malan responding well, going to be even more pressure on the few ODIs in September! By my reckoning 12/15 are nailed on for the WC squad, if Stokes plays there's only two spots left.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Bungle on March 03, 2023, 11:42:40 AM
Clicked on what I thought were highlights the other day and it was some weird computer game version of a one dayer. Really bizarre.

I find this quite strange, I would suppose they do it to get views except it just wastes everybody's time. They simulate a game of Cricket 22 of the two teams playing and record it and upload it to youtube and name the title "highlights" of the game. Very odd!
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: jonny77 on March 03, 2023, 01:19:38 PM
I'd still pick Bairstow over Roy and Malan if he gets back and fires. Livingston would surely come into the mix too when fully fit?
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Jimbo on March 03, 2023, 01:30:22 PM
Livingston is more of a T20 player IMO. Bang on about Bairstow though.
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: mo_town on March 03, 2023, 03:34:40 PM
Why James Vince, why? Why do you always fail when you put on England colors?
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: jonny77 on March 03, 2023, 03:45:41 PM
Livingston is more of a T20 player IMO. Bang on about Bairstow though.

I was just gonna say I'd find space for him, but then tried to and found  it very difficult! Here would be my team. Nice balance if Stokes is fit.....

Roy/Salt/Malan/Hales
Bairstow
Root
Brook
Butler
Stokes
Ali/Livingston
Curran
Wood
Rashid
Archer
Title: Re: Ban v Eng ODIs
Post by: Jimbo on March 03, 2023, 03:48:38 PM
I'd have Jacks in ahead of Livi as the apprentice Moeen.