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Title: WTC final
Post by: edge on June 08, 2023, 09:31:28 AM
No topic for this, couldn't believe it!

Looks a bit like India have made a poor call at the toss, possibly partly due to picking the extra seamer? The Oval not exactly a traditional bowl first ground.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: Buzz on June 08, 2023, 01:16:50 PM
Ashwin must have really peed off the Indian management.
Just mental that they left him out and bowled first. Terrible decision.

Anyway Aussies batted OK. I think they have left runs out there.

Indian bowlers looked a bit short of a proper gallop.

Very good hundred from Travis Head
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: mo_town on June 08, 2023, 01:34:27 PM
The 'green' pitch fooled India into dropping Ashwin and also bowling first. Having said that, Aus really did bat well and survive the tough phases. Surely, Aus are favorites after that 1st innings score.

What I cannot understand is the choice of venue. Why do they need to play in Eng? Ideally a home/away 2 match series would be more appropriate. If the same match was being played in SL, would Aus still have the advantage?
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: Buzz on June 08, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Aus are in the UK due to the Ashes and the IPL goes on for so long this is the only window for the match, and logistically then it has to be in the UK.
I would say the Oval is a good neutral venue.
Top pitch with loads of local Indians and Aussies.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: mo_town on June 08, 2023, 03:19:21 PM
Aus showing how you should bowl on a helpful track!
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on June 08, 2023, 06:30:55 PM
Not sure of how much relevance it is really, but Surrey won their last two champ games at the Oval having won the toss and fielded.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: ppccopener on June 08, 2023, 06:35:51 PM
I’m often surprised how often teams look at the pitch and seem to rule out overhead conditions. There may of been some movement from India’s seamers but warm dry sun and test quality batsmen is bat first.

A bit ominous for our test matches Smith and Head look on form.

For this game I just think they got the toss wrong and how Ashwin is left out again is baffling.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: edge on June 09, 2023, 06:15:58 AM
Second day has shown up the difference in quality of the pace attacks, India's seamers just aren't top level (in English conditions).
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: Buzz on June 09, 2023, 06:43:26 AM
Bumrah not being there is a big miss.
The other issue is this is too close to the IPL and the players aren't ready for test cricket.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: rickjames on June 09, 2023, 11:57:49 AM
Think that session has shown how easily you can rattle Australia - really poor with the ball. Cummins getting another wicket cum no-ball then throwing away a review says it all
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: mo_town on June 09, 2023, 01:40:46 PM
So many balls hitting the batsmen on the hands/gloves. Cant remember the last time a pitch was like this!
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: edge on June 09, 2023, 02:08:26 PM
So many balls hitting the batsmen on the hands/gloves. Cant remember the last time a pitch was like this!
Rob Key's obviously had a word with the Oval ground staff :D
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: rickjames on June 09, 2023, 02:09:14 PM
Marnus is certainly getting an examination from Siraj
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: adb club cricketer on June 10, 2023, 02:14:33 PM
Green catch off Gill is clear ground, cant understand how that be given out
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: ppccopener on June 10, 2023, 02:27:46 PM
Waiting for the clip on bbc text. The only still image on their now looks out. Fingers between turf and ball.

However it’s only one angle
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: adb club cricketer on June 10, 2023, 02:50:42 PM
(https://imgpile.com/images/9VTQb3.jpg)

Ball touching ground, both fingers not directly underneath but beside ball at 45 degrees and this pic not even at lowest point of trajectory when the ball went down and fingers were initially pointing downwards. Ridiculous decision
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: Buzz on June 10, 2023, 05:52:46 PM
Seems like a totally clean catch.

(https://i.postimg.cc/g2DHdbXj/20230610-184953.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d0VmVNrB/20230610-185017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zhJtftM)

 Oh.

Also the quality of that second picture is amazing.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: thegowerwaft on June 10, 2023, 07:09:54 PM
That last pic is amazing quality.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: LEACHY48 on June 10, 2023, 08:58:25 PM
Clearly the wrong decision made there,

Clear contact between ball and ground
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: thegowerwaft on June 11, 2023, 09:36:35 AM
Right, folks. Who has got this? Aus or India? Stage set for a Kholi masterclass.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: golders on June 11, 2023, 09:42:16 AM
No idea and certainly won’t be placing a bet either. Hope it turns into an absolute classic!

Lyon will be a real handful tho as pitch looks pretty worn now.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: Kulli on June 11, 2023, 09:54:45 AM
Right, folks. Who has got this? Aus or India? Stage set for a Kholi masterclass.
If india chase this it’ll be one of the all time great chases/victories.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: thegowerwaft on June 11, 2023, 10:08:11 AM
Oh dear. I think this could dribble out to a disappointment...
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: thegowerwaft on June 11, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
😲 next stop... The Ashes.

Aus were a pretty impressive unit throughout.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: Buzz on June 11, 2023, 12:40:37 PM
I genuinely think if India had batted first and picked Ashwin the game would have been a lot closer
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: thegowerwaft on June 11, 2023, 12:50:01 PM
Agree, @Buzz

Big miss to have no selected him.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: SLA on June 12, 2023, 10:48:30 AM
Good decision - out all day long - fingers clearly under the ball. If you quibbled over every low catch where the ball may or may not have brushed a few blades of grass between the fingers you might as well just give every low catch not out because that happens every. single. time.
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: Warneymonster on June 12, 2023, 11:45:04 AM
i thought it looked a clean catch straight away. but how many of those got overturned because of the 'soft signal' and fore shortening of the camera angle.

find it slightly amusing rohit asking for a 3 match final, w0nder if he'd say that had they won?
Title: Re: WTC final
Post by: mo_town on June 13, 2023, 09:28:52 AM
The catch aside, India's obsession with IPL cost them. BBL happens every year with tests being played in parallel and the priorities are clear there. Why didnt BCCI force IPL teams to rest the key players and let them travel to Eng for proper prep? The lack of practice clearly showed. Well done to Aus but they did reveal chinks in their armour. I have a feeling this Ashes series will go down in history as one of the most exciting ones! *fingers crossed*