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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: FattusCattus on July 07, 2024, 09:04:21 AM
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Any opinions on a staring line-up for Weds game - not sure the weather's up to much, but would still like to see a spinner included?
Also is Stokes going in as the 4th seamer?
I'm guessing -
Crawley
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Stokes
Smith
Woakes
Bashir
Atkinson
Anderson
Would rather see another young pacer in rather than Woakes, but that would leave a rather terrible tail!
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Bashir would be batting below Atkinson surely but otherwise I like that side.
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I'd be surprised if Bashir plays.
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I think the team will look like this...
Crawley
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Stokes
Smith
Laurence
Woakes
Potts
Anderson
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I think the team will look like this...
Crawley
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Stokes
Smith
Laurence
Woakes
Potts
Anderson
More like it.
* Lawrence.
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I think the team will look like this...
Crawley
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Stokes
Smith
Laurence
Woakes
Potts
Anderson
Given the weather that seems more logical with Root to bowl spin if needed but seeing as most likely to be under covers for the next 2 days my guess it forth day patrons won’t see much cricket regardless of who wins
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I was at an event at Lords last Friday (5th July) and they have pre-sold over 6000 seats for day 5!!!!
I think that's quite optimistic 🤣🤣
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I was at an event at Lords last Friday (5th July) and they have pre-sold over 6000 seats for day 5!!!!
I think that's quite optimistic 🤣🤣
That is mad.
How will lords manage the need for Jimmy to finish with a 5 for and for a road to get the game to day five!??
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Eng team announced, Gus and Jamie get debuts.
1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Harry Brook
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Jamie Smith
8. Chris Woakes
9. Gus Atkinson
10. Shoaib Bashir
11. James Anderson
Am very surprised Shoaib and Gus are playing I have to say
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Same. First poster was right!
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In recent years all England teams have had the feeling of hunch picks, this one more so than most. Is Smith really a better keeper, or batsman, than Robinson? Is Atkinson really international class? Is the fact that Bashir can't get a game for his county telling noone anything?
Chances are, this being a callow West Indies side, two out of three of them will have decent games - Smith after all is long term international class even if a questionable pick. It will make for an interesting watch.
In other news...how precisely are we going to cope without Jimmy? I'm amazed they have fobbed him off so quick rather than gradually transferring selection.
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I sort of agree.
Jimmy has only been good in the first innings for a while though. I think his time has come.
Atkinson I am not sure about.
On form Jordan Clark is miles ahead of Woakes now, but I am very happy for Surrey to keep him thanks. Woakes is a Lords specialist as far as I can tell. But he is also very experienced..
Smith is a future 3 format international and is incredible. As a batter. He is being shoehorned into the team to get him game time. No one seriously thinks he is a better keeper than Foakes, Ollie Robinson or a host of other county keepers.
Bashir I think we should be picking. He is a talented bright bowler and needs game time.
For me you pick two of Bashir, Atkinson and Smith, not all three. I would have picked Potts as I love how he just keeps coming in and he will be a solid 8 in time.
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I agree Anderson probably isn't making the Ashes in 18 months time, and I am not saying I would keep him beyond the end of the season; but on the other hand, we know Woakes is an England only selection, and they have clearly decided that the other Ollie Robinson is not getting the message on fitness. Appreciate that Wood will come in later in the Summer, but with Fisher, Tongue, Overton and Mahmood injured it does leave a light selection of options from Test Two.
Atkinson is an odd one - having seen what he could do on a lively Scarbados deck a couple of years ago, I totally agree he is an exciting prospect. But again, and tellingly, he is an exciting prospect who does not get in Surrey's best team.
And Smith...whilst I almost agree with your Brown Tinted view of his potential, the same could reasonably be said of the other actual keepers...
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The whole thing is a mess.
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Strong Surrey Strong England
This Windies batting lineup is garbage
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Windies are smaller brand bat heaven… nice to see Neon get that ridiculous review in super slow mo!!!
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Strong Surrey Strong England
This Windies batting lineup is garbage
Without wishing to be mean, Surrey's (full) 2nd XI would probably beat this West Indies team.
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Without wishing to be mean, Surrey's (full) 2nd XI would probably beat this West Indies team.
Especially with Gus in it.
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Pope pads look good there the Tempesta colour way but seem to be knee roll of shockwave ?
I also liked the look of the new helmet Anderson rocked in the Nets
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Future is bright with Atkinson and others in line to step up! Was superb today, kept it simple and kept it quick. Good to see Pope a bit more positive and less frenetic as he started.
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Test Cricket needs a 2 division system. One sided test matches are doing more harm than good to a format which is already dying in most countries.
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These Windies bowlers look so undercooked
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Test Cricket needs a 2 division system. One sided test matches are doing more harm than good to a format which is already dying in most countries.
Which of these teams are you suggesting should be in the 2nd tier?
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At what point does county cricket become stronger than test cricket?
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At what point does county cricket become stronger than test cricket?
When all the best internationals play in it, atm it's just the best batters that come over for small stints.
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Which of these teams are you suggesting should be in the 2nd tier?
England are bottom of the world championship rankings, (thanks to 19points in deductions) so I really don't think this will help.
The reality is that the Windies haven't played enough warm up games. The same as many other tours.
But there isn't room in the calendar for everything.
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West Indian bowling is not too bad generally. They have proved they can bowl well against other teams, especially AJ.
But as Buzz said, they look a bit rusty and need more warm-up games.
Batting is where they seem to struggle in Tests to be fair.
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Windies discipline with the ball wasn't good enough really, far too many hit me balls. Definitely in part due to rust, but equally I would say a consequence of players tailoring their skillset to short form cricket.
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Test Cricket needs a 2 division system. One sided test matches are doing more harm than good to a format which is already dying in most countries.
Test cricket in the main is a loss making exercise unless India, England or Australia is involved. Moving to a 2-tier system would kill off test cricket entirely in a number of countries
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The reality is that the Windies haven't played enough warm up games. The same as many other tours.
But there isn't room in the calendar for everything.
To be fair, their one warm up game will have ben pretty dispiriting, their attack being flogged by Will Luxton who, despite being a really great prospect, is nowhere near Yorkshire's best XI. Having watched some of the footage, it did not seem to me that they were taking it all that seriously.
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Test two starting tomorrow.
Hopefully it will be a better contest although Trent Bridge looks a bit green.
The pavilion will be renamed the Stuart Broad pavilion which is a lovely touch.
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for the sake of test cricket we need to have more games going into day 5 with all results on the table. my fear is the gap between strong and medium test sides is getting bigger and bigger, possibly due to ICC allocation of money and (understandable) focus on white ball money.
its that or they will need to start games on a friday to guarantee the saturday and sunday punters see a game
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for the sake of test cricket we need to have more games going into day 5 with all results on the table. my fear is the gap between strong and medium test sides is getting bigger and bigger, possibly due to ICC allocation of money and (understandable) focus on white ball money.
its that or they will need to start games on a friday to guarantee the saturday and sunday punters see a game
I agree, a Friday start seems more desirable if games struggle to get to a 4th/5th day. Presume it is tradition that dictates Thursday starts (albeit we now get some Wed starts)? However, if it two "strong" sides playing, then the business end should be by 4th day so you would want that to be on a weekend. Does this risk oppostion being "put down" even before the series starts by virtue of starting day being moved to a Friday? Another psychological advantage to the stronger home team?
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Crawley's out.
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Duckett flying though.
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I understand the reasoning behind dumping Anderson and starting the planning now for the Ashes next winter but it is hard to see in what basis Chris Woakes is being picked here. He was never an option outside of England at his best and he is now bowling at the sort of pace Derek Underwood used to fit them down at. This surely was the time to identify a candidate to bat at 8 next winter and give them a summer against modest opposition to settle in the team
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I understand the reasoning behind dumping Anderson and starting the planning now for the Ashes next winter but it is hard to see in what basis Chris Woakes is being picked here. He was never an option outside of England at his best and he is now bowling at the sort of pace Derek Underwood used to fit them down at. This surely was the time to identify a candidate to bat at 8 next winter and give them a summer against modest opposition to settle in the team
I'm sure it was done on purpose by the Eng management to allow generation of lots of podcasts and discussion on this forum, as the sole reason! :D
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Ahhh! The glorious, brainless, exciting, moronic batting style continues!
Doesn't anyone want to get a ton?
I'm all for biffage, but let's get 400 on the board eh?
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(Doesn't anyone want to get a ton?)
Oh good - yes they do!
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Root and Brook both awful shots, other dismissals have been pretty decent bowling. Just a shame the Windies have been so inconsistent.
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You question the future of test cricket when the once benchmark West Indies seem so poor/disinterested.
If a no hoper like Ollie Pope is conning a century it devalues the entire sport.
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No hoper like Ollie Pope. 😂😂😂😂😂
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No hoper like Ollie Pope. 😂😂😂😂😂
I was thinking that same! :D
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Gray Nicolls No Hoper Performance.
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Gray Nicolls No Hoper Performance.
Nohopernova.
Wish I had that little hope when I stroll out.
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No hoper like Ollie Pope. 😂😂😂😂😂
I find Surrey fans as embarrassing as Queenslanders…
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The late Tony Greig said some nonsense about making the West Indies ‘grovel’ once upon a time.
The Poms were made to grovel today.
Lovely to see.
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Alright, own up. Who put 50p in the 'Cliche Aussie windup merchant' box? 😅
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Strange bunch on here…state facts and get insults thrown at me…
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It's raining tiles at Trent Bridge!
Mind the tiles, Shamar!
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Bowling looks a bit "off the top of my head"?
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Although...