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Title: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: espocrespo on September 01, 2010, 05:05:12 PM
Anyone been watching gareth andrew go crazy with his mongoose
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Post by: maxy1 on September 01, 2010, 05:08:03 PM
yea been loving it went from 50 to 100 in 16 shots or something , awesome !
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Post by: peplow on September 01, 2010, 05:08:30 PM
was awesome to be honest, would love to try one at some point!!
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Post by: maxy1 on September 01, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
iv got a core 3 series 1 , goes reli nicely , shame its 2 heavy for me :(
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Post by: peplow on September 01, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
would buy yours but i've had a 2lb10 cor and found it too heavy unfortunately!
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Post by: petehosk on September 01, 2010, 05:23:19 PM
I used to have a top of the range mmi3 custom pro but I didn't like it anywhere close to my joker so sold it
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Tom on September 01, 2010, 05:25:50 PM
You just didn't know how to use it!
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: peplow on September 01, 2010, 05:34:03 PM
I used to have a top of the range mmi3 custom pro but I didn't like it anywhere close to my joker so sold it

very different bats arent they?

joker closer to a cor?
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Post by: petehosk on September 01, 2010, 05:37:04 PM
very different bats arent they?
joker closer to a cor?

Joker feels safer for all round shots. I play 50% back and 50% front.
For mmi you need to be more of a front foot player really.
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Canners on September 01, 2010, 05:42:50 PM

Gareth Andrew certainly knows how to use his one
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Post by: petehosk on September 01, 2010, 05:46:39 PM
On that batting surface with the poor bowling he cetainly used it well!
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Canners on September 01, 2010, 05:58:27 PM

do u think hed have got closer to the 200 mark if he was using a joker lol
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Post by: iand123 on September 01, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
I had a custom pro mmi3, felt lovely, but i have to agree with Tom, i didnt have a clue how to use it (or im just not good enough to use it). Sold it on eBay to some guy who wanted to make 100m for his biggest six!
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Alvaro on September 01, 2010, 06:25:44 PM
(http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/121200/121282.jpg)

looks quality kit all round - pads look great in black
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Post by: petehosk on September 01, 2010, 06:27:15 PM
do u think hed have got closer to the 200 mark if he was using a joker lol
???
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Post by: Black Cat Cricket on September 01, 2010, 08:22:37 PM
do u think hed have got closer to the 200 mark if he was using a joker lol

Definitely.
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Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 01, 2010, 08:30:38 PM
Good rivalry lol
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Post by: alexrickyponting on September 01, 2010, 09:48:51 PM
i was there in the pavilion, andrew batted very well but i have to say i didnt see any exceptional hitting tbh, nothing like what i was expecting from the goose - RHB hit it just as hard and as far with his addidas :-[
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Post by: peplow on September 01, 2010, 09:53:23 PM
must have been a good'un to go to mate!

but remember there is a slight difference in class of batsman....maybe it may have been different is rhb had the goose or andrews had the adidas?
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Talisman on September 01, 2010, 10:00:02 PM
Gareth used to open the batting and bowling for England U16, he was sponsored by GN then and everyone had high hopes of him carrying on at that level but he has done well recently after a quiet time with Worcestershire since being released by Somerset.
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Post by: peplow on September 01, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
Why are worcs putting him @ number 9, its mental he seems better than many that bat above him!
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Post by: Tom on September 01, 2010, 10:01:17 PM
Looking past the bats for the moment, Alex there's a slight difference in quality between the 2. One is a number 9 bowler who scored his first ltd overs 50 only last week, the other is an opening batsman and captain.

It's like saying Broads innings last week was unremarkable as Brian Lara scored 400 once.
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Post by: peplow on September 01, 2010, 10:02:57 PM
Looking past the bats for the moment, Alex there's a slight difference in quality between the 2. One is a number 9 bowler who bats a little, the other is an opening batsman and captain.

It's like saying Broads innings last week was unremarkable as Brian Lara scored 400 once.

my thoughts exactly. I do think he is better than a number 9 though, but not as talented as rhb, it would be interesting to see rhb with the goose or andrews with the adidas to see the results!
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Post by: Tom on September 01, 2010, 10:06:02 PM
Agree with Talisman though, there is definitely a lot of potential in Gareth and we're very fortunate to have him using the Mongoose range.

It was a great innings by Gareth and whilst it showcased the MMi3 brilliantly it would be unfair to put it all down to the bat.
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Talisman on September 01, 2010, 10:16:36 PM
He was always thought of as a future star, sometimes people develop later than expected. He is a lot better than a no9, as is Broad.

Bats are tricky beasts, maybe he owes the entire innings to the Mongoose, maybe he would have got a double century with any other bat, we will never know.
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Canners on September 02, 2010, 05:18:45 AM
Definitely.

haha great banter......

what about if he was using a voodoo lol
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Post by: alexrickyponting on September 02, 2010, 08:38:10 AM
Looking past the bats for the moment, Alex there's a slight difference in quality between the 2. One is a number 9 bowler who scored his first ltd overs 50 only last week, the other is an opening batsman and captain.

It's like saying Broads innings last week was unremarkable as Brian Lara scored 400 once.
not saying it wasnt a good innings, i was just expecting to see the ball go a little further as it were. obviously RHB is a better batsman than Andrews but even Tremlett hit it about as far roughly. it was certainly fun to watch, i just didnt see anything that andrews most likely couldnt have done with a normal bat. his mongoose did sound very nice though
He was always thought of as a future star, sometimes people develop later than expected. He is a lot better than a no9, as is Broad.

Bats are tricky beasts, maybe he owes the entire innings to the Mongoose, maybe he would have got a double century with any other bat, we will never know.
well summarised

must have been a good'un to go to mate!

but remember there is a slight difference in class of batsman....maybe it may have been different is rhb had the goose or andrews had the adidas?
not the best, seeing surrey get hammered then start on track but be doomed to failure once davies,rhb,ramps and kp are out is quite frustrating cos spriegel,walters and co are (No Swearing Please) useless!
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Tom on September 02, 2010, 09:29:03 AM
The Tremlett and Andrew innings were completely different, one was a fun quick slog in a dead game and the other was proper cricket shots to build a huge total. Lets remember that Gareth Andrew came in at almost exactly the same position as Walters did for Surrey. Played sensibly to reach 50 off 41 balls and then powered on to 100 in only 17 more.
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Post by: Buzz on September 02, 2010, 09:31:42 AM
I still can't believe Walters played ahead of Jason Roy.
The Andrews innings was good value, as was the commentary from Mark Church on the innings - he was loving the "loose goose"!
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Post by: RichW on September 02, 2010, 09:40:07 AM
The oval is one of the largest playing surfaces in England and all of Andrews sixes cleared it with ease. Maybe he could have hit the ball further but that might have compromised the timing of the shot or made him loose his shape which could easily mean his mis hit or even missed the ball. You don't get any more runs for hitting the ball 20 rows back than you do for it only just reaching.
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Post by: petehosk on September 02, 2010, 09:48:26 AM
I did find some of the descriptions funny.
One of the commentators said it looked like an oar!

But the funniest was saying it looked like you could make pizzas with it.
The goose definitely causes a lot if discussions and opinions
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: alexrickyponting on September 02, 2010, 09:55:25 AM
The Tremlett and Andrew innings were completely different, one was a fun quick slog in a dead game and the other was proper cricket shots to build a huge total. Lets remember that Gareth Andrew came in at almost exactly the same position as Walters did for Surrey. Played sensibly to reach 50 off 41 balls and then powered on to 100 in only 17 more.
didnt say they were the same merely that tremlett was hitting it as far, andrews was a quality innings. im not and never will attempt to defend stuart walters, he has done hardly anything in 2nd team cricket yet was captain of surrey last year, has done nothing this year yet regularly plays ahead of what few talented youngsters we have e.g roy and walters and spriegel have pretty much blocked out laurie evans who has been scoring for fun in the 2's with little or no reward and has thus moved on.

The oval is one of the largest playing surfaces in England and all of Andrews sixes cleared it with ease. Maybe he could have hit the ball further but that might have compromised the timing of the shot or made him loose his shape which could easily mean his mis hit or even missed the ball. You don't get any more runs for hitting the ball 20 rows back than you do for it only just reaching.

fair enough about no more runs for it going 20 rows back than for it only just reaching, not all of his sixes reached it with ease. i counted 3(i think) that landed inches over the rope. isnt the 20% more power thingy of the mongoose partly meant to help mishits still go the distance?
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 02, 2010, 09:58:49 AM
Tremlett is 9ft 4 tho and his arms are therefore pretty long which effect momentum/force due to length of levers/fulcrum/pivot etc so no suprise he hits a long ball....i think its hard to quantify the performance of any bat due to the fact each one if different due to a natural material being used to make it from.
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Post by: alexrickyponting on September 02, 2010, 10:01:27 AM
im just going to agree with you tom, im still half asleep and that confused me :-[ :D
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Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 02, 2010, 10:06:12 AM
Im sure norbs will know alot more than me as its not my area of expertise when it comes to going into maths/physics....we touched on it in biomechanics during my degree in terms of the basics!!
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Post by: peplow on September 02, 2010, 10:15:50 AM
Yeah the longer his arms the more of a mechanical advantage he has
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Post by: Bez013 on September 02, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
Tremlett looks like he has a bit of extra muscle at the moment as well.

The thing is Gareth Andrew wasn't trying to smash the cover off the ball, he was timing it.

The straight six (I think off Schofield) easily went the distance and was pretty flat and he didn't appear to try to smash the ball.
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Post by: peplow on September 02, 2010, 10:21:19 AM
Also what impressed me was the fact there were very little mishits, no chances given really, just sustained hitting,
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Post by: Canners on September 02, 2010, 12:37:24 PM
all the shots looked very correct, some lovely drives

was very enjoyable to watch and some greatadvertising for the goose, i noticed he even mentioned it in his interview :)
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: petehosk on September 02, 2010, 12:41:31 PM
I do have a question for everyone.......
why has nobody mentioned Solanki's knock?
His shots were sublime, the ball went like a rocket, and it was the base on whch the whole win was built!
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Tom on September 02, 2010, 12:47:04 PM
Because no-one cares about Fearnley!  :P
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Post by: Buzz on September 02, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
Because no-one cares about Fearnley!

That is somewhat harsh. Dave (procricket) cares deeply about Fernley - as, in fact do most of those born in the 1970's, all of whom will have had a fernley (probably an Ian Botham Attack) as their first bat.
Solanki's innings was sensational, when he makes runs it looks very easy. I just which it wasn't always against Surrey  >:(
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Post by: petehosk on September 02, 2010, 12:52:56 PM
Considering his knock was the better of the two, then it is a little harsh!
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Post by: Tom on September 02, 2010, 12:55:14 PM
I said that tongue in cheek but in all honesty, the Mongoose and the bloke using it is always going to get more coverage and mentions than any other bat. Fearnley, Adidas or otherwise.

When I was walking around the Oval last night Mongoose in hand I was surrounded by people wanting to look at it, would it have been the same with Solanki's Fearnley?
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Post by: petehosk on September 02, 2010, 12:59:49 PM
No they wouldn't....but alas, that seems to be the way of the World!
Solanki's knock was excellent and pure class. No slogging, just gorgeous shots!

So I bet you would love to see the end of test matches too? Too old fashioned for you?
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Tom on September 02, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
What an earth are you on about?
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Canners on September 02, 2010, 01:09:29 PM
I do have a question for everyone.......
why has nobody mentioned Solanki's knock?
His shots were sublime, the ball went like a rocket, and it was the base on whch the whole win was built!

Solanki looked awesome, and to think we were talking about fernleys earlier lol
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Post by: petehosk on September 02, 2010, 01:21:45 PM
What an earth are you on about?

I'm glad you changed the tone from the first entry.
I have changed my entry several times as well. But to summarise, I admitted that the Goose was used very well in their innings. And it was entertaining and contained good clean hitting.
I just find it amusing why you can't seem to acknowledge any other innings other than one by a Mongoose....even an innings which was a stunning one....boring old DF bat or not! 
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Tom on September 02, 2010, 01:26:27 PM
The tone of my first post was always tongue in cheek. There was a similar tongue in cheek post regarding the Joker by Charlie, get over it.

As for not acknowledging a good innings, why do I need to in a Gareth Andrew and Mongoose thread?
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Post by: Liam-SCCC on September 02, 2010, 01:28:39 PM
I'm glad you changed the tone from the first entry.
I have changed my entry several times as well. But to summarise, I admitted that the Goose was used very well in their innings. And it was entertaining and contained good clean hitting.
I just find it amusing why you can't seem to acknowledge any other innings other than one by a Mongoose....even an innings which was a stunning one....boring old DF bat or not! 

Maybe because its a topic about gareth andrew and his mongoose! not solanki with his DF
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Post by: alexrickyponting on September 02, 2010, 01:40:13 PM
No they wouldn't....but alas, that seems to be the way of the World!
Solanki's knock was excellent and pure class. No slogging, just gorgeous shots!

So I bet you would love to see the end of test matches too? Too old fashioned for you?

when moeen got out i though we'd be alright then solanki started :(
the few times he tried to "slog" he mistimed it but it was a sublime knock
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Post by: Alvaro on September 02, 2010, 02:36:43 PM
Solanki's innings was sensational, when he makes runs it looks very easy. I just which it wasn't always against Surrey  >:(

and Gloucestershite, always against Gloucestershite :(
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Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 02, 2010, 02:54:06 PM
steady on...glos are merely hitting rock bottom so we can appreciate it more when a win comes along!
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Alvaro on September 02, 2010, 09:59:02 PM
steady on...glos are merely hitting rock bottom so we can appreciate it more when a win comes along!

yep, hear braces has signed another mediocre kiwi for next year. good times!
Title: Re: Mongoose + Gareth Andrew
Post by: Tom on September 10, 2010, 04:00:00 PM
Gareth used the MMi3 today in their 4 day game against Middlesex today, scoring 73. One of the sixes was massive, hitting the top tier of the grandstand.

It's the first time it's been used in 1st Class cricket.