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Title: Is this fair?
Post by: johnnyw on November 13, 2010, 11:06:16 PM
This has got me thinking for a while. Do people think that it is fair for brands to put their stickers on other brands products as below?

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Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Colesy on November 14, 2010, 01:06:09 AM
Personally no. You should promote the gear in which you are happy with as they have put so much work and effort in their own product only to have it covered up by another brand because they can not always compete financially.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Jacky on November 14, 2010, 03:14:24 AM
Very unfair, don't sponsor if you don't have gear.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: gsports on November 14, 2010, 05:27:49 AM
Not only is it unfair to the companies who provide such high quality equipment, its a rather shabby way of a small pakistani company to promote items they dont actually make.

I thought the main purpose of sponsorship, promoting and marketing your products was to increase sales and awareness of your products?

This theory obviously goes out of the window here
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 14, 2010, 04:37:20 PM
I don't find it fair but if I remember correctly many people have done this in past as well. for instance, Tendulkar wears BAS gloves but Adidas have there logo on them, same applies with pads he wears Morrant but you can see Adidas logo on top of it.

I believe a player is satisfied with one brand stuff and only wishes to use that but when he is sponsored by other company he doesn't like there stuff so he doesn't have any choice. i mean if Adnan really likes Aero KPR pads and is not sponsored by them but he wishes to use those pads as he find them comfortable etc so I don't think there is much a player or brand can do.

I hope it made sense
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 14, 2010, 04:37:57 PM
Wonder why ABD doesn't change stickers of his bat. i guess it is a lucky bat for him
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Alvaro on November 14, 2010, 04:46:19 PM
Wonder why ABD doesn't change stickers of his bat. i guess it is a lucky bat for him

SA is always behind with updated kit - note the GMs used by Smith, Botha and the Slaz of Kallis
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Opener on November 14, 2010, 07:25:08 PM
What about stickering up bats?
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Richard on November 14, 2010, 07:42:20 PM
Stickering up bats is different. It comes down to originality and what level of IP protection the company has over their products.

The Aero pads are a unique design and the company who have placed the sticker over the 'Aero' logo are attempting to 'pass them off' as their own. Bats are far more general which makes it more difficult to gain IP rights. Unless of course a brand introduces something original, such as the Mongoose 'MMi'.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: roco on November 14, 2010, 07:44:36 PM
Still decieving the buyer as players are passing other bats off as there sponsors bats as was interesting to hear the gm boys say they don't allow this and there pro's use there bats not just the stickers
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Richard on November 14, 2010, 07:52:23 PM
I agree roco, but without getting into silly details, that's the way it is.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Simmy on November 14, 2010, 07:53:40 PM
Still decieving the buyer as players are passing other bats off as there sponsors bats as was interesting to hear the gm boys say they don't allow this and there pro's use there bats not just the stickers

but dont GM make broads bats? even tho he has an adidass sponsership?
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: roco on November 14, 2010, 08:01:41 PM
Might do I was referring to the fact they said they don't let there pro's use others bats and there stickers so a pro using a gm stickered bat is using a gm bat
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 14, 2010, 08:17:03 PM
Stickering up bats is different. It comes down to originality and what level of IP protection the company has over their products.

The Aero pads are a unique design and the company who have placed the sticker over the 'Aero' logo are attempting to 'pass them off' as their own. Bats are far more general which makes it more difficult to gain IP rights. Unless of course a brand introduces something original, such as the Mongoose 'MMi'.

So what about Sachin and his Morrant pads? They have Adjdas logo on them same applies with his gloves.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 14, 2010, 08:18:55 PM
SA is always behind with updated kit - note the GMs used by Smith, Botha and the Slaz of Kallis
Ah okay. Smith, Botha etc are using 2010 stuff if I am correct whereas ABD seem to be using 2-3 year old stickers.

I believe same applies for Pakistani players. Umar Akmal was using 2010 stuff.

I believe these players are not getting latest stuff?
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Richard on November 14, 2010, 09:49:51 PM
It could be that the companies have an agreement to use the logo. Either way, it doesn't seem fair on Aero who obviously have put a lot of effort into getting their product in the Test match arena.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: SempreSami on November 14, 2010, 11:29:38 PM
Ah okay. Smith, Botha etc are using 2010 stuff if I am correct whereas ABD seem to be using 2-3 year old stickers.

I believe same applies for Pakistani players. Umar Akmal was using 2010 stuff.

I believe these players are not getting latest stuff?
I'm pretty sure the only GM thing he was using yesterday was his Flare bat, not sure why.

I suspect some companies are waiting for the Gabba to unveil their gear in an international match.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: FreeHit on November 15, 2010, 12:16:04 AM
I think Umar Akmal has given his GM batting pads to Misbah and Umar himself was using SS matrix pads.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 15, 2010, 12:52:05 AM
I didn't see Umar batting but he usually uses GM Original LE pads whereas if I remember the pads Misbah was wearing had canes only. Although the one Misbah wore are also Misbah and I believe those are GM 909. These pads were previously used by Imran during Australia tour
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 15, 2010, 12:52:58 AM
I'm pretty sure the only GM thing he was using yesterday was his Flare bat, not sure why.

I suspect some companies are waiting for the Gabba to unveil their gear in an international match.
No GM gloves?

His brother was wearing GM helmet and gloves.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: Colesy on November 15, 2010, 01:02:09 AM
Going back to ABD aren't those the old pads too?
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: FreeHit on November 15, 2010, 03:06:06 AM
I didn't see Umar batting but he usually uses GM Original LE pads whereas if I remember the pads Misbah was wearing had canes only. Although the one Misbah wore are also Misbah and I believe those are GM 909. These pads were previously used by Imran during Australia tour
The pads Imran Farhat wears are Left Handed GM Original LE 09, these were originally owned by Salman Butt he used them against New Zealand in a test match. But later that tour the match fixer Butt got a sponsor and gave the GM pads to Farhat and Farhat started using them bcoz his CA pads were ripped.
Title: Re: Is this fair?
Post by: gsports on November 15, 2010, 03:29:26 AM
Have seen many of the pakistan players use other brands in the past and use stickers from their sponsor to cover up the actual manufacturer of the equipment.

Inzi used to use Kookaburra softs and cover their logo up with the Wills sponsor logo, thats was back in the 90's so its nothing new.

I can understand players using the sponsors logo's on bats so that they fulfill their sponsorship requirements, but what is the point of Akmal using his sponsors labels on equipment which they don't sell. Its hardly promoting the brand and its products