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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: PM7 on December 19, 2010, 02:21:19 PM
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Sachin seals his place in history by being the first man to 50 Test hundreds.
What a performer, a true gentleman and a genuine role model.
Next challenge would be 100 hundreds combined with his ODI record.
Kallis and Ponting are unfortunate to have played at the same time as Sachin as they are all legends in their own right.
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For me he's the greatest
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Very good indeed but the greatest of this generation maybe but not of all time
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Nah he's overrated ;)
I have a feeling no-one is ever going to get anywhere near his amount of test runs
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Hopefully he'll play in England next year as I'm going to the Edgebaston test :)
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And he's still using that bloody bat! Steyn bowled 2 bouncers at him and gave him some lip. I'm wondering what you can say to a man who is 100no and in the middle of his 50th test ton?! I'd just turn and go back to my mark I think!
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has to be up there with the greatest of all time as for me is the best batsmen of the last 20 years but funny to see that kallis has a better avg than sachin lol
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Sorry still has to be The Don other are greats of thwe modern game but don't come close think he did without covered pitches etc
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Definitely the best of his generation, but I don't think you can say he is the greatest of all time.
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he is the best since the Don - but the Don was batter - his conversion rate was better and the pitches he played on were uncovered and much worse.
having said that no-one plays with the pressure of Tendulkar - I am really hoping to see him bat this summer, he will get an amazing reception in England
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The Don's average is just better than anybody pressure or not to average that i doubt it will ever be beaten
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not sure we will ever see anyone like him. battered every attack in every country in all forms of the game. never saw bradman but he must have been some bloody player to be better than Tendulkar.
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Bradman, Sobers, both better methinks. Sobers probably the best cricketer ever, just for his all-round abilities.
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This is a totally useless debate consisering it would mean little to Sachin whether he is the greatest ever, or greatest in toady's era......
..... the guy jsut loves and respects his game and that's kept his going.
(Just a thought though. Would Bradman or sobers or RP, Kallis etc. survive and repeatedly make their critics eat their words for 20 years??)
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its hard to compare players from different era's as the flip side is how would schin have faired with no helmet on uncovered pitches against some of the old fast bowlers you can only really say he is the greatest batsman of the modern era
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There a few average wise up there for longevity yes but there some up there with him
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This is a totally useless debate consisering it would mean little to Sachin whether he is the greatest ever, or greatest in toady's era......
..... the guy jsut loves and respects his game and that's kept his going.
(Just a thought though. Would Bradman or sobers or RP, Kallis etc. survive and repeatedly make their critics eat their words for 20 years??)
Yash, how is it at all useless? It's a discussion between us. it is unlikely that he'll ever see this, so I don't understand how it's useless. Also, I wouldn't say he's made them eat their words, as he was always tipped to be sensational, ever since he had that 664 run partnership as a schoolboy with Kambli...
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Longevity and fitness are key issues, hunger to suceed is what drives Sachin on.
Quite remarkably he has kept his feet on the ground and stayed away from any scandalous actvities ;)
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The little master is like a fine wine. . . gets better and better with age. that bat he used has been used to hit quite a few tons. i just love watching him bat. certainly is the best of his era. . . .no question about that.
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agree with some those who have said hes the best of his generation, not the best of all time tho
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Like so many have said on here Sachin is not the greatest of all time, that mantle has to go to the Don for so many reason ( quality of oppostion, uncovered pitches, traveling etc...) but Sachin's achievments are quiet remarkable....... From me the greatest sportsman (not just cricketer) is Sir Garfied Sobers.......brilliant batsman, spinner and swing bowler, also awsome in the slips!!!! not to mention a fine ambassador and gentleman!!!!
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Sachin is the greatest batsman of the modern era.
Bradman is the greatest batsman of all time without doubt.
Warne the greatest bowler of all time.
Sobers is the greatest all rounder of all time with Botham and Kallis not far behind.
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Botham was good but to put him in Kallis and Sobers class not for me..
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Agreed . . . .Botham did not really perform against the best of his time . . .ie the windies.
Kallis is really a batsman who can bowl,
Kapil, Imran and Hadlee were bowlers who could bat. i would put Imran ahead of beefy and the others of his time. for his captaincy and the way he got the best out of his players.
But Sobers. is the no.1
Anyone seen Javed Miandad's record??
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Kallis is really a batsman who can bowl,
Not sure I can agree with that - 267 test match wickets at 31 is a record most international bowlers would be happy with. Kallis is an extraordinary player and a phenominal all rounder (although he is certainly a bit more all round than he used to be - aren't we all..!)
in the mean time - 50 pics of the Master here - those obsessed by his bat have a load to look at! http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/current/gallery/485141.html
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Kallis is disqualified for that awful rug thing on the top of his head ;)
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No.29 looks a bit odd?
I might be wrong but nos 44 to 50 with the same bas bat??
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Rather than comparing the greats of the game, it's better to enjoy them whilst their still playing As once their gone, the game is a much poorer place.
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http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/282910.html
here a statistical look at the greats...
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Kumar Sangakkara has got to be considered a modern great based on his stats
If Bradman had of played as many test matches as Tendulkar based on stats he would of made 23544 test runs compared to Tendulkars 14509
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If Bradman had played as many test as Sachin, he would have 4 times as many 0's compared to Sachin also.. Just sayin..
IMO what makes Sachin the greatest is the ease he switches formats with, Test to ODI to T20 he always seems in control of whatever situation he's in.
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Bradman would of made 97 centuries 44 half centuries and 23 0's based on test stats
Hardly 4 times the amount 0's and ODI'S and T20's were not around in the 30's and 40's.
Tendulkar has also said that he is offended to be mentioned in the same vain as 'The Don'
Tendulkar in my opinion is the greatest cricketer of the 'modern era' but not of all time
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My point wasn't to compare stats, it was to show how stats can be made up just by looking at averages..
No point in comparing stats for them two..
Everyone has their own opinion, my point was just to point out the versatility of Sachin's batting in different formats..
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Brandman is peerless in stats terms, but.. there is a nagging doubt that he did not play the short stuff well. There are a lot of pitcures of him stepping a LONG way to leg.
He also did not play anywhere near as much cricket as Sachin has played and this puts anyones stats under threat. Also because he was a leg side nurdler i think puts Sachin in the same sentence as Bradman who i dont think was as much better than his brilliant stats suggest. No one mentioning Lara, who changed a game quicker than either of them?
Warne is right up there
Imran Khan always gets forgotten as one of the best all rounders, but hard to get past Sobers.
Who do you think better between Richard Hadley and the best all rounder for a while Kallis?
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Dificult to compare a bowling all rounder - Hadley with a batting all rounder - Kallis and a genuine all rounder - Sobers. Because of how the three of them play, you could pick all three in the same team.
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imagine how good jack hobbs' stats could have been if he didn't get himself out after passing 100 a lot of the time because as a professional he felt his job was done...
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Some people will get into an argument about anything.
Both great players. Why is it necessary to compare?
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As long as there is sport players will be compared it's all a bit of fun which people take too far we each have our own opinion as I think sir viv is up there with anyone as a batsmen
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Deffinately not the best of all time, although most certainly the best of the modern era. I always like to say back in Bradman's time, cricket wasnt their job, they had to work full time (40 hour weeks) and then train after work, also no planes to take them around, which meant weeks to months on boats and time away from family, plus the fact that Bradman didnt play for a couple of years due to the war. Now adays cricket is their full time job, all they have to do is train, analyse their technique spend hours perfecting it and then implementing it, plus they get paid way more. I'm not saying that its easy to train all the time like modern day cricketers do, but its better than working 40 hour weeks then training for hours on end afterwards. Also, back then the fields were bigger and bats were smaller, now, fields are smaller and bats are bigger, doesnt make sense to me, all they need to do now is get a thick edge and it races away for 4 or even 6, not back then, either 1's or 2's.
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Brandman is peerless in stats terms, but.. there is a nagging doubt that he did not play the short stuff well. There are a lot of pitcures of him stepping a LONG way to leg.
He also did not play anywhere near as much cricket as Sachin has played and this puts anyones stats under threat. Also because he was a leg side nurdler i think puts Sachin in the same sentence as Bradman who i dont think was as much better than his brilliant stats suggest. No one mentioning Lara, who changed a game quicker than either of them?
Warne is right up there
Imran Khan always gets forgotten as one of the best all rounders, but hard to get past Sobers.
Who do you think better between Richard Hadley and the best all rounder for a while Kallis?
Yes steelcouch, the more you play, the more you have to lose in terms of stats, however, this extra playing has afforded modern day players to have cricket as their full time job plus, more cricket also means you have more match time to improve. So less playing possibly means better stats, but in saying that, why was no one else anywhere near bradmans stats, clearly its not a case of "He didnt play much so that's why his average is so high".
Also bats were small back then, now they are big but light, just put the bat there and a deflection will go for 4 or 6 in today's game.