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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: 19reading87 on December 21, 2010, 09:22:14 PM
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I have seen alot of people on here wanting to get hold of "pro's bats" but I was wondering something different.
Does anybody know exactly what certain pro's go for? I'm probably looking more at the bat makers here for answers but if other forum members know for certain then please share.
For Example :- Weight, amount of grains, handle type, how many grips etc...
Reds
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Pick up...Handle position,,, middle position.... a lesser degree amount of wood,,, that i think they ask and look for
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I know quite a lot of pros are concerned about how the bats feels in their hands and performance. Botha, who uses Lekka, if the bat feels good in his habds, Is off and away with it,
Not many are that fussed with looks, as long as it goes like a rocket, but I know ian bells a bit of a bat nerd and wants looks, performance and pickup!
Hope that helps :)
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I had one of Bell's Adidas Incruza bat (not sure if it was from his bag or a reject) and it was simply the best Adidas bat I have seen till date. Perfect grains, amazing pik-up and a dream middle. Think I sold it to some lucky chap on this forum......
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I had one of Bell's Adidas Incruza bat (not sure if it was from his bag or a reject) and it was simply the best Adidas bat I have seen till date. Perfect grains, amazing pik-up and a dream middle. Think I sold it to some lucky chap on this forum......
Wow!! very nice... remember any more specs of it??
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Remember who you sold it to ;) haha i want one, how did you get it?
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Was it actually adidas made? Or not: I'm wondering if it was stickered..? I heard from someone that pietersen actually uses the incurza, just with pellara stickers..which I though quite interesting!
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think it had 12-14 grains with no heartwood. The pick-up was very light so guess it might have been a 2.8/2.9-ish (did not weigh it). slightly thicker handle than usual. Was told he puts 2-3 grips on his bats.
Cannot forget the the amazing feel and the middle of the bat.
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Was it actually adidas made? Or not: I'm wondering if it was stickered..? I heard from someone that pietersen actually uses the incurza, just with pellara stickers..which I though quite interesting!
Not sure where was it made. But was definately an Incruza. Not sure if the KP bat is a Incruza as KP's bat has a different spine design like a Pellera. Maybe the middle position is like that on the Incruz. Hard to say unless someone has had a look at them.
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Remember who you sold it to ;) haha i want one, how did you get it?
Sorry mate cannot recollect it was over a year back
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Just to add on the KP bat. I saw both KPs and Freddy's bats being made at SS in India a couple of years back. Blanks to be stickered up. Very special bats and the way they were being made was miles off the way the other top of the range shop bats were being made.
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How were they made differently?
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How were they made differently?
What about the pros you make for mate?
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Cozzie isnt overly fussy at all - as long as its around 2-8 to 2-9 or sometimes a little heavier for T20. Hes started liking loads of heartwood at the moment - some nearly all red.
Brownie likes them lighter around 2-7, very thin handle and as big as poss. Hes doing a bit of experementing for this season, so im taking 4/5 tweeks of shapes for him to have a net with towards the middle of Jan.
Generally, most of the pros i've delt with, both sponsored and paying customers, like them around 2-8 to 2-9 and generally are not much more fussy than that. They have normally seen one of my previous bats, like it, so go with the same as that.
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How were they made differently?
Mainly pressing and keeping a close eye on the pick-up and balance of the bat throught out the bat making process. Bot to mention getting these bats made from their best bat maker. Think the handles were a bit different as well.
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Cozzie isnt overly fussy at all - as long as its around 2-8 to 2-9 or sometimes a little heavier for T20. Hes started liking loads of heartwood at the moment - some nearly all red.
Brownie likes them lighter around 2-7, very thin handle and as big as poss. Hes doing a bit of experementing for this season, so im taking 4/5 tweeks of shapes for him to have a net with towards the middle of Jan.
Generally, most of the pros i've delt with, both sponsored and paying customers, like them around 2-8 to 2-9 and generally are not much more fussy than that. They have normally seen one of my previous bats, like it, so go with the same as that.
Sorry for being rude but who is brownie - and when you say thin handle does he put alot of grips on then??
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Mainly pressing and keeping a close eye on the pick-up and balance of the bat throught out the bat making process. Bot to mention getting these bats made from their best bat maker. Think the handles were a bit different as well.
What was different about the pressing? I know with a lot of asian bats pressing they can be very hit and miss, and often on asian bats the toe is very weak...
I guess they wont be their 'run of the mill' bats.
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Brownie: michael brown of Surrey :)
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Brownie: michael brown of Surrey :)
I thought so but wasnt sure... cheers bud
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ah right, so still made in the same way - just more attention to detail. I thought you ment they were made complete differently.
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Sorry for being rude but who is brownie - and when you say thin handle does he put alot of grips on then??
Yea sorry, Michael Brown - Surrey
Nah, just leaves them thin. It helps him manoeuvre the ball around.
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belly has his bats made by hawk in stoughbridge
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Didn't think it'd have been adidas :) bet he gets paid a tasty sum fir those damn stickers!
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belly has his bats made by hawk in stoughbridge
So do we know who actually makes Adidas bats? If I walked into a shop and picked up a Pellara Elite, who do you think makes it? I imagine India?
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well at hawk they say they make them and sticker them up for him !
i think there bats are made by sg in india
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Yea sorry, Michael Brown - Surrey
Nah, just leaves them thin. It helps him manoeuvre the ball around.
Makes perfect sense :) Cheers mate
What about grain wise, how does he like them on that front?
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Brownie: michael brown of Surrey :)
Brownie of Burnley more like it
Owais Shah has very thin handles the SM PINTU he uses is as thin as i have seen
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Brownie of Burnley more like it
Owais Shah has very thin handles the SM PINTU he uses is as thin as i have seen
SM PINTU ????
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Yep SM Pintu Shah main bat last season stickerd up as a kook
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Only seen one SM Pintu. Was alright, nothing special
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Yep SM Pintu Shah main bat last season stickerd up as a kook
Never heard of it.....
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/countycricket2010/content/image/467897.html?object=20123;page=1
this is a pintu
The one i saw was special very special it was his granted
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I read once that Shah tapes his whole handle before putting the grip on...
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The one i looked at he did not it was just so thin and to be honest looked like a shop bat apart from the performance
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I wonder if any pros are as fanatical about their bats as we are about ours...
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Ponting and Hussey are
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Ponting doesn't let anyone touch his bats, if anyone touches it before he uses it he will not use it until he has practiced with it first...Hussey just has loads of slightly different bats that he chooses from
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any more for any more??
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sm pintu is an offshoot of bdm...I think one of the brothers
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I read somewhere that Gayle has a 2 inch longer blade or something like that. Must be a tank of a bat that he uses... Also at what height is it considered that you should have a long blade bat or Long Handle? I'm fairly tall myself and have never really had a problem with a normal size blade...
Also read somewhere that Ponting has the top end of the handle on his bats cut off. Any specific reason for this, such as balancing the bat better or just superstition?
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I have seen alot of people on here wanting to get hold of "pro's bats" but I was wondering something different.
Does anybody know exactly what certain pro's go for? I'm probably looking more at the bat makers here for answers but if other forum members know for certain then please share.
For Example :- Weight, amount of grains, handle type, how many grips etc...
Reds
I'm going to re - open this topic again seeing as there are a lot more companys on the forum now ans they may give some info...
Reds
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I read somewhere that Gayle has a 2 inch longer blade or something like that. Must be a tank of a bat that he uses... Also at what height is it considered that you should have a long blade bat or Long Handle? I'm fairly tall myself and have never really had a problem with a normal size blade...
Also read somewhere that Ponting has the top end of the handle on his bats cut off. Any specific reason for this, such as balancing the bat better or just superstition?
Brad haddin also cuts the tops of his handles off...saw it in an interview once, can't recall 100% why but I think it made them pickup better or something like that
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The knob can really feel like it gets in the way if you grip the bat near the shoulders.
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i know bairstow just uses what ever slazenger send to him weight is 2.8-2.9
one he gave to my mate has a fair bit of heartwood but thats it hes not fussy at all
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The 3 we have previously supplied to James Taylor came about by him seeing a few pics on Facebook so he asked if we could sort a couple for him, obviously he was then sponsored by Adidas but used them in the one day and T20 formats I think.
I'd like to think the bats we stock from the bat maker are good enough to hold their own on the pro circuit without being cherry picked from a mass number. The current two Yorkshire lads really like the ones they have now and haven't heard any negative feedback from them as yet :)
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Freddie's made in India??? When was this? Pretty sure Rob Pack made his bats (when he was stickered up with woodworm and puma anyway). (so at least 2005 to 2009 I believe - don't quote me on the dates but pretty sure they were the years he had woodworm and puma)
I'm with whoever said 'pick the one that weighs and feels the best with whatever grain you like. As long as the performance is there who cares! I've only owned 3 'match' bats so far and the best one is Rob Packs BlueRoom (other two were Kookaburra Kahuna 1000 and Grey Nicolls Ignite Pro Performance). It feels better, pings even more AND costs half the price! (and looks the dogs too)
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I'd like to think the bats we stock from the bat maker are good enough to hold their own on the pro circuit without being cherry picked from a mass number. The current two Yorkshire lads really like the ones they have now and haven't heard any negative feedback from them as yet :)
to be fair, they're two pretty awful batsmen though... :)
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to be fair, they're two pretty awful batsmen though... :)
How does that affect their ability to know if a bat is decent or not??
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How does that affect their ability to know if a bat is decent or not??
it affects the extent to which they'd care! Not having a dig at the quality, just thought it worth pointing out that we're not talking about test batsmen here!
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it affects the extent to which they'd care! Not having a dig at the quality, just thought it worth pointing out that we're not talking about test batsmen here!
Generalisation?
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some county tail enders are pretty good batsman when they come down to club level
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I wouldn't say james Taylor is an awful batsmen and having played with Brooksy at wormsley with a number of the forum sponsors I'd say he can bat a bit too.
Fact is if a pro is worth his salt he can bat with anything half decent, the rest is down to personal preference and how fussy they are. I'm sure that the majority of county pros get set their kit rather than going to cheery pick it themselves unless you are a player that the sponsor wants to look after and keep on side and put a bit of a PR spin behind
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opinions are like bum holes we all have them
i get what he his trying to say but there always a opinion.
some are happy just to receive free kit whilst others scrutinise kit.
Bit like this forum
Tom nail on the head mate it us mugs who need bigger middles because we cant find them on most bats hence we play league cricket.
Better players need smaller middles because they find it more than us biffers
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Posted by Harry (owner of Kingsgrove Sports) on Facebook today: "...Believe it or not, I have seen Michael's Spartans and Sangakarra's SS and they both wanted their bats lightened further to 2 lb 7.5 oz. Miraculously, our Bat repairer Simon managed the job well..."
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Freddie's made in India??? When was this? Pretty sure Rob Pack made his bats (when he was stickered up with woodworm and puma anyway). (so at least 2005 to 2009 I believe - don't quote me on the dates but pretty sure they were the years he had woodworm and puma)
I've been down to Hunts County and they've had a load of Freddies old bats lying around, some of which they've made as well (their words, not mine).