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Title: Signature
Post by: essexarsenal on December 27, 2010, 01:20:55 PM
Right, after working my (No Swearing Please) off for the past year and christmas was generous, am I crazy to be thinking about getting a laver and wood signature ?
I emailed James and Andy and they gave me a price for just the signature bat and not the Private Bin or accessories etc. Here are some pictures of the two signature clefts which they have in stock at the moment. 
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/essexarsenal/laversigcleft.jpg)


What are your thoughts ? I mean for the money you pay to have one of these you could get 2 gray nics legend or 4 bats from custom companies on here like SAF etc
I have to say Laver and Wood were very good in replying to my email and are a pleasure to speak to.
Looking at those clefts , is that what you expect for a signature?  They look lovely and James said he can knock me up an incredible bat.  Thoughts Please
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 27, 2010, 01:24:27 PM
have modified the post mate to inc the pic
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 27, 2010, 01:29:06 PM
that bottom cleft looks the nuts

what spec/profile will you be going for?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 27, 2010, 01:30:14 PM
where do laver get there clefts from?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: essexarsenal on December 27, 2010, 01:31:16 PM
cheer tom

Have not decided if I want it yet, lot of money and I could get 2 gray nics legend for the same price.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 27, 2010, 01:31:56 PM
I would expect a pretty swift and polite reply from any company when you contact them to buy their top end model of anything ;)

looks very nice though but i would go for a bat i can pick up and swing before parting with a fair chunck of my hard earned ££££.

im sure you'll get something pretty special though from L&W and worth every penny....depends how you wanna spend you money i guess :)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 27, 2010, 01:33:04 PM
what about a SCAT?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: PM7 on December 27, 2010, 01:39:18 PM
Wow, 2 very nice clefts but I cant justify the price tag.They would look nice in a kitbag or mounted on a wall but they wont improve your game. I would go with 4 quality custom bats for the same price anyday.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: espocrespo on December 27, 2010, 02:16:11 PM
I wouldn't pay the money, because more often than not if you have a real good look round and you know your sources you could get 4 bats that have reasonably good performance
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: jimba101 on December 27, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
Personally I would never pay that money for a bat. But if I had the money to do it I would speak to the forum batmakers to see if they have any real top cleft in they could sort you out with...
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Alvaro on December 27, 2010, 02:29:15 PM
Get a Private Bin and something else, like a Legend, and have two high end bats that you can use without the fear of snapping £800 worth of willow in your first dig with it ;)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: procricket on December 27, 2010, 02:31:59 PM
where do laver get there clefts from?

JS Wrights

If it a one off get the signature if it just another bat get a Pb


Remember the 2nd bat you get with the signature is of Pb quality

(No Swearing Please) go for it mate once in a lifetime and i will as soon as i can afford it
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: jonpinson on December 27, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Hello,

I've been in similar contact with L&W recently with a view to getting a Reserve rather than a Sig. The clefts I was offered were very nice, but did not justify the price tag.

If I'm honest the two you have been offered are really lovely but they do not justify the price, or anywhere near it to be honest. Not to detract from them, but it isn't impossible to see a 'normally priced' bat with wood like that. I'd rate the grains on my new GT as being in the same league. Lets be logical, the grains are not perfectly straight, they are not perfectly spaced. The clefts are not 'perfect' visually, which is what I would want on a £300 bat, let along a £600 one.

Andy at Laver did tell me they are expecting a big willow delivery at the end of January and that if I was still interested, to check back then as he expected more choice then. He openly admitted that the Reserve clefts he offered me (one which had been originally graded as a Signature) were not 'earth shattering' (direct quote) and he could understand my reservations in choosing one of them.

If you are set on getting one it might be worth getting back in touch and putting that to him. Let's face it, for that kind of money you want perfection, otherwise you may as well buy 3 bats at £200 each.

To be honest these two were the sort of thing I was expecting to be offered for a Reserve. If I were to go for a Signature I would want it to look like the famous one shown on the forum which in my eyes, is 'perfect'.

Jon
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: essexarsenal on December 27, 2010, 05:57:04 PM
thanks for the feedback.  I have emailed James/Andy saying I would expect a little bit more for the price etc etc.  Have also PMed a couple bat makers on here to see what they can offer, thanks
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 27, 2010, 06:10:18 PM
It says on their website they only get 6 or so clefts a year good enough for the signature, would have thought it will be something very special.....

If you've got the cash go for it, you may never have the chance to again.....
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Mr Cricket on December 27, 2010, 06:12:49 PM
if you dont have to worry about money then you might as well go for it!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: essexarsenal on December 27, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
ah no I do have to worry bout money, just worked really hard past year and christmas was generous so I have a nice budget to treat myself lol
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: johan95 on December 27, 2010, 08:48:59 PM
Probably better with the custom bats. Why not ask for a boom bat from Rob Pack? Or something form any of the other batmakers on here...?
Johan
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: roco on December 27, 2010, 08:51:41 PM
What's a boom bat is that one of the models
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: johan95 on December 27, 2010, 08:54:02 PM
Pressed a bit more, which has better performance, more of a boom, but is likely to last for less time, which Rob makes sure you know..! 
Up to you, I think asking Liam or Rob would be best, or you could ask him when you go up on the 29th Jan! :)
Johan
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Tumo on December 27, 2010, 08:58:45 PM
It's a difficult decision. If you've got the money, by all means. However, people on here make the point that there are batmakers on this forum who will sort you out with 3, 4, or even 5 customs for that price (roughly £1154, a fair price to pay!) As I said, a difficult decision to be made!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: espocrespo on December 27, 2010, 09:00:40 PM
Besides if you wanted to flaunt a good bat I'm sure the majority of 'normal' club cricketers wouldnt even know what a laver is, so you could get a gray nicolls legend
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: johan95 on December 27, 2010, 09:02:32 PM
Another point raised is: what if it breaks very quickly..? Thats a lot of money down the drain.. :s
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Tumo on December 27, 2010, 09:03:01 PM
Besides if you wanted to flaunt a good bat I'm sure the majority of 'normal' club cricketers wouldnt even know what a laver is, so you could get a gray nicolls legend
You say that, but I was bowling at a number 11 last season using a Laver PB! I was horrified! What a waste of a bat on the last man...
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Tumo on December 27, 2010, 09:19:07 PM
I was the only person who recognised it. To be fair, in our side, we've got a mixture of GM, GN, Adidas, Puma, an old Newbery, and my Hunts County. We've got quite a standard selection of bats in our normal XI!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: johan95 on December 27, 2010, 09:25:26 PM
Actually that does make sense. Only one little lad at our club has a laver, but he's a very good player! Though, I'm going to try and divert people away from bigger brands as they can pay a lot less for such a great custom bat, from Blueroom, SAF, H4L Lekka or any maker on here..dunno why more people don't buy custom-mades at my club, I guess they just don't know...
Oh yeah, my bad, Sorry that was off-topic. I won't do that again, got a bit carried away... :(
Edit:
Won't post on this any more as what I'm saying isn't on topic, sorry Essex, though come on you GUNNERS! 3-1!!
In the end mate, it's all up to you, you're the one spending the money.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: procricket on December 27, 2010, 09:31:05 PM
I can tell you Johan why most do not because most do not care

And the bit about it breaking you get another bat Pb standard with the signature....

Like most have said if you have the money go for it bud..

I have had many a Laver and think there up there with the best you buy a premium product from a premium batmaker  are they better bats than the forum offers some are some are not...

If i had the money i would have one maybe next year
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Buzz on December 27, 2010, 09:33:54 PM
You say that, but I was bowling at a number 11 last season using a Laver PB! I was horrified! What a waste of a bat on the last man...
humm what club were you playing? Our number 11 uses a laver custom and it is totally wasted on him. Actually it is an odd bat the middle is right at the bottom, it's really heavy and the pick up is grim- not a surprise that though.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Tumo on December 27, 2010, 09:38:46 PM
humm what club were you playing? Our number 11 uses a laver custom and it is totally wasted on him. Actually it is an odd bat the middle is right at the bottom, it's really heavy and the pick up is grim- not a surprise that though.
God knows what club, one in North Lincolnshire though! It looked an absolute belter though!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Buzz on December 27, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
Comedy, two number 11's using Lavers! What a waste. In the mean time, on topic, i'm not sure spending a grand on a bat is the best value for money.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on December 27, 2010, 10:08:14 PM
If you've worked hard all year to save for the laver then buy it. Life's too short.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: jonpinson on December 27, 2010, 10:17:34 PM
Comedy, two number 11's using Lavers! What a waste. In the mean time, on topic, i'm not sure spending a grand on a bat is the best value for money.

In fairness a grand gets you more than just the one bat here, you get lots of other bits too. Signature on its own costs £600.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: essexarsenal on December 27, 2010, 10:27:33 PM
yer Im just interested in buying the signature not the Private Bin or accessories.  I have emailed Liam about rob pack, emailed SAF and H4L too.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: jonpinson on December 27, 2010, 10:29:52 PM
emailed SAF

Good luck with that, I've been trying to throw money at them for something special for the last month, seems they don't want the business.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: roco on December 27, 2010, 11:53:11 PM
Pressed a bit more, which has better performance, more of a boom, but is likely to last for less time, which Rob makes sure you know..! 
Up to you, I think asking Liam or Rob would be best, or you could ask him when you go up on the 29th Jan! :)
Johan

i go up 29th dec so this wed so will se what he's got then as taking my match bat for him to look at then will see what he reccomends
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 28, 2010, 09:34:22 AM
Comedy, two number 11's using Lavers! What a waste. In the mean time, on topic, i'm not sure spending a grand on a bat is the best value for money.

isnt 'spending a grand on a bat' the first point in Buzz's guide 'how to score a hundred' lol :)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 28, 2010, 09:37:38 AM
Pressed a bit more, which has better performance, more of a boom, but is likely to last for less time, which Rob makes sure you know..! 
Up to you, I think asking Liam or Rob would be best, or you could ask him when you go up on the 29th Jan! :)
Johan

I'd love to know how pressing a bat more increases the performance of the bat and reduces the life. I thought Rob pressed the bats that go on the shelves once more to give them extra durability, and his pro performing bats just the one press, i would love to hear more about this...... where's PW88 when you need him lol
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: peplow on December 28, 2010, 09:38:33 AM
i thought pressing more had a decrease of initial performance but lasted longer?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 28, 2010, 09:44:56 AM

Yeah thats exactly what i thought, i think Johans a bit confused.....
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: 100 not out on December 28, 2010, 09:46:42 AM
ditto
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: jonpinson on December 28, 2010, 10:04:29 AM
Pet hates of mine:

People who get the (No Swearing Please) when people derail their threads, then proceed to derail other's.


 :D
Come on folks, Rob Pack has his own section on here.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 28, 2010, 10:24:46 AM
i fail to see the problem.......

i was simply enquiring about a post made in this thread......

SAF also have their own section :)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 28, 2010, 10:51:17 AM

essex arsenal, what made you think about getting a Laver?

are you after a truly stunning looking piece of willow, or is performance your priority ?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: johan95 on December 28, 2010, 02:22:01 PM
Yeah thats exactly what i thought, i think Johans a bit confused.....

Sorry, I probably am confused. Will not post on here any more. Ask PW88?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: essexarsenal on December 28, 2010, 04:09:43 PM
essex arsenal, what made you think about getting a Laver?

are you after a truly stunning looking piece of willow, or is performance your priority ?

Yer I want a really nice cleft/willow which will of course perform. I think james laver is one of the best batmakers and when he says he can knock you up an incredible bat is really does get to you.  I just want a bat which will  guarantee performance like no other, USUALLY you get what you pay for hence why im interested in a Laver or gray nics legend.  I emailed laver and they said they will have around 2 or 3 signature clefts delivered by the end of Jan so going to wait and see.  But for the price they want I will only buy if the bat/cleft is perfection.  In the meantime H4l are sending some pics to me of some nice bats they have in and Liam (PW) is speaking to rob pack to see if he has anything nice atm. 
I know some people feel it would be too exspensive and your better of getting 3 bats from custom batmakers but  if you worked hard and now have the money to afford a signature something inside you just says go for it and you may never get the chance again.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on December 28, 2010, 04:19:04 PM

I had a look on the Laver website earlier and i must say the bats on there look very special indeed...... its made me want one now lol

i cant wait to see what you end up with..... i'm sure its gonna be something truly stunning :)

Title: Re: Signature
Post by: gtstarped on January 03, 2011, 08:11:18 AM
Hi essexarsenal,

I've read the forum for a while now but have never posted, just had no reason too. However I saw your post and thought I may be able to add something here. I've sort of bought and traded my way through a few bats over the past few years and have ended up with a L&W Reserve (25+ grains 50/50 heartwood), L&W Signature (unused), and now imported a GN Legend from the UK.

Like you I bought the Signature without the extra stuff for a very good price for one reason or another. Having bought a lot of top bats over the years, finding a looker + performer + the shape you want is tough. I'd admit its almost impossible!! Willow is a natural product and even the very best does have imperfections, even the Signature.

My Signature has 15 grains with 11 evenly spaced grains, with 4 very tight grains in the middle. James advised this was one of the best Signatures pieces he had ever had as the extra tight grains would play well with the edges being stronger. I'm not sure as I haven't had the guts to use it, however I'd always imagined evenly spaced, but this was not the case and I went with his advice. The shape is a mix of a custom AM (Pakistan) and L&W Special with no scalloping, and is actually very very similar to a GN Legend (AUS) with an oval handle, it really is a beautiful specimen. If you want an amazingly well made bat, like you can't imagine, this is it. The finishing is amazing, handle feels strong and will last, and I have confidence it will last season after season when I use it. Trust me though, you still won't be 100% satisfied, thats just the way it seems to work :-). For me, mines a little heavier than I wanted at 2.11oz even though I wanted 2.85.

I received the UK GN Legend just before Xmas from Talent Cricket. Initially I was soooooo annoyed, I asked for it not to be knocked in and they oiled and knocked it in taking an extra two weeks. It sweated so bad in the packaging and during delivery that it has pooled oil on the bat. After drying, cleaning it up, getting used to it, and having throw downs with it, it feels super soft and is going to perform really really well, but I really don't think it will last for ever. I guess if I wanted that, I would buy a grade 3 bat. It has 14 grains evenly spaced but a bit wonky if I'm honest and has a few imperfections on the back. BIG 37mm edges for 2.9oz. Pretty well made for an off the shelf, but certainly does not have the attention to detail in the finishing of a L&W and I'm not convinced about the handle strength.

Anyway in conclusion, if you're want the best available, are happy to buy over the internet without feeling the bat in your hands, and are prepared to pay for the Signature, its a great choice and you'll love it. If you're not convinced that you will be 100% happy, go to your local store or from store to store if you have to, and find the best example of the shape/model of bat that you like and then replace it when you need a new one. Thats what I'll probably do next time, even if it ends up with 8 grains. Having tested multiple multiple bats from 7 grains to 25 grains, from small amount of heartwood to 75% heartwood, I realised that a soft low density piece of willow in the correctly suited shape, is the most important thing, although it won't last. Also allows you to then buy a new one :-).

On a side note about L&W, both of my bats are very well made and I'm sure they'll last far far longer than anything in any brand off the shelf. The handles are far better quality and the finishing is not comparable to anything but GM. One recommendation I would make though is, make sure you're firm about the max weight you will accept, as James in my experiences tends to make them heavier than you ask for.

Added a photo photos below for you.

Siganture Willow

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/amykristinwilson/Sigbat.jpg)

Signature Bat

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/amykristinwilson/Signature.jpg)

Legend Grain

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/amykristinwilson/Legend.jpg)

Reserve when new

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/amykristinwilson/Reserve.jpg)

Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on January 03, 2011, 09:39:22 AM

great looking bats mate and welcome to the forum.......

finally a forum member has a Legend........

please can you do a proper review on the legend for us with plebty of pics including a side on one

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: golders on January 03, 2011, 09:43:33 AM
That reserve looks sexy as hell!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on January 03, 2011, 09:48:23 AM
That reserve looks sexy as hell!

Totally agree with you there mate... would love to see the profiles of both....

i think i prefer the face of the reserve tbh...
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: essexarsenal on January 03, 2011, 11:49:56 AM
cheers for the info have PM you.  To be fair the Legend in my opinion has the nicest grains although a close up on those Lavers would be nice ;)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: espocrespo on January 03, 2011, 11:50:45 AM
the reserve looks amazing, not so much the signature but hey, i wouldnt mind all three of those bats haha :)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Liam-SCCC on January 03, 2011, 11:36:20 PM
Just use the money and get all new kit. GN oblivion PP bat with oblivion tests softs would be my choice
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: petehosk on January 04, 2011, 10:50:22 PM
Welcome gtstarped - and lush bits of willow there fella!  ;)
I have 3 Lavers myself but no Sig! His finishing is great and he makes a bat that gets better as you use it more!
Not sure about a Legend. Had a play with the demo legend at the lords show which felt decent!! But I was actually more impressed with the top line GN keeper gloves - they felt so soft and comfortable and the best wicket keeper gloves I have ever tried!
I agree about Laver for the quality and a safe bet for quality and finish if you buy over the internet. The only thing I change is that I would rarely consider buying retail shop to shop. I would rather go to one of the custom makers and see what they have face to face.
But full marks on one of the best first posts I have seen - nice one!  :D
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on January 05, 2011, 11:19:56 AM
Welcome gtstarped - and lush bits of willow there fella!  ;)
I have 3 Lavers myself but no Sig! His finishing is great and he makes a bat that gets better as you use it more!
Not sure about a Legend. Had a play with the demo legend at the lords show which felt decent!! But I was actually more impressed with the top line GN keeper gloves - they felt so soft and comfortable and the best wicket keeper gloves I have ever tried!
I agree about Laver for the quality and a safe bet for quality and finish if you buy over the internet. The only thing I change is that I would rarely consider buying retail shop to shop. I would rather go to one of the custom makers and see what they have face to face.
But full marks on one of the best first posts I have seen - nice one!  :D

I agree quality first post....... :)

lets hope we have more first posts like that
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: jonpinson on January 05, 2011, 12:53:14 PM
First off let me say your bats look great and you seem genuinely happy with them, so congratulations on that.

As this is a forum where debate is permitted, and I am currently in talks with Laver for something similar, I feel the need to comment. For the price the signature is, I'd expect more. Sure, it looks great and I'm sure the performance is unparalleled BUT it isn't the most amazing piece of wood I've seen. For the price which we are all aware of, I would demand absolute perfection in both performance and looks. Let us be honest, top performing yet not so pretty bats can be bought for around £200. For the extra money I would expect a bat with out of the world performance plus perfect grain structure. Being honest, I think your reserve looks better and I'd guess it performs just as well.

The only thing that matters though is that you are happy with it, which you clearly are.

All the best.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: ProWannabe88 on January 05, 2011, 01:02:37 PM
I am loving that reserve. Congrats on your purchases. I hope they bring you lots of enjoyment.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Canners on January 05, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
for that price id want the bat to play the shots for me tbh ;)

but would i pay that sort of money..... maybe...... im not sure only time will tell i guess

I also agree that the reserve looks better but because of the heartwood probably isnt of signature grade. I've only seen one bat on this forum that everyone has said is nigh on perfect... so it does make me wonder how often these clefts come along that apparantly warrant the £800 price tag.

I personally think all 3 of those bats look cracking bats grainwise and providing they play well im sure GTSTARPD is over the moon with them and is a very lucky chap in my eyes.....

ps still waiting for the full on review of the legend ;)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: gtstarped on January 06, 2011, 07:00:15 AM
I saw a debate over this elsewhere and I'm not going to judge the price tag on the Signature, (although there is more value than one bat which we won't get it too either), however what James has done is set himself apart from other manufacturers early by providing the option to purchase a collectors item, with a large degree of exclusivity, which people are obviously willing to buy into. Whether the wood is 100% or 98% perfect, full credit to him, and whether a small spec or imperfection changes this, I don't think thats the point. Perfection in grain is also quite subjective, depending on your preferred specs and attention to detail.

You will notice with the new Newbery Cenkos, Sommers Blade, GN Legend (AUS + UK) and Slazenger Master Class, and others, that larger companies have realised there is a market for these types of offerings, whether logic justifies the extra cost or not. From a business point of view, the idea is fantastic! These clefts won't cost them anymore and we consumers are willing to pay considerable amounts more for them, improving their margins.

essexarsenal, i hope you got my PM, as I'm not able to find it in my sent items.
Canners1983, not sure I can be bothered reviewing legend, haven't used it enough either to give full details.

Reserve face
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/amykristinwilson/IMG_3299.jpg)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: awp on January 24, 2011, 08:58:34 AM
The clefts in the OP are fantastic, but we've seen bats from pretty much all the wonderful bat makers on this forum made from equally good wood.  Personally, price tags aside, I dont prefer the LW over a Shaddow, New Wave, 666, Erus, Ayrtek etc all of whom have produced bats with 10 perfect grains also. 
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 16, 2014, 07:24:25 AM
Hi Guys,
I am looking to invest in a L&W Signature cricket bat. Please provide your experience and recommendations on the cleft. Please select below link for the picture of this low density signature cleft. Thanks guys.

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/joydude630/LampWSignature.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/joydude630/media/LampWSignature.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on July 16, 2014, 09:02:18 AM
I've been lucky enough to have owned 3 Sigs (Sig only, not the Reserve as well) over the last 5 years and I can say that 2 of them were amongst the best 5 performing bats I have owned! The actual experience is ok hut no better than buying from someone like Affinity or Scat. If I can offer two bits of advice:
- make sure you are very specific about the FINISHED weight of your bat as all of the ones I got were up to 4 ounces heavier than I ordered.
- take your time on selecting your profile and get them to send you pictures from all angles so you know exactly what shape you get.
Overall, go for it mate!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 16, 2014, 10:21:27 AM
I've been lucky enough to have owned 3 Sigs (Sig only, not the Reserve as well) over the last 5 years and I can say that 2 of them were amongst the best 5 performing bats I have owned! The actual experience is ok hut no better than buying from someone like Affinity or Scat. If I can offer two bits of advice:
- make sure you are very specific about the FINISHED weight of your bat as all of the ones I got were up to 4 ounces heavier than I ordered.
- take your time on selecting your profile and get them to send you pictures from all angles so you know exactly what shape you get.
Overall, go for it mate!


Hi there. Thanks for the reply. Last month I did purchase a L&W Reserve Special Profile in 2.7lbs which I am very happy with (Click below link for the picture). I plan to get the same profile on the signature. Please advice.

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/joydude630/collage_20140716134637668.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/joydude630/media/collage_20140716134637668.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on July 16, 2014, 11:31:23 AM
Mate, if you know which profile you want, James will make a copy for you without any issues! I have tried the "Ultra" profile which, along with some clubmates just found to be a crap profile! Poor balance and a small (albeit) powerful middle just didn't gel with any of us. I don't reckon you will be disappointed but try and deal with James himself rather than the guy in his office as James is the guy who puts steel to willow for you!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 16, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
Mate, if you know which profile you want, James will make a copy for you without any issues! I have tried the "Ultra" profile which, along with some clubmates just found to be a crap profile! Poor balance and a small (albeit) powerful middle just didn't gel with any of us. I don't reckon you will be disappointed but try and deal with James himself rather than the guy in his office as James is the guy who puts steel to willow for you!

How do I get in touch with James as normally Anthony replies to all my emails..
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: tim2000s on July 16, 2014, 03:20:53 PM
How do I get in touch with James as normally Anthony replies to all my emails..
Just ask to speak to him.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 16, 2014, 04:04:04 PM
Just ask to speak to him.

Thanks Tim. But what do you think of the signature cleft?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: tim2000s on July 16, 2014, 04:19:04 PM
Thanks Tim. But what do you think of the signature cleft?
Decent enough cleft.  But I don't know what it weighs or how big a bat you want so I have no idea whether it is actually a good one (and my last two bats are butterflies so you shouldn't ask me).

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Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 16, 2014, 04:36:50 PM
Decent enough cleft.  But I don't know what it weighs or how big a bat you want so I have no idea whether it is actually a good one (and my last two bats are butterflies so you shouldn't ask me).

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Oh k. Going for 2.6lbs since it's a low density cleft. Kindly refer below comment from L&W regarding this signature cleft.

Light for its size, the less dense the willow the larger the lighter the profile will be for its size. Low density clefts are characterised by high performance. Not usually will you have both low density and straight grains in one cleft. These Clefts are usually set aside by manufacturers for professionals.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: potzy248 on July 16, 2014, 07:37:50 PM
If I had the money Id get it. I did enquire about it.
I bought a Sig last year and I can safely say it was the best performing bat I have ever had (Broke my wrist and had to change because of the weight). Like the other guys said though, make sure you specify the weight and don't let it get sent to you unless it is that weight. They always rectify any problems quickly but I just hate parting with any new bat.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 16, 2014, 08:04:46 PM
If I had the money Id get it. I did enquire about it.
I bought a Sig last year and I can safely say it was the best performing bat I have ever had (Broke my wrist and had to change because of the weight). Like the other guys said though, make sure you specify the weight and don't let it get sent to you unless it is that weight. They always rectify any problems quickly but I just hate parting with any new bat.

Hi Potzy, I did email him and asked him the below question. Awaiting confirmation from him regarding weight.

I need the bat to be dead weight of 2.6lbs with the grips, stickers etc. Is it possible to see pics showing me this weight on a electronic scale? This is because after the grips and stickers are on, the weight rises up. I need confirmation on the same.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on July 16, 2014, 08:33:26 PM
Hi Potzy, I did email him and asked him the below question. Awaiting confirmation from him regarding weight.

I need the bat to be dead weight of 2.6lbs with the grips, stickers etc. Is it possible to see pics showing me this weight on a electronic scale? This is because after the grips and stickers are on, the weight rises up. I need confirmation on the same.
Pretty pointless really, I've had 3 signatures, all have gained weight. Usually takes about 9-12 months b4 it happens. I recently sent one back for a refurb and it has come back an oz lighter. They are great bats, the company has probably the best customer service possible. Dint let the weight play to big an issue. 2-6 is exceptionally light, it will arrive at that weight no doubt but be prepared it may rise to 2-8, if you live in a not humid place. If your lucky enough to live somewhere warm you should be ok.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 16, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Pretty pointless really, I've had 3 signatures, all have gained weight. Usually takes about 9-12 months b4 it happens. I recently sent one back for a refurb and it has come back an oz lighter. They are great bats, the company has probably the best customer service possible. Dint let the weight play to big an issue. 2-6 is exceptionally light, it will arrive at that weight no doubt but be prepared it may rise to 2-8, if you live in a not humid place. If your lucky enough to live somewhere warm you should be ok.

Hi D7BOW. I just received a reply regarding the weight and here it goes. I stay in a freakish desert country which is known as Dubai, UAE where our winter temps are max 15 to 20 degrees and summers 40+ degrees lol..

We can confirm this dead weight on the scales before the bat is sent. Not a problem Joy. I will have this noted on your order details.
Additional note: Send photo of completed bat on electronic scales with dead weight of 2lbs 6ozs before sending.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: potzy248 on July 16, 2014, 09:41:07 PM
Perfect, and they will do that for you, liked others have said their customer service is the best around (and you do pay for it). It will be extremely light before the stickers and scuff sheet is added, but if it comes in at 2.6 with that profile then you are in for a treat.
Look forward to seeing the end result mate.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 17, 2014, 09:12:44 AM
Perfect, and they will do that for you, liked others have said their customer service is the best around (and you do pay for it). It will be extremely light before the stickers and scuff sheet is added, but if it comes in at 2.6 with that profile then you are in for a treat.
Look forward to seeing the end result mate.

Thanks Potzy248 for your help..Order placed and the turn around time is 2-3 weeks..Will upload the pictures once it arrives.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: rubbish_batsman on July 18, 2014, 07:24:05 AM
Joymarvin,  please be aware that I ordered from L&W on June 20th, and am still awaiting some confirmation that my bat is ready to be shipped.  Think at best expect turnaround time of approx. 4 weeks.  no doubt the wait will be worth it (one hopes).

That said,  mine wasn't a Signature, but a Private Bin bit of willow.  Maybe signature purchasers receive priority treatment.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: potzy248 on July 18, 2014, 07:49:20 AM
Joymarvin,  please be aware that I ordered from L&W on June 20th, and am still awaiting some confirmation that my bat is ready to be shipped.  Think at best expect turnaround time of approx. 4 weeks.  no doubt the wait will be worth it (one hopes).

That said,  mine wasn't a Signature, but a Private Bin bit of willow.  Maybe signature purchasers receive priority treatment.

Have you contacted them? They usually get back to you promptly. Yes sometimes things happen but they will tell you. It is worth the wait.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: rubbish_batsman on July 18, 2014, 08:31:42 AM
Didn't hear from them at all until I dropped them an email a week and half ago to enquire on progress.  They said if I needed the bat urgently they would get it to me by Monday just gone.  As I didn't want them to rush anything, they said they'd have it done by, well, yesterday.  Not had anything back so far notifying me of whether it's complete, been dispatched, etc etc.

So at moment am in bit of limbo wondering when it will arrive.  But as you said, it will (should) be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on July 18, 2014, 08:49:19 AM
Hi D7BOW. I just received a reply regarding the weight and here it goes. I stay in a freakish desert country which is known as Dubai, UAE where our winter temps are max 15 to 20 degrees and summers 40+ degrees lol..

We can confirm this dead weight on the scales before the bat is sent. Not a problem Joy. I will have this noted on your order details.
Additional note: Send photo of completed bat on electronic scales with dead weight of 2lbs 6ozs before sending.

Had a holiday in Dubai, stunning place. Weather was ok ;) 42 degrees and 90% humidity!! You should be fine, good luck with the bat and look forward to seeing the bat when she arrives.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: tejasapatel on July 18, 2014, 01:15:22 PM
I placed my order on June 19th was told around 2 week turn around plus the time in transit. I send them an email on Sunday night requesting updates. This was the response and nothing after that...

"Totally understood mate. Your bat will be leaving the workshop tomorrow. We can then provide you with pics and shipping info."

I would like to say the service overall has been great and Anthony has been prompt responding to my dozens of emails and answering all my questions.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 18, 2014, 01:23:28 PM
Joymarvin,  please be aware that I ordered from L&W on June 20th, and am still awaiting some confirmation that my bat is ready to be shipped.  Think at best expect turnaround time of approx. 4 weeks.  no doubt the wait will be worth it (one hopes).

That said,  mine wasn't a Signature, but a Private Bin bit of willow.  Maybe signature purchasers receive priority treatment.

Hi there, I ordered my L&W Reserve on June 18th and it reached Dubai through DHL on July 13. I dont think that signature purchasers receive priority treatment.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 18, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
Have you contacted them? They usually get back to you promptly. Yes sometimes things happen but they will tell you. It is worth the wait.

I agree with Potzy, they do get back promptly.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 18, 2014, 01:28:04 PM
Had a holiday in Dubai, stunning place. Weather was ok ;) 42 degrees and 90% humidity!! You should be fine, good luck with the bat and look forward to seeing the bat when she arrives.

Even I was born in Dubai, I cant bear the heat. Due to this we play cricket in the night but the humidity kills. Will surely click pictures and post them here which I am sure I will get her next month.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 18, 2014, 01:29:13 PM
I placed my order on June 19th was told around 2 week turn around plus the time in transit. I send them an email on Sunday night requesting updates. This was the response and nothing after that...

"Totally understood mate. Your bat will be leaving the workshop tomorrow. We can then provide you with pics and shipping info."

I would like to say the service overall has been great and Anthony has been prompt responding to my dozens of emails and answering all my questions.

I agree with you Tejas. Anthony does reply promptly even if you send dozen of emails.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 18, 2014, 01:34:35 PM
Hi Potzy & D7bow,
Mr Anthony did mention that I have a week and a half to any tweaks to the bat. I was thinking to go for a flat toe with the signature. What do you guys recommend flat or rounded?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Neon Cricket on July 18, 2014, 01:46:32 PM
Hi Potzy & D7bow,
Mr Anthony did mention that I have a week and a half to any tweaks to the bat. I was thinking to go for a flat toe with the signature. What do you guys recommend flat or rounded?

Personally I'd always go rounded - I've found flat toes to be more liable to cracking (which is the last thing you want if you're paying $$$!)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: potzy248 on July 18, 2014, 02:21:33 PM
Hi Potzy & D7bow,
Mr Anthony did mention that I have a week and a half to any tweaks to the bat. I was thinking to go for a flat toe with the signature. What do you guys recommend flat or rounded?

Totally up to you mate. I personally don't think it matters but what ever your preference is. I read somewhere that Sangakara liked them flat as it seemed bigger. Each to their own. I would just go for what James thinks.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on July 18, 2014, 04:01:44 PM
Hi Potzy & D7bow,
Mr Anthony did mention that I have a week and a half to any tweaks to the bat. I was thinking to go for a flat toe with the signature. What do you guys recommend flat or rounded?
not sure what a flat/square toe adds to a bat other than appearance. Mine have all been round. Then again your spending a lot of money so have the bat how you want it. Are you going for a lamitoe?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on July 18, 2014, 06:07:42 PM
Ok Guys, I have decided to go for the rounded toe only..
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 01, 2014, 07:21:24 AM
Hi Guys..Mr Anthony from L&W has sent me the pictures of SIGNATURE cricket bat for my reference. Click the below link and let me know what you guys think.

http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/temporary (http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/temporary)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Number4 on August 01, 2014, 07:22:58 AM
Can't see anything
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Neon Cricket on August 01, 2014, 07:42:21 AM
No picture there mate, upload it to photobucket?
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 01, 2014, 10:04:33 AM
Oops..Please check below link now..

http://s435.photobucket.com/user/joydude630/library/Mobile%20Uploads?sort=3&page=1 (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/joydude630/library/Mobile%20Uploads?sort=3&page=1)

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/joydude630/Mobile%20Uploads/photo1-5.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/joydude630/media/Mobile%20Uploads/photo1-5.jpg.html)
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/joydude630/Mobile%20Uploads/photo2-5.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/joydude630/media/Mobile%20Uploads/photo2-5.jpg.html)
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/joydude630/Mobile%20Uploads/photo3-3.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/joydude630/media/Mobile%20Uploads/photo3-3.jpg.html)
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/joydude630/Mobile%20Uploads/photo4-2.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/joydude630/media/Mobile%20Uploads/photo4-2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Gingerbusiness on August 01, 2014, 10:31:44 AM
That's one sexy bat!!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: toenails97 on August 01, 2014, 10:54:13 AM
Agreed...hopefully it performs for you aswell as it looks!!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Neon Cricket on August 01, 2014, 11:02:46 AM
Just a shame about that little mark under the signature sticker - other than that the face looks sublime and the profile is brilliant for a bat under 2.6
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: GarrettJ on August 01, 2014, 11:05:45 AM
Is that a fly or a knot on this £650 bat!!

Won't affect the performance but Jesus I'd hope it was perfect for the price.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: skip1973 on August 01, 2014, 11:10:54 AM
So if he used stickers that covered it the bat would be perfect? Looks a nice stick.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 01, 2014, 11:41:45 AM
Thanks guys for the replies. Not worried about that small knot. As long as it performs well in my hands..
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: GarrettJ on August 01, 2014, 12:10:21 PM
So if he used stickers that covered it the bat would be perfect? Looks a nice stick.

No it wouldn't but these are marketed as only having 5 suitable per year and being the symbol of perfection.

It's like buying a Ferrari with no bonnet, still works but you just can't look past it when you see it parked on the side of the street.

I have no doubt this bat is great, used 2 laver bats in 2005 and 2006 and they were very nice. I'm sure most of the badgers on here had never heard of them nearly 10 years ago!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: skip1973 on August 01, 2014, 12:18:00 PM
I don't think a perfect piece of willow in terms of looks exists, it's pretty much impossible in a naturally grown product.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: GarrettJ on August 01, 2014, 12:20:16 PM
I'm sure a few lads on here have some belting bats grains wise. There used to be a best grains thread, some belters in there!

It's definitely a great bat with great grains this Laver. Just the price but it's not my money.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: skip1973 on August 01, 2014, 12:21:22 PM
No it wouldn't but these are marketed as only having 5 suitable per year and being the symbol of perfection.

It's like buying a Ferrari with no bonnet, still works but you just can't look past it when you see it parked on the side of the street.

I have no doubt this bat is great, used 2 laver bats in 2005 and 2006 and they were very nice. I'm sure most of the badgers on here had never heard of them nearly 10 years ago!
I don't think a speck on the face is the same as no bonnet on a car, especially since a bat is made to hit hard leather balls that will leave marks a lot worse than this.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: skip1973 on August 01, 2014, 12:22:53 PM
I'm sure a few lads on here have some belting bats grains wise. There used to be a best grains thread, some belters in there!

It's definitely a great bat with great grains this Laver. Just the price but it's not my money.
Don't get me wrong I think they are overpriced as well, but I don't think you can get much better looking than this bat.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on August 01, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
£650 that's nuts, Salix get slaughtered in some circles for charging £400. That's a serious amount of money for a bat especially knotted regardless of how small.

Anyway that's just my initial reaction as long as your happy with it that's all that matters I guess.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: fasteddie on August 01, 2014, 12:51:02 PM
Looking at the profile I can see where he has taken weight off. It will either ping or not. Seems very all or nothing. Still, if you're happy then who cares what we think. Go for it and good luck.

The cost. Well, a team mate has one of these and I was perplexed, but if you look at the package, it makes sense. You get a copy in G1, and a bunch of other goodies. Salix just charge £490 for a bat.

I hope you really enjoy the bat and walk tall when you go and lay waste to many a bowler.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: tim2000s on August 01, 2014, 01:12:34 PM
Looking at the profile I can see where he has taken weight off. It will either ping or not. Seems very all or nothing. Still, if you're happy then who cares what we think. Go for it and good luck.

The cost. Well, a team mate has one of these and I was perplexed, but if you look at the package, it makes sense. You get a copy in G1, and a bunch of other goodies. Salix just charge £490 for a bat.

I hope you really enjoy the bat and walk tall when you go and lay waste to many a bowler.
According to the Laver website, it's GBP 550 for a signature bat alone, and GBP 1350 if you go for one of the ones that comes with a spare!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Nmcgee on August 01, 2014, 01:19:03 PM
For the price and exclusivity, I'd be super annoyed if there were any imperfections on a bat. If you want performance, buy an Aldred Butterfly. Anything resembling a knot on a bat like this and I'd be sending it back and "expressing my disappointment". You don't buy a signature like this for nice ping. You can get that on any Laver bat.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: fasteddie on August 01, 2014, 01:20:53 PM
According to the Laver website, it's GBP 550 for a signature bat alone, and GBP 1350 if you go for one of the ones that comes with a spare!

Ouch!

So it is sat alongside the £490 kent bat.

One does expect utter perfection at that price. Not sure how that can be delivered.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: ThatDriver on August 01, 2014, 01:33:03 PM
Love the grains. But like everyone has been saying, for the price, exclusivity I would expect a blemish free piece of willow. I'm sure it'll go like the clappers though. Let us know how it performs, and avoid yorkers.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 01, 2014, 01:39:01 PM
For me I take it as a cosmetic issue as it wont affect the performance. Yes many of you are right, paying so much for a exclusive bat should be clean, but since its a natural product I would not go back and express my disappointment. The knot is right at the end of the handle splice and I am not expecting any super ping on that specific area. This bat will not be competing for a beauty competition either way. Its not about the money I spent, its above the exclusivity only to me because life is short and I cant go around buying more signatures in the future. I just want to enjoy this bat in my hands, feel the balance while playing my strokes and score lots of runs.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: potzy248 on August 01, 2014, 03:00:32 PM
These guys are classic. As someone mentioned earlier if the sticker was longer then everyone would have been in awe. I have no issue at all with the price. I know I would use it to death and get my moneys worth. Id rather have one of these than 3 others that sit in my room "have 1 or 2 nets" and then end up in the for sale section. Bat looks beautiful and I'm sure it will be amazing. Well done.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 01, 2014, 03:29:05 PM
Thanks Potzy..I agree on the long sticker part..I have sold 3 bats so I can invest and afford this signature and will use till I get my money's worth..
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: abalfour239 on August 02, 2014, 01:00:01 PM
The bat looks fantastic mate - whether it will be worth every penny will be down to its user! I'm sure 99% of those mentioning the knot own nothing of the sort, perhaps a bit of jealousy ;)
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 02, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
The bat looks fantastic mate - whether it will be worth every penny will be down to its user! I'm sure 99% of those mentioning the knot own nothing of the sort, perhaps a bit of jealousy ;)

Thank you!!
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Cumbrian Pete on August 02, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
Good luck with the bat, you will definitely feel more confident walking out with a Laver in your hands and that could be the extra mental edge that takes you to big runs.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 02, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
Good luck with the bat, you will definitely feel more confident walking out with a Laver in your hands and that could be the extra mental edge that takes you to big runs.

Thanks Pete!! I hope to feel that way once I have the signature in my hands compared to other bats I have owned. Awaiting for it to be shipped.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: petehosk on August 03, 2014, 08:24:47 AM
Looks a very generously sized bat for the weight! Grains look fantastic and give it time to play in, as Lavers often take quite a while to really get going! But once they get going, they seriously perform!!
It looks a stunner, as it should do for that price! I have several Lavers myself and rate them highly, but I do agree that a knot should not really be there on a Sig!! I can only think that this willow is an absolutely awesome cleft what will ultimate  performance for you. If you don't mind paying that money and getting a knot in the willow then I'm sure you'll enjoy the performance and exclusivity the Sig will provide.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 03, 2014, 09:57:39 PM
Looks a very generously sized bat for the weight! Grains look fantastic and give it time to play in, as Lavers often take quite a while to really get going! But once they get going, they seriously perform!!
It looks a stunner, as it should do for that price! I have several Lavers myself and rate them highly, but I do agree that a knot should not really be there on a Sig!! I can only think that this willow is an absolutely awesome cleft what will ultimate  performance for you. If you don't mind paying that money and getting a knot in the willow then I'm sure you'll enjoy the performance and exclusivity the Sig will provide.

Thanks Pete for input. From I see it that this was a stunning piece of timber was shown to me as a raw cleft after the purchase confirmation. Every piece of willow will have minor 'imperfection' if you look closely enough especially with such a tight grain structure. This is nature doing the works. Like I said earlier, I dont expect a super ping where the knot is there. Once it opens up, it will perform and I will surely enjoy scoring runs with it.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Blaise on August 04, 2014, 11:34:24 AM
Cool bat - can't wait to hear how it goes. I would expect being a signature - it will go like the clappers! Looks awesome. I like the little knot and as long as it gets use - money well spent I reckon.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: AverageCricketer on August 04, 2014, 12:00:56 PM
That is what you would expect from a signature. Looks like it would score you a lot of runs.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: joymarvin on August 06, 2014, 06:38:36 PM
That is what you would expect from a signature. Looks like it would score you a lot of runs.

Thanks for your comment. This bat looks just different to me especially the grain structure..
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Cricketfan99 on March 30, 2015, 10:50:24 AM
If you have to save to buy a bat, (or budget the same thing) then in my view your not rich enough to have it in the first place. Rich people don't save they have the cash to do what they want. It may be just that it's something you always wanted so saving up for that wish is another thing. Life is for living. Spend money but within reason. You can't take it with you, but you don't want to be robbed of your money at the same time, I think.

If your an opening bat or one that bats 30/40/45 overs nearly every week, or twice a week or three times a week. Nets or t20 games... (0r are a sponsored or paid player)  then yes it would be vv nice. Otherwise I see many custom bat makers will be thinking what they are doing wrong that people are not coming to them for the same quality if not better, with a lot of saving along the way and more of a fitted bat, and a higher customer service and after sales experience... I don't know.

Title: Re: Signature
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on March 30, 2015, 11:01:45 AM
Not sure what your point is here, mate? Some people like to budget for their discretionary spending whereas some are fortunate enough to not have to budget for such things. I suppose it's all about goal setting: we all want to own our own home but most of us need to save (budget) for a deposit to afford one as opposed to buying your first home with cash...
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 30, 2015, 11:05:29 AM
Great thread revival to spout a load of BS there mate.

If you have to save to buy a bat, (or budget same thing) then in my view your not rich enough to have it in the first place.

1 - your grammar is atrocious.

2 - the fact that people save up or budget means they deserve it just as much (if not more so) than this with the money to spend without thinking about it. The first expensive bat I bought cost me a whole months wages, did I deserve it as much as a rich man who didn't need to think about the money to buy it? Of course I did, the maker doesn't care where the money comes from, your pay the same as everyone else and get the same service.
Did I deserve it more than a rich bloke because I saved for it? Maybe not, but I know I worked my (No Swearing Please) off to buy myself that bat and the satisfaction I felt when I got it in my hand was hard to rival.
Title: Re: Signature
Post by: horseman on March 30, 2015, 11:24:32 AM

1 - your grammar is atrocious.

 and the satisfaction I felt when i got it in my hand was hard to rival.
Can we move this to either of fattus' threads please.!!