Custom Bats Cricket Forum
Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: procricket on December 31, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
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Why do you prefer and why does it make a difference and if so why
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Ok , Firstly , i prefer my bat English made , i Like to know where my bat is made and to my specified specks , I am not keen for this factory made bats where i don't know where they come from etc ,
this is my reason for an English made preferably custom made bat , and what about yourself
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What bat do you have Punter
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got my salix custom made when i had my sponsorship deal last season , snapped it few weeks ago at nets though mate so on the look out for my next bat haha ,
what about yourself ?
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i use mainly Chase,,Laver, and Sareen Sports
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iv had a laver reserve that was a beauty , what's the sareen sports like ? never actually held one of them before ?
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Must say as good as anything i have used they produce some quality bats of that nobody can question...
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Must say as good as anything i have used they produce some quality bats of that nobody can question...
Interesting , may have a look at them , price depending off course , i would imagine they would be tad cheaper than leading manufacturers ?
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I prefer English made, as Asian bats of similar quality are no cheaper. Not to mention my doubt about the mass production in Asia. Each bat simply cannt be given as much time to perfect it.
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I love my custom Laver's, but also like RNS, BAS too much for feel / comfort and performance and absolutely value for money. SS are very good but pricey as well so rather would go for a custom bat in that price.
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Sorry , i no what an ss bat is , I thought you meant smasher bats , the bat Brendan Nash uses ?
misinterpreted
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Too a point i agree with you Jon but think the better bats from Asia are as good as the UK counterpart
My old drama not being custom made and struggling to find one that suited me was hard it good that Asad is around he has some top quality Asian made bats and a very good choice.
I like English made in front of me and do not mind paying that little big extra for this
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Too a point i agree with you Jon but think the better bats from Asia are as good as the UK counterpart
My old drama not being custom made and struggling to find one that suited me was hard it good that Asad is around he has some top quality Asian made bats and a very good choice.
I like English made in front of me and do not mind paying that little big extra for this
There are certainly some good looking ones around, particularly from CA from what I've seen.
I just can't see what more they offer. If we assume performance is equal and price is equal, I will go English every time. There has got to be a greater mark up/profit on Asian bats to which I resent.
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Good point Jon
Lets say a grade 2 cleft 30 pound a handle say 6-8 pound and stickers say 12 and lets say mis twine,glue at around 2 pound
work the profit margains for a grade two bat it cost £52 pound before somebody pressed and shaped
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Good point Jon
Lets say a grade 2 cleft 30 pound a handle say 6-8 pound and stickers say 12 and lets say mis twine,glue at around 2 pound
work the profit margains for a grade two bat it cost £52 pound before somebody pressed and shaped
Exactly. Someone is making a killing along the line. Asian bats are of course cheaper to make, otherwise brands would not outsource to have them made there. I'd happily buy and use Asian bats if their price reflected that.
Thats what got my goat about the sales thread the other day, that bat was offered with no provenance and was of a similar price to a H4L. I guarantee it cost less to make though.
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In some cases yes but in other no i get a blank ss ton grade 1 off asad for 120 and it is every bit as good as bats twice the price i think your right though the Indian market are making there prices higher in both bats and soft's....including the soft's branded by company's over here
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The main difference will be in the pressing, with English manufacturers putting more care and attention into their pressing and asian manufacturers less so and just going by a standard for each bat. Although asian bats are a bit of a lottery, you will get the odd one pressed perfectly, and some not so. The problem being with a lot of asian bats having poor toes due to the pressing.
Handles on asian bats can be poor too, with asian bats sometimes using cheaper quality handles.
I prefer English bats for this reason and will continue to support English based companies. Afterall, it all supports our economy!! Although I wouldnt mind trying an SS in the future as they seem very popular with this forum and i'm sure they churn out some mean bats.
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In some cases yes but in other no i get a blank ss ton grade 1 off asad for 120 and it is every bit as good as bats twice the price i think your right though the Indian market are making there prices higher in both bats and soft's....including the soft's branded by company's over here
I suppose. So it is effectively £80 stickers? Do we know why the blanks are not labelled? Seems an easy way of making more money, so why don't they do it?
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GJ
I think your right you have to shop harder to finds that match bat but when you do it is every bit as good as your English counterpart...
Handles i agree some are no more than sawdust and talcum powder but some are very good indeed..
I think i am seeing more and more Asian made bat in England and suggest it a mixture of price and quality the reason
For the blanks the reason there cheap because of the lesser mark up from Asad as he goes over and hand picks them and as far as iam aware is the only distributor of ss ton blanks in the uk
Then there the Uk market it a hard one with so many bat's been made by one company and the different prices although they have been all pressed at the same place
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In my opinion Asian made bats are not as good as English made bats for the following reasons.
English made bats have superior balance and pickup and the quality of pressing is streets ahead of Asian made bats
Not to mention that most if not all Asian made bats come with a round handle as I prefer the feel of an oval handle.
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I prefer English made as they feel more solid
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I probably can't tell, however I choose local makers because tney are local and cheaper than top end pakistan or indian. E. G. H4l and saf.
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Honestly, I amnot bothered if a bat is made in the UK or made in India. The only factors that influence my choice are feel and performance (rebound with a mallet or with my Dukes Ashes issue cricket ball).
If I can get the right bat for less, great. But I will certainly not pay more for a bat that does not feel right irrespective whether it is made in the UK or India or is made by Newbery (or any other UK batmaker)or SS (or any other Indian batmaker).
I do agree that pressing is an issue with Indian batmakers, but then if I am spending the money then I need to put in the effort to find the right bat at the lowest possible price.
Handles used by the likes of SS, BAS and SG are very good.
Every top end bat from Newbery or M&H or Salix will not feel or perform the same (assuming you are companing bats with the same weight and in the same profile). I have seen some Newbery Players bats which feel and tap-up better than a SPS bat in the same range and simialry for Salix Performace and Grade 1 bat.
Buying the most expensive bat from a top brand does not gaurantee performance (the final judging factor for any bat).
Has anyone tried a blind test to compare a UK made bat with a bat amde in India, just based on the feel and the performance?
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Since a lot of folks seem to be unhappy with the pressing of the toe on indian bats, was wondering if a lot of knocking in can remedy the toe? Or is it just a wasted effort?
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There are certainly some good looking ones around, particularly from CA from what I've seen.
I just can't see what more they offer. If we assume performance is equal and price is equal, I will go English every time. There has got to be a greater mark up/profit on Asian bats to which I resent.
Someone once went to AS factory and they were told a G1 cleft costs around 45 Pounds including shipping (which is only for cleft no handle etc). So this bat is then sold for something near 100 pounds whereas for UK batmakers G1 cleft cost is fraction of what Asian batmaker pay.
So my point in concise manner is that Asian batmakers have to pay for shipping, customs etc whereas for English batmaker it is usually close to free.
In my opinion Asian made bats are not as good as English made bats for the following reasons.
English made bats have superior balance and pickup and the quality of pressing is streets ahead of Asian made bats
Not to mention that most if not all Asian made bats come with a round handle as I prefer the feel of an oval handle.
If you contact the factory directly then some have them. For example, MB Malik in Pakistan. I thought they only had round handles but when I ordered my bats they did have oval/semi ovals.