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[petehosk]

Seeing as I haven't been able to get on the forum for 24 hours I have to say what an extremely poor effort from England. Rabada humiliated the batting 2 innings in a row.. Poor show from England... I'm sure you will all say "oh well we won the series". Sorry doesn't cut it with me boys... That was just plain terrible

I agree - didn't see the Test but judging by everything I have heard, England were terrible!
We do the same against the Aussies and SA, and it is not good! We win the series and then just don't bother with anything after!!
You rarely catch the Aussies or SA just relaxing and not bothering if they win a series - their mentality is to continue to push and crush the opposition no matter what! And we need to find that same sort of mentality!!!

[Johnny]

So, my theory on the dead rubber woes: Truly great teams make winning seem effortless. I'm sure the more you win the easier I gets, and that winning becomes a habit.

England aren't there yet and the level of effort/concentration to win test matches/series is taking a lot out of them. However, if they continue on their current path I believe their stamina will build

[procricket]

Bit late for me this but credit where credit is due that Rabada looks a real find young quick and hungry and Bavuma looks organised and very high class .

They simply wanted it more I think what have England learned, nothing new batting is the weakness some need to prove there good enough some have been found out I suspect there not.

Work to be done no doubt but so much positives for me we like many teams need to work on areas and improve things to become a truly world class side but we are moving in the right direction.

Must for me the opening slot we need to find somebody for me Lees at Yorkshire has to be given a go and  the keeping need to be improved.

But what do I know but I know one thing we won the series and there optimism in my mind

Was not a good end though

[northernboy1987]

the keeping need to be improved.

I think they'll stick with Bairstow and I think he'll improve much in the same way that Prior did, he seems the type of lad who's prepared to work hard and put the graft in, I'm sure his keeping will come good.

[sanredrose]

Picking lines out of context mate ? 

[dannyhall04]

I agree that the opener who scores the most runs before the first Test shouldn't just be picked on that. But the game is a lot about runs, he hasn't got them and so people are going to speculate about his place. Same with Compo and JT, too! 

[ProCricketer1982]

Test cricket isn't as simple as 'whoever scores the most gets a spot'.. It's so much more than that (or should be), it's about mental ability, technical ability, heart, fight and how your game fits with what the team needs (notice I don't give a white if your a prat and hate everyone.. Pro sportsman so get on with what you're paid to do even if you hate each other.. It's not amateur cricket after all)

Hales for all I care can go back and smash 3 100's first lvcc games back.. He's still not good enough for test cricket (unless a road is prepared, in which case just pick biffers). Surely it's not frigging hard to look at all the players and work out who has the technical ability and mental state, after all.. What the hell are all these paid professional analysts and coaches bloody doing at the ecb

Hales to anyone with even a slight knowledge of cricket can see hales was never going to be any use in tests, let alone top order (excluding flat tracks as that completely negates the point of test cricket and makes runs way too easy (case in point is the recent aus vs ind pitches etc (odi's I know but aus produce similar in tests))

[sfa82]

Attended a reception yesterday where the England Men's and Ladies teams were present. All the players were really pleasant and willing to have a chat and sign items. Test players left on Tuesday even already. They were so professional in their interaction with the guests.

[FattusCattus]

It's the modern, sterilized, media-friendly age. Where's the era of the players downing several pints and p*ssing in the ornamental flower-pots?

And I'm talking about the women.

[alexhilly1492]

Just seen that Trevor Baylis has said Compton and hales could switch in the order, might not be the worst idea ever!


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[ppccopener]

clever Trevor.
a little bit of pressure off Hales and a sign England are prepared to give him a decent run. debatable of course whether he is the right one to give a run too(Lyth personally for me) but we cannot chop and change all the time...

very impressed with Bayliss so far and Farbrace.

[sfa82]

It's the modern, sterilized, media-friendly age. Where's the era of the players downing several pints and p*ssing in the ornamental flower-pots?

They certainly came across as well trained and very aware of protocol. Hats off to them though for the way they acted and still engaged with the other guests.

[alexhilly1492]

clever Trevor.
a little bit of pressure off Hales and a sign England are prepared to give him a decent run. debatable of course whether he is the right one to give a run too(Lyth personally for me) but we cannot chop and change all the time...

very impressed with Bayliss so far and Farbrace.

Yeah I was impressed with farbrace in the nz series! I think England need a more laid back style coach to let the players do what they need! Also cook seems to have improved as skipper since moored left as well!


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