Topic: READY PRESS - and the science behind it. (Read 38069 times)

procricket · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2015, 07:18:36 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on March 10, 2015, 03:54:11 PM

I arrived late to the partay...

Some questions for you:
1. What are the factors that you look for when determining the needed level of pressing for a willow? Is it grain, weight, level of moisture?
2. Does level of pressing differ due to willow quality/weight/moisture level? Or, all clefts are pressed equally?
3. Is it possible to determine the quality of rebound of a willow before it is pressed?
4. Do clefts with 5-7 gains require more pressing than clefts with 8-20+ gains?

Ali as this is a B3 process and one we have worked hard for unfortunately we shall not be revealing on a forum as it Company property and part of the research which is ongoing.

What i can say is it is nearly possible to tell cleft will press better but i can't do it Streaky and one of the apprentices can though it something about structure they look for i can't!!!

Cleft with more grains tend to be stiffer so work what you will with that but our job is to get them all up to a good standard.

Within each grade you get some strange variants as it natural but there is a pattern but there always a curve ball there currently a 1 stripe in the shop that is 2-9 i think which in my eyes is the best i have tapped up at a initial stage.

Northern monkey · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2015, 07:38:04 PM »

Cheers Dave

Pressing bit is what intrigues

leatherseat · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2018, 08:50:32 AM »

This fantastic topic poses and answers some of the most commonly debated points on the whole forum. It deserves at ;east abump back tot he top of the B3 section.

Admin, could we make this a sticky (perhaps in the Bat Care/ Bat making section)?

David

Buzz · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2018, 09:41:50 AM »

Why not!

JK Lewis · « **Reply #19 on:** November 02, 2018, 10:18:29 AM »

Really interesting thread, thanks for all the comments. Totally understand about protecting IP, but there's plenty to glean from everything contributed.

Couple questions from my side. I've had different people press clefts for me over the past years. Sometimes they have pressed the whole cleft as is, but on other occasions it has been pressed when part shaped. Is there a better way, or is it just at the preference of the batmaker?

Secondly, I've also heard talk of 'final pressing', suggesting that one pressing may not be enough. Any thoughts on this?

urban.monk · « **Reply #20 on:** March 26, 2024, 08:07:08 PM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on March 10, 2015, 06:54:25 PM

Do B3 press and test each cleft individually ? Say for instance ,the same way Paul Aldred does

Do you press the clefts once? Or multiple times at different stages?

What do you do if you over press a cleft?

I've a Blue classic from Paul, got it last year in may at the start of season. The bat's been pressed so hard, even after 1 season it still refuses to open. Hitting the ball feels like, hitting it with a fire wood. The rebound area is so small, that it's unbelievable. I've 4 other bats with 4 other manufacturers, and all of them perform way way better than Paul's (and 3 of them are way cheaper as well.

And the handle of the bat, you got to have massive hands to hold it. I guess that is one way he tries to balance his bats cause most of them are over 2,12. Absolute waste of money.

my 2 cents.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #21 on:** March 26, 2024, 08:18:46 PM »

Crikey! Where did that come from?

Cpatel93 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 26, 2024, 08:39:31 PM »

I'm not sure about the ready press but I've never tapped up a bad bat made by TK or Andrew Kember

I will buy bats from them for as long as they're making bats and I need (or want) a bat

procricket · « **Reply #23 on:** March 26, 2024, 08:45:00 PM »

Ready press oh the days�

The truth is simpler than people think.

It why a uniformal grains (even spread of grains a cross the blade/ are easier to press.
And yes I have pressed several in my days down there I�m no master but I understand the lack of science in it the truth is quite simple.

All the batmakers on here will explain ready press

Chad · « **Reply #24 on:** March 26, 2024, 11:44:46 PM »

Quote from: urban.monk on March 26, 2024, 08:07:08 PM

I've a Blue classic from Paul, got it last year in may at the start of season. The bat's been pressed so hard, even after 1 season it still refuses to open. Hitting the ball feels like, hitting it with a fire wood. The rebound area is so small, that it's unbelievable. I've 4 other bats with 4 other manufacturers, and all of them perform way way better than Paul's (and 3 of them are way cheaper as well.

And the handle of the bat, you got to have massive hands to hold it. I guess that is one way he tries to balance his bats cause most of them are over 2,12. Absolute waste of money.

my 2 cents.

That's a shame - I have found Paul's press can be quite firm, but think all of the ones I've had pass through my hands have performed decently. The super thick 2 spring handles won't help with the hard feel, and you're right, they do come on the much thicker side by default. Stick with what works for you in the end

B3 was a funny one - I did feel sometimes they just felt overpressed, but at times they'd get it spot on. I believe they've gotten a lot more consistent over the years

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #25 on:** March 27, 2024, 11:01:31 AM »

When i went up to see Blathers and check out their set-up he openly admitted it's something they are learning more about.

Its something that can ruin a perfectly good piece of willow if not done correctly and where the skill lies in the feel each bit of wood needs to extract optimum performance from it.

SD · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2024, 07:32:11 PM »

I have had a few bats from B3, most have been excellent (albeit pressed with the firm feel that has been characteristic of most GMs I have used and may not be to everyone's preference). I had one that wasn't good at all and B3 made me a replacement which was very good.

From my experience, bat makers don't always get it right with pressing and I have come across planks from most brands I have used. What differentiates brands is their response if you aren't content. B3 were excellent in my case. I am not sure I have ever come across anyone who has anything but terrible things to say about the customer service from Paul Aldred

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2024, 11:07:48 PM »

The funny things is mr P is always doing videos saying his customer service is what he prides on

And a bat doesn�t leave workshop he would not use himself when he was a pro �

Neon Cricket · « **Reply #28 on:** March 28, 2024, 07:23:30 AM »

Quote from: SD on March 27, 2024, 07:32:11 PM

What differentiates brands is their response if you aren't content.

Couldn't agree more, and that goes for warranties/repairs too IMO - there's such a huge differential between brands, especially on what is deemed 'warrantable'. I'm well aware I've been probably too lenient over the years replacing bats when it was absolutely the users fault, but then it's those customers that are still coming back year on year as opposed to switching to another brand so it levels off eventually (or at least I like to think it has!

).

Obviously don't speak for everyone, but personally if I had a bad experience with a company I certainly wouldn't be going back with the amount of options out there nowadays.

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