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[RightArmRapid]

the Icon picks up better than a Flare and 95% of bats in my opinion. It is an odd one. Might be worth checking the edge profile, the Icon has a fair amount of weight in the shoulders. The other thing with the Flare is the edges are big and spine relatively small. If you were to chop the bottom 20cms off each bat you'd probably find the toe on the flare was heavier than the Icon due to the lack of concaving. ie. Icon is less toe heavy. The Icon I believe has a higher spine than the Flare, which kind of backs up Chads thoughts about weight down the middle of bats.

With regards to weight down thew spine, don't most concaved bats have high spines? Wouldn't that suggest that concaved bats pick up better, or am i completely misreading this here! I do find this to be an interesting topic as it is something I've wondered for a while.

[RightArmRapid]

Scratch that, looked at a bunch of bats and the icon gm+ has a mahoosive booty compared to a lot of other bats. Then again it's the heaviest bat I and most of my friends have.

[uknsaunders]

alot of concaved bats go all "toblerone". They have big edges but extend flat or scoop slightly down before eventually poking back up in a inverted "V" nearer the middle of the bat. Adidas Pellera is one that springs to mind but many concaved bats carry this profile. The Icon+ has a gradual steeper curve, still concaved but not to within an inch of it's life. Icon+ has bigger edges, but a standard Icon has typically smaller edges than a normal concaved bat (around 30mm). Imho it sits between a traditional and concaved profile.