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[Tumo]

Mike, when they say "English Willow grown in the UK nurtured in India" is this mean the clefts are EW grown in england then shipped elsewhere (india) where they are stored until ready to be processed into bats or just a confusing mis statement?

To nurture means to grow, so that means they are grown in both the UK and India... That's weird.

[pacman75cricket]

English willow grown in India

[Talisman]

NO, it means they have taken a strain of willow from the UK and planted it in India, this does not make it English, the properties of English willow cannot be replicated in another country.

The only people using this phrase are people trying to con you.

[steelcouch]

As it goes quite a few chamagne houses buy up grapes from the south of England as it does display the same characteristics as French grapes
although I am not so sir the se can be said of willow grown in Asia as they are completely different climates and the willow comes up heavy

but are there any other different characteristics to Asian wood or can you make the same bat out of it but it would be 2 lb heavier?

[Talisman]

The structure of the willow is the factor, there is a long slow growing season in the UK plus water all year round, this lays down an even steady growth of wood, but the other climates force a rapid short spurt and the willow produced in Kashmir has higher density and is more brittle.

[steelcouch]

Sounds like it would make good firewood though

[Talisman]

Indeed it does, a true multi purpose wood, willow here burns too bright, I must get a picture of my Mothers fire when she starts it as she uses the sawn off waxed ends and broken part made bats sawn in two....

[steelcouch]

Has James tried growing it in nz?

[awp]

thank guys, that helps.  Obviously stick to EW grown in England!

[Talisman]

It is called English as it comes from England, I need a radical name for willow grown in Kashmir....

[Vic Nicholas]

Has James tried growing it in nz?

NZ South Island climate is similar to the UK as are places like Washington State and Oregon in the USA.

No reason English style willow cannot be grown elsewhere if the climate is similar.

[Talisman]

What you are looking for a is a site with constant running water nearby, a short mild winter so not really more than -5C at worst, a warm summer so not really more than 25C at max and a lack of high winds.

I have had willow from other countries but it has not worked out so far, there may be better coming in the future.

[harry kovert]

What you are looking for a is a site with constant running water nearby, a short mild winter so not really more than -5C at worst, a warm summer so not really more than 25C at max and a lack of high winds.

I have had willow from other countries but it has not worked out so far, there may be better coming in the future.

Hope your not referring to those Ikea bats from Sweden you showed me yesterday : ]

[Talisman]

You can be honest and admit you are saving hard for the big one......

[harry kovert]

You can be honest and admit you are saving hard for the big one......

I will be honest and say I have a few too many bats already and as much as I'd like that Instinct or something similar in proportions my wallet will be staying firmly in my pocket......for now! [Do let me know if you get something similar in at an ounce lighter and with a ever so slightly lower middle.]