Topic: muscling up (Read 5637 times)

steiner · « **on:** March 12, 2011, 12:09:06 AM »

Does anyone have any thoughts re. piling on muscle? as I find it really noticeable over the last year or 2 the amount of players that seem to be building themselves up.

England seem to be the main exponents - admitedlly Tremlett has always been built like an out-house but Pietersen, Strauss, Bresnan, Anderson, Shazad have really noticeably beefed up.

This seems a new thing - can only think of Hayden and Akhtar maybe of previous generations who carried much muscle, indeed in the case of Akhtar and Shane Watson it's always been cited as a cause of their numerous injuries.

Just wandering in light of this apparent sea-change in thinking whether anyone has had experience of bulking up and whether this has had a positive effect on their game?

Buzz · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2011, 07:39:07 AM »

A lot of the batsmen do it to look good on the beach and on the balcony in their vest tops, with the guns and tattoos out

the bowlers do it to improve stamina, speed and consistency

but then I am a bitter, jealous weedy batsman with no tat's and who looks rubbish in a vest!!!!!!!!

roco · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2011, 07:44:12 AM »

The benifits are obsvious but if your doing it to help your game you are better off toning up not bulking up as too much muscle will hinder fast bowling but may help batting

To bulk up eat chicken best way lots of chicken and beef forget all these protein shakes and crap unless you can afford �100+ a month to do it right as my mate does

Do you want to bulk up or tone up then as bulk up high weight low reps tone up low weight high reps

Tumo · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2011, 07:58:11 AM »

Quote from: roco on March 12, 2011, 07:44:12 AM

The benifits are obsvious but if your doing it to help your game you are better off toning up not bulking up as too much muscle will hinder fast bowling but may help batting

To bulk up eat chicken best way lots of chicken and beef forget all these protein shakes and crap unless you can afford �100+ a month to do it right as my mate does

Do you want to bulk up or tone up then as bulk up high weight low reps tone up low weight high reps

Don't have to spend �100+ a month on protein shakes. Most of the companies use the same formula, just slightly different tasting. Maximuscle are one of the most highly rated, I used them for a while because my gym gave me free stuff from them. However my housemate, who's a rugby leaguer, uses this stuff http://www.predatornutrition.com/pd-syngex-5lb-free-predator-shaker.cfm it works for him, and if you take one a day, or 2 every day that you train, you get a good 1.5-2 months worth of it. �32 as well. However roco's right, bulking up means doing fewer reps of a higher amount.
It does have a decent impact on your game, more power, and more muscular endurance as well. It'll also have a psychological effect, if you notice you've gotten bigger you'll feel as though you can hit the ball harder, and probably will due to the psych. effects of it!

pacman75cricket · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:12:17 AM »

Be interested what difference it makes to power can see bulking up helping for pulls etc where bottom hand comes into play more not so sure about drives as think you need to ensure timing in place.

roco · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:24:01 AM »

Did not mean �100 on just protein shakes my mate uses the shakes plus lean tablet things plus this plus that I just used chicken beef weights and beer then went from 11st to 17st then trimmed back up to a slim looking 16st

steiner · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:45:30 AM »

Just seems like a change of approach of late - always thought overly bulky was a kind of negative for cricketers.

Tempted to put it down to IPL - more muscle=bigger hits=bigger paydays but in Englands case it seems to be driven by Flower - read about them carrying a brick in each arm all day etc. so they obviously have some theory behind it.

roco · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:52:42 AM »

its all down to teams wanting to be fitter so they tone up more been a growing trend for many years

KGM · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2011, 09:23:42 AM »

If you are lookin for supplements try http://www.myprotein.com/uk/pages/home or http://www.bodybuildingwarehouse.co.uk/

peplow · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2011, 10:42:23 AM »

myprotein is good, just dont sign up for their emails, as you get like 3 a day haha!

Outlaw · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2011, 02:30:00 PM »

I wouldnt say any teams or players are as bulky as your making out. The players have increased overall fitness as times change more emphesis has been put on fitness training and strict diets which means players are fitter than ever hence lower body fat percentages which shows off more muscle tone but it is just tone very little size as such with the odd exception such as Shoaib but I'm sure thats down to the gear he's been taking over the years as his water retention is ridiculous! But for anyone wanting to bulk up I work in this field 90% of all results are in the diet, nail your diet e.g 1g of protein per lb of body weight sometimes 2g per lb depending on your goals. Only 10% of results are down to training ideally if you want to increase power/size I'd go with a 5 x 5 set/rep or an 8 x 8 depending again on goals! Supplements should always be used as part of a programme but they are only to supplement your diet and arent miracle workers. Sorry for rambling can talk for hours on things like this!

steiner · « **Reply #11 on:** March 12, 2011, 06:15:25 PM »

Outlaw - would you happen to have any links to sample meal plans for such things?

always find it a chore working out %s of fat/protein/carbs etc and would like to just be able to use a 'cheat' menu to start with to take the working out out of the equation.

cheers

Rik · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:21:05 AM »

Depends on what you mean by bulking up, if you train specifically to get larger you will develop a mix of muscle fibres and that won't be overly beneficial to your game as it is mainly based around achieving a look.

However if you train with the intention of just improving your physical conditioning and don't worry about looks it will definitely help you out in the long run. Sprint training alone will improve your ability to recover from short, sharp bursts of running which will help with your running between the wickets and mobility in the field too.

Outlaw · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:09:11 PM »

You genetically have a mix of muscle fibres anyway and as cricket is a mix of various things a range of muscle fibres is beneficial. By doing sprint training also are aiding the conversion of slow to fast twitch fibres which is what I think your claiming is unbeneficial in the first part of your post! Also bulking up is not all about achieving a look strongmen do purely bulking and that is based around achieving pure power/mass, cutting is more of achieving a look as you aim to strip bodyfat whilst retaining muscle mass. And Steiner there's plenty of diet plans on the internet however these are just a bog standard outline obviously it all comes down to your individual goals/needs as to what you eat as people are different and also the source/manufacturer of foods can also lead to a different nutritional breakdown but to put it simply anyone wanting to purely bulk up needs to eat big and eat clean and supplement well.

Rik · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2011, 04:52:22 AM »

I've no desire to argue. I feel you bring some good knowledge to the conversation Outlaw, however I also think you are slightly misinformed.

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