Topic: Heavy Handle (Read 13949 times)

skippy · « **on:** December 12, 2008, 06:12:53 PM »

This is probably one for norbs or another batmaker but... what do you think would happen if someone made a handle with a weight in the top? Would it pick up a lot better? Also would wrapping Lead tape around my bat handle have any effect? If so what?

Thanks

sultanofswing · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2008, 06:38:48 PM »

Apperently alot of pros do this, i think there were some pics on another forum of matt priors bat with a large bulge n his handle. I just wrapped a load of electrical tape around the top of my handle and it did seem to improve the pickup. The bat didnt feel heavier to hold but it felt lighter in back lift

Howzat · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2008, 06:59:08 PM »

Called a counter weight

Talisman · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2008, 08:03:39 PM »

Matt Prior does not use counter weights, I know, he is using bats I delivered to him.

Newbery used to make a Multi Balance bat which was the shape of the Mjolnir with changeable weights in the top of the handle so that you could alter the pick up. I have one here which is close to 3lb but picks up more like 2.11.

Coach · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2008, 09:56:54 PM »

Talisman any chance of pictures of the multibalance? A.B. DeVillars is a prime example of the lead tape situation. Also electrical tape wouldnt be heavy enough you would have to use an incredable amount of it to be able to feel it. Try lead tape or an extra grip rolled up. However electrical tape is good for changing the shape of the handle which will change the feel.

sultanofswing · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2008, 10:28:37 PM »

well i think matt prior puts something around top of the handle

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvind/content/image/308545.html

might not need to do it on all bats but it looks like he has done, and i have seen a clearer pic n another forum

Talisman · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2008, 11:31:40 PM »

No thats just the way some handles look, that was before the bats I delivered but they would have been the same make. I have one somewhere that is signed by him, I think it may be in storage at my parents so don't ask for photo's but I will try and dig it out.

Howzat · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2008, 09:39:56 AM »

I know I've seen Jaques Kallis using a counter balance, cant find any photos sorry!

gramw · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:39:31 AM »

kallis and de villiers both use a counter balance

matt bell does it aswell

sehwag

Talisman · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2008, 06:30:59 PM »

Some batsmen have the baseball style end to control their hand placement, if you need counterweights your bat maker needs changing.

SAF Bats · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2008, 06:56:59 PM »

Here is what I think about it all...

Pick up of a Cricket bat and adding a grip or weights to the handle
Ok you�ve added a grip or some sort of weight to the handle because the cricket bat you have bought picks up like a railway sleeper. The cricket bat feels better with regards to picking up but all of a sudden you�re getting bat vibration from the where the middle was.

The techie bit, only a little bit!
The point at which you get the least vibration from the bat is called the coefficient of percussion [COP]. I think I�ve discussed this before so take a look at another article for the infomation on this.

Hmmmm, by adding weight, e.g. an extra grip, you move the centre of mass or the balance point of the cricket bat towards the handle and this moves the COP [the point of least vibration]. That is because the coefficent of percussion is related to the total mass of the cricket bat, the balance point and the moment of inertia�..

So what does that mean?
The cricket bat picks up better but all of sudden the middle feels like it has shifted by about an inch all because of the extra weight at the handle end!

Richie · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2008, 07:35:53 PM »

So does this mean that the middle actually moves or just you feel that it moves?

SAF Bats · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2008, 08:15:38 PM »

One of the sweep spots on the bat is the [COP] The idea when making bat is to get everything in the right place so it all works together. If the COP is where the main meat on the bat is you lose some o the effectiveness of the bat. To answer your question you'll find it feels different and have less power in places for the original configuration. [I hope that makes sense]

Richie · « **Reply #13 on:** December 14, 2008, 09:11:00 PM »

Yeah totally get you. Great explanation btw, helped alot! So the idea of a heavy handle would only really work if you made the bat around the handle, because if it is fitted afterwards the bat's configuration will be altered.

SAF Bats · « **Reply #14 on:** December 15, 2008, 12:40:44 PM »

Ummm yes and no, it alters the bat characteristics it doesn't make the bat unplayable, we talking about one of the techie performance factors for ping... The thing is bat makers shape the bats based on what they know from experience will work. By someone changing that from the standard then you are changing the design that the bat maker choose for that particular piece of willow when he made it. If you are getting a handmade bat ask for a thicker handle or make sure you try out the pickup as there is no point in getting a bat that it a few week time has 2 extra grips on it or a metal weight screwed into the handle.

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