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Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« on: December 21, 2008, 09:01:34 PM »

I have just come off a long series of umpiring various junior age and special event carnivals. For the most part these carnivals were great fun but from time to time serious problems in the sport were seen.

In each of the competitions there were a minority of coaches who believed that they and their team were bigger than cricket. Invariably these coaches had their own idea on how the rules should be 'interpretted' (always in their favour of course) and that the world was against them. This persecution complex soon rubs off on the teams by the way.

1. Two Chucking Problems.
It would seem that since the change in the law chucking is becoming much more prevalent in junior cricket. I know a number of coaches who rigorously coach to stop it in players where they find out but it seems that a number of coaches try to gain an advantage by playing outright chuckers. In the first game it was obvious that the offspinner chucked two deliveries out of his array of attack. After discussing the obvious problem with the bowler he admitted he believed as a self taught bowler he pushed the limits but his coach had told him that no umoire would be game to call or report him. Wrong folks. At the start of the game the coach had been uncooperative on almost everything and twice had told his team not to take notice of the umpires directions. Short discussion later it was all the umpires fault, lol. After the game I met with the boys father who confessed he thought he chucked. Outside coaching has been arranged but his current coach believes I was way too harsh.

The second case was for a fast bowler who didn't just chuck but pegged a percentage of deliveries. He had been reported the day before and I was asked to watch him. Well pegging it was. Again the coach was uncoooperative before play, during and afterwards. It even got to the stage of refusing to bring water to the umpires at more than regular drinks breaks due to the heat and humidity. Don't worry coach I believe you just lost your coaching psoition. This player, broadly due to the coach's stupidity will go through the process of rectification. Dont worry coach, the parents can the blame the umpires from now on because he will be called in future. It is your job as coach to see these problems don't arise not the umpires in the game. Oh and selectors you knew his action was more than suspect so why did you pick him at this stage.

2. The Umpires are the Enemy.
This is a strange attitude a number of coaches have for some reason. It might be that thier own, and thir teams, lack of talent need an enemy that is not thier opponent. These teams under such coaches always stretch the boundaries. The most offensive team was a walking (and losing) disaster. I umpired them on day two of a tournament with a great First Grade umpire. So there were two very experienced umpires at the match. The coach of the team didn't even bother to acknowledge us when we made our prematch rounds and was openly hostile. In the first six overs of the match we saw every imaginable transgression from them. Above the waist, and slightly higher, balls from the opening bowlers. The Law was enforced here and after two early by one opener the captain asked why he was being warned. Seems he has never heard of the law in question. Well he and his coach have now. Clapping while the bowler was running in and bowling, talking at the same time, fieldsmen moving sideways, loud appeals for nothing and then it got down to personal sledging and at the first wicket a send off of all send offs.
Well the umpires then had a team meeting. The coach paced the sidelline and wanted to come on the field but was waved away. The game proceeded in an orderly fashion after that except well into their batting time the coach tried to extract his revenge. He ran water bottles on to the umpires that had been sitting all day in the hot sun. Old trick coach, we just held the game up until cold water was found. The team perfomed well below expectation, gee I wonder why!!!
In another carnival that I did not umpire in a senior umpire and one of the best senior schoolboy coaches ever in the state (just look at his results) was serious verbally abused by a coach after a match. The verbal attack was so vicious that the umpire that he is considering giving cricket away. Apparently nothing was done by the appointed 'umpires coordinator' for the tournament (whatever that is) to seek proper and correct redress.

3. Umpires Aren't Alays Right.
In a game played for pleasure, no points for it, a young and rather inexperienced umpire, had a serious clash with one of the best cricket coahes in the world. It was over the state of the wicket. I had inspected it on my way to my ground out of curiousity and it was unplayable due to a large wet area on a length at one end. apparently the umpire was not experienced enough to understand the consequences but the coach was. There are times when umpires are wrong. the problem is the umpire still doesn't realise he was wrong and the great coach probably has a set against one umpire at least. But I know he is coach is man enough and smart enough not let this happening effect his judgement in similar tournaments at a later time. I hope the umpire has leaned something.

In these tournaments there needs to be understanding and cooperation from all parties. The effect of a coach's attitude on young players can be long lasting and sometimes it is not the best for the game.

I will have two more posts on this later, one one games rules and the other on spectators.

Oh and if one more coach or parent wants to lecture me on their version of 'duty of care' there will be a redress of the situation.

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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 09:08:33 PM »

fully agree with that art, just want to ask what does pegging mean?
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2008, 09:16:50 PM »

Roughly an action like a basball pitch or at least nearly that extreme as a chuck.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2008, 10:56:25 PM »

Dear me, how are Australia so good at cricket with things like this happening? Ok I only live in a small part of the UK, but I have never heard such poor coaching and "mentoring" of players by coaches. It's shocking.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2008, 11:06:10 PM »

I would agree Arthur, there has only been 2 times someone's action has been questioned when i've been playing:

One when this lad had never played cricket before and I was umpiring- we agreed that he could bowl an over.
The other was questioned and was watched but no action was taken.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2008, 11:06:49 PM »

These types of incidents seem to happen regurlarly in australia while here in england its a rare occasion in our league anyway.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2008, 12:07:58 AM »

Hey art which junior championships have you umpired this year. The under 14 state championships that i was at seem to ran pretty well without these types incidents occuring.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 12:27:30 AM »

Which week was that Sambo. Given all the different ones I am now a little confused between what was what in the under age cricket scene.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2008, 08:29:29 AM »

Week just gone mate, they were held in bundaberg.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2008, 08:58:48 AM »

I did the Under 14 in Brisbane that started about three weeks ago then the Southern Skies then the Under 13 last week.

Mostly it was great fun. Then again I mostly have fun when umpiring.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2008, 11:52:21 PM »

Art i must have had you umpire one of my games before, can you post a mug shot of yourself?

Thanks mate i want to see what you look like then i will be able to see
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2008, 12:05:24 AM »

Well you say this stuff does not happen in england and it probally does not!.

We have a guy playing for our 1sts from kent, plays kent second 11 and is 24.  He said as captain he had been reported in almost every game for swearing or sledging.  He said he got reported for the batsman outside edging though the slips for 4 twice in a row and he said "mate you truely are a uselesst c**t! lol

In my first grade debut a few weeks back i got 2 catches!! no byes!! yea!

But out bowler had the same thing happen and he was yelling out and i mean yelling "you useless f****ign idiot. how F***ing useless are you." We in the slips were cracking up! just pissing ourseflves and it happended again next ball he was screaming at the batsman and we were in tears, everybody on the field was pissing themselves laughing! Ironically the batsman nicked it to 1st slip but i diving in front and caught it!! yea,  he gave the batsman a send off!  No action was taken as if you play 1sts you should have a thick skin apparntly!! o
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2008, 06:14:04 AM »

Well something should have been done about the send off. Send offs are an absolute no no and so is absolute personal sledging.

Frankly if that is allowable in your competition then there is a problem.

Congrats on your First Grade debut.
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2008, 07:40:22 AM »

I know we were just laughing and laughing and yet nothing happened and nothing was said, really odd. 

Thanks mate it was really good. Playing all 2nd grade this season and hopefully next season the 1st grade keeper will become a specialist batsman freeing up the spot for me!

Can i have a mugshot of you? Just PM me, as i cannot believe i have not had up umpire one of my game
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Re: Junior Coaches: Wake Up!!!!
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2008, 09:03:33 AM »

Sorry Nozza, given the age of some of the juniors on here and yourself best not to do such things.

Post which team(s) you play for and i will let you know if I get allocated to you folks. Will be good to catch up.
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