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[roco]

Nor does your tone and none response on the the other thread Jon

[procricket]

My reserve looks good if you like PEPS i will give it up for your one mate as you got not what you ordered and mine is similar in profile to what you wanted.

I will swap you mine for yours

I do like mine but i feel bad for people

[Talisman]

Well having just read the Laver website the Reserve is the biggest bat they make and the very best performing willow, no mention is made of the willow looks.

Laver & Wood's New Masterpiece
The Reserve bat is made from our best Players Grade willow. The willow is graded from the best of our willow courtesy of J.S.Wright & Sons based exclusively on performance and balance. This grade of willow falls between our Private Bin and Signature bat ranges. We can also give this bat a secondary drying process that gives it an even larger profile. This is an optional service that is normally only available for professional players and means that the bats sometimes lose a little bit of durability but have even more power and presence with an amazing pickup. A very limited warranty applies here, although selecting this service includes no extra charge.
We can knock this bat in for you and fit it with an adhesive protection tape for the face and edges. The weights range from 2lbs7ozs to 3lbs6ozs. These bats are most popular in the 2lbs 10ozs to 2lbs 12ozs region as they have a huge amount of willow in the blade and plenty of power. They have the lightest pickup imaginable for a bat with such a large amount of willow in the profile.

The Special Reserve sounds very similar but with the added note that the grains won't be straight.

Special Reserve
This bat is made from our highest performing willow clefts. It suits the cricketer who desires performance above all other attributes of a bat and wants to have a huge advantage over his opponents. The willow is judged on performance and is selected from about 80% of the finest willow that we import into New Zealand. For the Special Reserve clefts, we are not looking for straight grains but purely for the clefts that hit the ball the furthest. If power is what you are looking for then the Special Reserve is likely to be the bat for you.

Now the key for me is the figure of 80% of all the finest willow, statistics are used to baffle and this one does exactly that.... 80% of all willow? what is the split that goes into "finest"? is all willow finest or only 5%

From the way I read it the 2 grades are only separated by the cosmetics and the option of the second drying process.

[jonpinson]

Nor does your tone and none response on the the other thread Jon

If you can decipher 'tone' from typed text, you are doing very well.

[jonpinson]

................From the way I read it the 2 grades are only separated by the cosmetics and the option of the second drying process.

So from that, which is how I interpret it too, one should be able to expect good cosmetics as it seems to be the only advantage over the SR?

[roco]

Well from the wording the tone of the message was I am defending laver ( my favourite brand according to you ) when all I asked was are you a concaving man or not and I never said you had ordered a laver

[Cover_Drive]

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[peplow]

Well having just read the Laver website the Reserve is the biggest bat they make and the very best performing willow, no mention is made of the willow looks.

Laver & Wood's New Masterpiece
The Reserve bat is made from our best Players Grade willow. The willow is graded from the best of our willow courtesy of J.S.Wright & Sons based exclusively on performance and balance. This grade of willow falls between our Private Bin and Signature bat ranges. We can also give this bat a secondary drying process that gives it an even larger profile. This is an optional service that is normally only available for professional players and means that the bats sometimes lose a little bit of durability but have even more power and presence with an amazing pickup. A very limited warranty applies here, although selecting this service includes no extra charge.
We can knock this bat in for you and fit it with an adhesive protection tape for the face and edges. The weights range from 2lbs7ozs to 3lbs6ozs. These bats are most popular in the 2lbs 10ozs to 2lbs 12ozs region as they have a huge amount of willow in the blade and plenty of power. They have the lightest pickup imaginable for a bat with such a large amount of willow in the profile.

The Special Reserve sounds very similar but with the added note that the grains won't be straight.

Special Reserve
This bat is made from our highest performing willow clefts. It suits the cricketer who desires performance above all other attributes of a bat and wants to have a huge advantage over his opponents. The willow is judged on performance and is selected from about 80% of the finest willow that we import into New Zealand. For the Special Reserve clefts, we are not looking for straight grains but purely for the clefts that hit the ball the furthest. If power is what you are looking for then the Special Reserve is likely to be the bat for you.

Now the key for me is the figure of 80% of all the finest willow, statistics are used to baffle and this one does exactly that.... 80% of all willow? what is the split that goes into "finest"? is all willow finest or only 5%

From the way I read it the 2 grades are only separated by the cosmetics and the option of the second drying process.

No but all emails laver send you when they mention reserve they say its the best performing and good looking willow they have..and they always mention together...think there is an example on here.. i could possibly dig one out too!

[peplow]

My reserve looks good if you like PEPS i will give it up for your one mate as you got not what you ordered and mine is similar in profile to what you wanted.

I will swap you mine for yours

I do like mine but i feel bad for people

Dave dont be silly yours is staying with you mate!

[Cover_Drive]

No but all emails laver send you when they mention reserve they say its the best performing and good looking willow they have..and they always mention together...think there is an example on here.. i could possibly dig one out too!

I agree! REserve is best performing and good looking....not best looking though because thats Signature!

Dave - You're a top top guy! Bloody good guy Dave is

[peplow]

and if its not good looking then surely that goes to a special reserve, if the special reserve didnt exist for much much less it would probably have a larger margin of acceptability. Anyway its not only the looks that are going wrong!

[100 not out]

Lets be honest here. . . there are members on this forum. . .who could describe themselves as bat geeks. . .we are spoilt  . . .constantly being shown very nice looking bats. Take Redbacks, Talismans or Saf's, they all look the part too. . . .when was the last time u saw an ugly'ish one of these. when ordering the reserve, i turned down quite a few clefts, based on looks. you start to get a feel for grade 1 or top grade bat, when you;ve seen so many on a daily basis. i am of the opinion that reserve must be perfomance based rather than looks. the clefts that i was shown didnt meet my standards im afraid.

[Cover_Drive]

Lets be honest here. . . there are members on this forum. . .who could describe themselves as bat geeks. . .we are spoilt  . . .constantly being shown very nice looking bats. Take Redbacks, Talismans or Saf's, they all look the part too. . . .when was the last time u saw an ugly'ish one of these. when ordering the reserve, i turned down quite a few clefts, based on looks. you start to get a feel for grade 1 or top grade bat, when you;ve seen so many on a daily basis. i am of the opinion that reserve must be perfomance based rather than looks. the clefts that i was shown didnt meet my standards im afraid.

The main difference is the price bro, for Reserve you paid 360 + customs while you can get within 230 Pounds mark and they'd be as good looking and performing too!

As Mike has raised question of low density it does really matter.

[roco]

What else has gone wrong sam!!!!!

[peplow]

Agreed on price part, and they have shown for 230 pounds its possibly to churn out good looking high performing bats!