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The Daily Telegraph have reported that Kevin Pietersen, the England captain, has called emergency talks with the ECB over the role of coach Peter Moores.

It is the believed the two are finding it increasingly difficult to work together after a poor series of results, beginning with the Stanford Super Series in Antigua followed by a 5-0 one-day defeat in India and the loss of the Test series, although England's performance in that was far more credible.

The paper said that Pietersen has asked to speak with Giles Clarke, the ECB chairman, when he returns from holiday.

When Pietersen took over the captaincy from Michael Vaughan in August he had a long discussion with Moores and at the time it was understood that he had reservations about working alongside him.

England have failed to develop under Moores, who took over from Duncan Fletcher following the 2007 World Cup. They have slipped down the Test rankings and although there have been notable one-day successes against India, Sri Lanka and South Africa the limited-overs team remains inconsistent and the next World Cup is just two years away.

Under Moores the only Test series England have won have been against West Indies and New Zealand. During the eight years Fletcher was in charge they lost just one home series - against Australia in 2001 - but since 2007 have been beaten by both India and South Africa.

However, of most pressing concern for the ECB if the relationship has reached breaking point would be forthcoming tour of West Indies and the Ashes. England depart for the Caribbean on January 21 for four Tests, a Twenty20 international and five ODIs. That is followed by a return series against West Indies in May before the Twenty20 World Cup and then the Ashes in July and August.

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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 06:10:51 PM »

interesting to see if any or how much of this is true...
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2008, 06:19:40 PM »

I have always said why didnt we try and get Tom Moody as our coach. We have messed around with coaches and we replace them time and time again!  >:(
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008, 06:48:37 PM »

this could be a disaster for the English team. Maybe a psychological edge the Aussies were looking/praying for before the Ashes
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 07:01:01 PM »

I remain unconvinced by Moores - as nice as he seems to come across - I think we seem to have gone backwards under him and lack that 'edge', which certainly wouldn't suit us well going into the ashes.

Some confused selections, some players seemingly undroppable and some real vague soundbites after poor defeats.

I say get some Aussie / Saffer grit into the coaching team and harden up a bit - those who might not like it (Harmy, Monty or Belly) can shape up or ship out. You won't beat these Aussies by being decent guys who perform well sporadically or when playing near their families.
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2008, 08:58:35 PM »

Anyone got any ideas as to who may replace Moores, if he is to go! (which i hope) :-X
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 09:06:44 PM »

Aussie or South African coach.

Someone like Ian Botham could get some mental toughness in the team and convey the message that the ECB means business.

I have never seen Moores as a strategist or a good planner.

You need a coach who can come up with solutions (especially after a poor series), think a step ahead of the opposition and works dispassionately when it comes to selection and grooming.
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 09:12:52 PM »

Alot of people mentioned tom moody last time round but he didnt seem to get a look in! I think ashley giles will at some point end up coach, currently warwickshire coach and england selector theres only one place this can lead... king of spain as head coach!
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 11:47:55 PM »

I'd bring in an over large feline boss man type person, with a cake win bonus and no litter tray loss penalty. Watch us race up the tables and his bat collection grow...
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2009, 01:15:35 AM »

Get Rod Marsh. Your academy coach over there. if you want grit and edge he would be the best man for it.
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2009, 02:02:24 AM »

Next coach of England should be Steve Rixon.
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2009, 06:11:46 AM »

Alot of people mentioned tom moody last time round but he didnt seem to get a look in! I think ashley giles will at some point end up coach, currently warwickshire coach and england selector theres only one place this can lead... king of spain as head coach!

because he was already heading back o australia to become a state coach
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2009, 08:43:20 AM »

Moores needs more time
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2009, 10:36:42 AM »

i went on cricinfo again today in the article above they have added more reports

Kevin Pietersen, the England captain, has sought emergency talks with the ECB over the role of coach Peter Moores, according to reports in the English media. Pietersen, who is currently on holiday, has asked to speak with Giles Clarke, the ECB chairman, when he returns.

Newspaper reports suggest captain and coach are finding it increasingly difficult to work together after a poor series of results, beginning with the Stanford Super Series in Antigua followed by a 5-0 one-day defeat in India and the loss of the Test series, although England's performance in that was far more credible.

When Pietersen took over the captaincy from Michael Vaughan in August he had a long discussion with Moores and at the time it was understood that he had reservations about working alongside him.

The Daily Mail reported that the immediate cause of the problem was the decision by the selectors on Monday to not include Vaughan in the touring party to the Caribbean. It said Pietersen had asked for Vaughan's inclusion and had left on his holiday believing he would have his way but Moores won over the selectors at the meeting.

According to the Guardian, however, the ECB played down the reports that Pietersen had called for talks with Clarke. The paper quoted sources in the ECB saying, "there is a review after every tour and this one [India] is no different". It also points out that differences between Pietersen and Moores would be an immediate headache for Hugh Morris, managing director of England cricket, and not for Clarke.

England have failed to develop under Moores, who took over from Duncan Fletcher following the 2007 World Cup. They have slipped down the Test rankings and although there have been notable one-day successes against India, Sri Lanka and South Africa the limited-overs team remains inconsistent and the next World Cup is just two years away.

Under Moores the only Test series England have won have been against West Indies and New Zealand. During the eight years Fletcher was in charge they lost just one home series - against Australia in 2001 - but since 2007 have been beaten by both India and South Africa.

However, of most pressing concern for the ECB if the relationship has reached breaking point would be forthcoming tour of West Indies and the Ashes. England depart for the Caribbean on January 21 for four Tests, a Twenty20 international and five ODIs. That is followed by a return series against West Indies in May before the Twenty20 World Cup and then the Ashes in July and August.
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Re: kp calls emergency meeting about moores
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2009, 10:41:01 AM »

i have often wondered when you have had greats like botham, boycott, gower why havent we utilised them.
Shane warne - just retired has been snapped up by CA. Allan Donald now works for CSA, Javed Miandad for the PCB. Who the (no swearing please) is peter moores??? U gotta be tough to win and this guy comes across as being to much of a nice guy. i know im being controversial here. but sometimes u gotta bite the bullet.
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