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[Kulli]

All the clubs I've played at before have had pitches that offered a bit to spinners and bdecent sized outfields, over here they have astro's that offer very little turn and boundries of around 60 yards tops. For example on sunday we scored 259 in 30 overs and nearly failed to defend it!!!

Just wondering if any fellow spinners have any advice, I'm planning to practice all the obvious stuff, varying line length and pace regulalrly, bowling from different angles and round the wicket, basically mixing it up as much as possible, but wondered if anyone had any words of wisdom, all gladly accepted.

[100 not out]

in my opinion. . . . the variations need to be subtle variations. . . .dont try to do too much. .. . .

[Perkins17]

my mate took a 5fer as an off spinner on a small ground with no spin by floating it about thr baysman eye line and they got out stumped or bowled as everyone trys to smash it

[uknsaunders]

you need to look towards how aussie offies bowl. Generally with flight and pace variations. Aim to drift the ball, looking for the outside edge, rather than the big spinner back through the gate. Might also be worth mixing up your line of attack by coming around the wicket - but get use to doing one thing at a time.

[Kulli]

My main problem is I'm 6'2, so throwing it above the eyeline is a pretty difficult thing to do.

[Buzz]

My main problem is I'm 6'2, so throwing it above the eyeline is a pretty difficult thing to do.

but on that basis you should get extra bounce and potentially extra dip which is much harder to play than spin alone. As a batsman, I agree with what uknsaunders says - look to attack the outside edge and try to get the batsman playing through the offside off the front foot with your line and length - the worst situation for you is bowling a middle stump line as the batsman will give you the step and fetch it treatment.

[uknsaunders]

but on that basis you should get extra bounce and potentially extra dip which is much harder to play than spin alone. As a batsman, I agree with what uknsaunders says - look to attack the outside edge and try to get the batsman playing through the offside off the front foot with your line and length - the worst situation for you is bowling a middle stump line as the batsman will give you the step and fetch it treatment.

I think every bowler is unique buzz. I struggle to get flight and I'm only 5'7, I bowl to quick and flat. Whereas I play with a lad whose 6'0-6'2 and he gets loads of flight because he bowls at a slower pace. It needs a bit of re-training and as others have said, slowing your pace down on some occasions. Practise bowling "moon" balls to start with and slowly bowl them quicker/flatter until you approach a flighted, but quick enough delivery. You should find some turn if you "land" the ball instead of "skimming" it off the surface.

[uknsaunders]

just to further explain - bowlers actions/point of release has a lot to do with natural flight.

[Kulli]

but on that basis you should get extra bounce and potentially extra dip which is much harder to play than spin alone. As a batsman, I agree with what uknsaunders says - look to attack the outside edge and try to get the batsman playing through the offside off the front foot with your line and length - the worst situation for you is bowling a middle stump line as the batsman will give you the step and fetch it treatment.

I think if finished up with 6-0-52-2, which while not great reading wasn't too bad in a game where 519 runs were scored in just 60 overs and for the loss of only 15 wickets. My main problem was even when I managed to beat the batsmen in the air, it was still possibly to muscle the ball over the ropes at times. Most of the teams are prodominately made up of pakistani's who aim to spash pretty much every ball for six somewhere between square leg and long off. I tried to bowl outside off but thought that going more than a balls width or so outside off stump might just give them even more room to free the arms and club it over leg.

Cheers for all the replies by the way, even if i ignore all of it ( ) it's always good to bounce ideas around and hear other viewpoints.

just to further explain - bowlers actions/point of release has a lot to do with natural flight.

I know what you mean, but the extra height means bowling it extra slowly to get the hight without over pitching.

[uknsaunders]

Pakistani sloggers, why didn't you say so. 2 foot outside off should do it, even they will struggle to cow it.
Don't worry about getting hit through the offside, they rarely use their top hands!

Don't be afraid to set strange fields ie. 4 on the legside boundary and maybe deep cover,long off with a gully, point, extra saving one.

[uknsaunders]

in fact bowling around the wicket is an even better idea - get everything moving away from them!

[Kulli]

Pakistani sloggers, why didn't you say so. 2 foot outside off should do it, even they will struggle to cow it.
Don't worry about getting hit through the offside, they rarely use their top hands!

Don't be afraid to set strange fields ie. 4 on the legside boundary and maybe deep cover,long off with a gully, point, extra saving one.

I'm  too polite.

I spend most of sunday with a field of

fine leg, deep midwicket, long on, long off, deep point, backward point and a man on the single splitting the gaps on the off and leg but that was the sort of field I'd set to  a slogger normally as I had no idea what to expect before sunday.