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[Tom]

and why did no other makers make their own versions of it in the meantime?

It is a patented design. I believe Slazenger had to pay royalties on one particular bat they introduced, due to similarities.

[jonpinson]

It is a patented design. I believe Slazenger had to pay royalties on one particular bat they introduced, due to similarities.

Ok then clever boy, variants thereof...

[procricket]

And this is my same problem with df so called retro as well

they say there retro but the stickers are not the same so unlike the only true retro i have seen which is the stuart surridge the rest are all gimmicks to try and aplease our natures

[jonpinson]

I'd wager it will be made in India and be similarly priced to the Legend too.

I can see it selling though, despite all logic.

[Johnny]

The new one looks hideous, frankly. The scoop area is far larger on the new model and looks wrong. It is not a retro bat, it is the next stage in the obsession with having enormous edges. Batmakers are now so bothered by creating bats with big edges that they are even willing to do away with a middle.

It isn't a scoop, it is a thinly veiled scaffold plank.

I'd like to hear the GN logic in creating a bat with a very low spine height despite making models for years where the big thing was to creat a bat with a massive profile from 10 yards away.

If the scoop design was indeed as highly performing as was claimed 20 years ago/is being claimed again now, why was it dropped for 15 or so years, and why did no other makers make their own versions of it in the meantime?

The entire Scoop concept was around making a bat which was more forgiving if not hit in the middle. This just takes it too the extreme, with even bigger edges than before!

And the performance can't be that bad, otherwise I'm sure Matt Walker wouldn't use one.

A certain B C Lara used one to good effect around 15 years ago, and the decade before that it was used successfully too. My 20 year old version still goes like stink out of the middle, so I see no reason why a modern version of this wouldn't be successful.

....even as an admitted Scoop enthusiast, I do agree that it looks slightly strange!!! The scoop looks so wide and deep!

[jonpinson]

The entire Scoop concept was around making a bat which was more forgiving if not hit in the middle. This just takes it too the extreme, with even bigger edges than before!

And the performance can't be that bad, otherwise I'm sure Matt Walker wouldn't use one.

A certain B C Lara used one to good effect around 15 years ago, and the decade before that it was used successfully too. My 20 year old version still goes like stink out of the middle, so I see no reason why a modern version of this wouldn't be successful.

....even as an admitted Scoop enthusiast, I do agree that it looks slightly strange!!! The scoop looks so wide and deep!

I just can't see the point of making a big thing of making a retro bat and then when it comes to the crunch, making a bat based not on a retro model, but almost exclusively by modern rules (must have massive edges etc). If they had made a scoop like the original, I might be interest, but to me this isn't a scoop.

[Johnny]

I like the idea of a dated concept with a modern twist.

I can see the appeal of a re-make from a collectors point of view, so I could understand why Dave isn't keen on the Fearnley Retro.

[Tom]

I like it. But am expecting it'll come with a very hefty price tag which will put me off buying one.

[Kulli]

I just can't see the point of making a big thing of making a retro bat and then when it comes to the crunch, making a bat based not on a retro model, but almost exclusively by modern rules (must have massive edges etc). If they had made a scoop like the original, I might be interest, but to me this isn't a scoop.

Presumably they're trying to get a new generation interested in the Scoop as well as hoping to tempt previous scoop users into buying. Can't see kids being very interested in something in the profile of an original scoop, given current trends.

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[Johnny]

Presumably their trying to get a new generation interested in the Scoop as well as hoping to tempt previous scoop users into buying. Can't see kids being very interested in something in the profile of an original scoop, given current trends.

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[uknsaunders]

don't know what the problem is, it's just another way to save weight. Sloped shoulders, harrow length blades, rounded edges, carbon handles etc etc

Scoops went out of fashion because people wanted big heavy bats in the 80/90s, then they wanted them lighter. Now they want them light and big, so why not scoop?

If you bat like me then 90% of the shots won't go anywhere near the middle.

[Watsontotty]

I like it. But am expecting it'll come with a very hefty price tag which will put me off buying one.

Not many bats around now Tom which don't come with a hefty price tag especialy the leading brands but had GN brought back the old style scoop i certinly wouldnt be interested in one as i want a new updated version.

[Beachcricket]

If the price is competitive then I may be tempted if it's Legend price then they can jog on. I'd rather get one of the custom makers on here to make something similar.

[tim2000s]

It is a patented design. I believe Slazenger had to pay royalties on one particular bat they introduced, due to similarities.

I do believe that was the V800 which had some scooping similar to the GN500. Oh, just realised I am a sad retro scoop fan :s

[bigboy]

Jonpinson, if it was an exact replica of a 30 year old bat no one would buy it, people have become used to much bigger profile and expect big bats. They will sell if they are made well, it's still a great concept.