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[Mpt7]

ok, so i ordered a bat from millichamp and it arrived yesterday. fully gripped and with a anti scuff sheet on it. however i have weighed the bat, it felt a bit heavy (admittedly on my house hold scales) and it comes in at 2'12 - whilst i ordered at 2'10.

my question is, when you request a bat at a specified weight is that the weight it should be when it arrives at your door or is it the weight it is naked (no grip/face)

any advice would help as i am a little confused.......

[Cover_Drive]

Which model is it?

[bigboy]

It's a big problem I believe with your millichamps, lavers etc, they almost always arrive heavier than ordered.

[Number4]

From what I have noticed every custom batmaker on this forum has had bats come in slightly heavier at some point. Some quote undressed weight to make the weight look lighter. I don't think it is a big problem with any batmaker in particular I think it is what comes out as the finished product if that makes sense... 2lb 10oz would probably have been the undressed weight. I know a few people got on the band wagon previously when Laver turned out a couple of bats an ounce or 2 over weight but then seen others produce bats over specified weight and all was fine.

In my honest opinion an ounce or 2 either way is fine by me. I use 3lb ish bats but I would be quite happy to use 3lb 2oz or 2lb 14oz

[bigboy]

2 ounces in relation to a 3lb bat means very little, but if you use lighter weights it obviously matters more. I know your a fan number 4 but in my opinion he dosen't compare with some of the better bat makers out there, especially in the lighter weights.

[langer17]

I always say a 'finished weight' which I specify to mean fully stickered and griped. I dont usually count the scuff sheet to the weight, but that can add 1 ounce by itself.

[roco]

You have to specify what a finished weight means as some is without grip toe guard scuff etc so can be 2-3 oz heavier once applied I ask for 2lb11/12 fully dressed one grip or 2lb13/14 with two and never had a problem really apart from one which was 2lb15 with one grip

[Number4]

2 ounces in relation to a 3lb bat means very little, but if you use lighter weights it obviously matters more. I know your a fan number 4 but in my opinion he dosen't compare with some of the better bat makers out there, especially in the lighter weights.

Better batmakers in who's opinion bigboy and who would these better batmakers be?

And when you say me being a fan.. A fan of who?.. Laver?. If you call buying 1 bat from Laver being a fan then I guess I am a fan of GN and GM oh and once 25 years ago I bought a County so I guess I am a fan of them too.

Didn't think this had anything to do with Laver actually I thought it was about Mpt7's Millichamp being 2 oz's heavier than requested to which I made a comment on my observations from bats I have seen on this forum

[langer17]

2 ounces in relation to a 3lb bat means very little, but if you use lighter weights it obviously matters more. I know your a fan number 4 but in my opinion he dosen't compare with some of the better bat makers out there, especially in the lighter weights.

How does he not compare?

[petehosk]

Keep on the subject of this particular issue with M&H please guys!
Keep away from diverting off to other makes!! Don't want this being an argument over something not directly related!

[Nickauger]

I guess they can only sticker it up as a naked bat, as people have specific preferences to type of grip, scuff guard, toe guard etc. All of which way different amounts. Therefore you could order a 2:12 that came as 2:12 fully dressed, you may change the grip to something heavier and this will then change the weight of the bat.

[langer17]

I know Gray Nicolls over here in Australia do the naked weight of the bat, that is no Stickers or Grip, which is totaly misleading as you could buy a bat that says it weighs 2lb8oz, then it turns out to weigh 2lb10oz, because the weight stated is the naked weight of the bat. It's completely stupid because no one bats without a grip and most prefer to have stickers on a new bat. It also doesnt say anywhere that the weight stated is natural weight. Very silly way to do it if you ask me.

[bigboy]

Thats different to what I witnessed at the factory Langer. They were weighed after being stickered and the weight written on them.

[Canners]

i asked for a 2.9 harlequin and it turned up, i didnt weight it and went out and played with it and thought this feels abit heavy so i weighed it and it was 2.13, i had added a scuff sheet and edging tape so couldnt really say what the weight woukld have been..... I am now very specific and always ask for a finished weight......

[jonpinson]

It is a valid point that the quoted weight some makers give is the weight of the bat before it is 'dressed' (stickers, grip, toe guard, anti scuff etc) which can add 2-4 ounces dependant on grip type. I know that H4L produce a bat that when dressed, weighs the desired weight (In my case, I requested 2'8, it weighed 2'5 undressed and bang on 2'8 when stickered).

However another consideration is your scales. Most kitchen scales aren't terribly accurate (fine for measuring ingredients as the error is a constant one, you still end up with the same ratio of ingredients) but for weighing bats they are not ideal. I've seen bats sold on the forum as, for example, 2'8 and when the new owner weighs it, they complain because their scales read 2'10.

The best thing to do is forget what the scales say and decide if the bat is too heavy by swinging it, comparing it to known bats that you know are not too heavy and go from there. If you still think it is too heavy, it will be worth trying to access some scales that you know are accurate before you contact MH.