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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #180 on: August 01, 2011, 03:28:46 PM »

Oh well that's all over today I think

Shame as I wanted to see a sachin ton
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #181 on: August 01, 2011, 03:30:27 PM »

Actually its better that Sachin didnt score the ton in this match after the shameful performance of his colleagues.
The 100th ton can wait.
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #182 on: August 01, 2011, 03:42:40 PM »

I'd leave Bresnan out, he's baatted aand bowled well but India haave been dismal today.

You can't leave a guy out the team who got 90 then took 5 wickets!
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #183 on: August 01, 2011, 08:38:39 PM »

You can't leave a guy out the team who got 90 then took 5 wickets!
You can if you think it improves the team. If you used that logic, Broad would have never played in this series.
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #184 on: August 02, 2011, 07:53:39 AM »

With all the joy of how well we are playing, it should be tempered by this from Scyld Berry, it is part of an article in the Telegraph.

The second problem I was experiencing was the game’s administration. This was billed as a world heavyweight contest, and spectators - and many television viewers - are being charged accordingly. Yet this series has been so one-sided that everybody has been short-changed.

India’s board have failed to prioritise Test cricket since the Indian Premier League was launched; they have failed to prioritise this series in particular.

The Indian players are either overcooked - those who toured the West Indies straight after the World Cup and the IPL - or undercooked. Only Rahul Dravid had the right amount of rest then preparation.

One of Tendulkar’s few public pronouncements, some years ago, was that there should be the minimum of a fortnight between one tour or series and the next. Of course, he is right.

For the Indians to play in the West Indies one week and a Test at Lord’s the next week is an error for which the administrators concerned should be held accountable.

India started off on the wrong foot and have remained there ever since. To keep wicket properly in English conditions, Mahendra Singh Dhoni needed one or two first-class matches, not a brief break in Taunton.

Scarcely an over in this series has passed in which he has caught the ball cleanly. A team without a wicketkeeper doing his job are bound to become ragged in the field and demoralised.

India for the last decade have had great batsmen and fine spinners. What made them into No 1 was their opening pair of Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma.

England would not have wriggled off the hook of 124 for eight if Zaheer had been fit. But, again, his preparation was so poor that he had one innings of bowling before the series after a long lay-off.

Instead, India’s bowling has been carried by Ishant and Praveen Kumar. They are playing their fifth Test in six weeks - India’s first Test against West Indies began on June 20. If they have any legs left to stand on, they will play seven Tests in eight weeks. This is utterly inexcusable administration.

India’s batsmen were exposed by the short balls, especially of Tim Bresnan. The Indians did not face a tall fast bowler in the West Indies - Darren Sammy does not count as fast - or against Somerset, so they needed special preparation.

To be worth paying to watch, international cricket has to be played with flat-out intensity by players who have had a rest within living memory and who are about to peak when the series begins.

This should not be beyond the capacity of the game’s administrators. Yet it is.
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #185 on: August 02, 2011, 08:06:32 AM »

With all the joy of how well we are playing, it should be tempered by this from Scyld Berry, it is part of an article in the Telegraph.

The second problem I was experiencing was the game’s administration. This was billed as a world heavyweight contest, and spectators - and many television viewers - are being charged accordingly. Yet this series has been so one-sided that everybody has been short-changed.

India’s board have failed to prioritise Test cricket since the Indian Premier League was launched; they have failed to prioritise this series in particular.

The Indian players are either overcooked - those who toured the West Indies straight after the World Cup and the IPL - or undercooked. Only Rahul Dravid had the right amount of rest then preparation.

One of Tendulkar’s few public pronouncements, some years ago, was that there should be the minimum of a fortnight between one tour or series and the next. Of course, he is right.

For the Indians to play in the West Indies one week and a Test at Lord’s the next week is an error for which the administrators concerned should be held accountable.

India started off on the wrong foot and have remained there ever since. To keep wicket properly in English conditions, Mahendra Singh Dhoni needed one or two first-class matches, not a brief break in Taunton.

Scarcely an over in this series has passed in which he has caught the ball cleanly. A team without a wicketkeeper doing his job are bound to become ragged in the field and demoralised.

India for the last decade have had great batsmen and fine spinners. What made them into No 1 was their opening pair of Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma.

England would not have wriggled off the hook of 124 for eight if Zaheer had been fit. But, again, his preparation was so poor that he had one innings of bowling before the series after a long lay-off.

Instead, India’s bowling has been carried by Ishant and Praveen Kumar. They are playing their fifth Test in six weeks - India’s first Test against West Indies began on June 20. If they have any legs left to stand on, they will play seven Tests in eight weeks. This is utterly inexcusable administration.

India’s batsmen were exposed by the short balls, especially of Tim Bresnan. The Indians did not face a tall fast bowler in the West Indies - Darren Sammy does not count as fast - or against Somerset, so they needed special preparation.

To be worth paying to watch, international cricket has to be played with flat-out intensity by players who have had a rest within living memory and who are about to peak when the series begins.

This should not be beyond the capacity of the game’s administrators. Yet it is.

There are too many valid points in the article. The BCCI are undoubtedly greedy and financially motivated, perhaps the hammering by a superb English team will teach them something.India could not have played worse and the non preparation is obvious. Maybe the 10 day break might bring a rejuvenated Indian team alive again.
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #186 on: August 02, 2011, 08:39:17 AM »

It again boils down to politics and money. The BCCI only think about lining their pockets rather than the benefit of team affairs. The way things stand we are going to be beaten 4-0
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #187 on: August 02, 2011, 09:33:05 AM »

I have to say that this tour of England by the Indians reminds me very much of England going into the Ashes series in Australia in 2006-2007. Almost exactly, the same mistakes have been made and the same result has occurred.

Is there a common denominator in all of this?
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #188 on: August 02, 2011, 09:39:22 AM »

humm Ashley Giles?

slightly harsh to point the finger at Duncan fletcher, but there has to be some flak going his way.
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #189 on: August 02, 2011, 09:47:38 AM »

humm Ashley Giles?
Are you Harbajan in disguise....
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #190 on: August 02, 2011, 12:10:23 PM »

for me being no.1 in the world isn't just about being able to rock up and play well, it's about all the hard work that goes on in the background too, as well as developing strength in depth. This is why England deserve to be ranked above India in the test rankings.
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #191 on: August 02, 2011, 12:56:30 PM »

No doubt whatsoever who has the most strength in depth.
England should dominate world cricket for the next 5 years going by the talent available.
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #192 on: August 02, 2011, 03:31:44 PM »

I don't think any of these sides is much better than South Africa to be honest.
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #193 on: August 05, 2011, 11:01:35 AM »

Sehwag has gone early in the practice match at North Hants.....lovely :) To a 2nd XI triallist by all accounts!

Anyone there today?
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Re: England vs India Test Matches
« Reply #194 on: August 05, 2011, 11:04:14 AM »

burton who got schewag is our ones captain's best mate

he got a txt last night saying he was in the 12 for the game today

happy days
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