Topic: Bats My Theory (Read 8905 times)

Tom · « **Reply #30 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:17:08 PM »

Quote from: procricket on September 05, 2011, 09:00:06 PM

Tom in your eyes as a former big wig and i know you have done reaserch and what not is there a big difference in bats

There's (No Swearing Please) bats in all price brackets. Some bats just don't turn out very good. You can spend �300 on a the best reviewed bat from a reputable retailer, and it can be a plank.

Every company wants to make the best performing bat they can, whilst retaining a unique marketing aspect to sell as many as possible. There isn't a huge difference between a top GM, GN, Mongoose or anything in my view. The finish on one may be better, the stickers may be better on another but beyond that there's not much.

As for pro bats - I never really saw one bat on the circuit which made me go wow. This is a special piece of willow.

My advice is always the same, go to a shop, choose a bat which you like the pickup and feel of. Knock a ball on a few. Some of you may also have a batmaker who you trust, therefore negating the need to visit a shop. I'm in that boat, I trust TK and Sareen to make my bats.

procricket · « **Reply #31 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:17:57 PM »

So my question is why do the smaller maker do with all there grade 2 or 3 bats then.

And if that is the case why do we not see some big stained bats as grade 1

Tom · « **Reply #32 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:18:50 PM »

Quote from: procricket on September 05, 2011, 09:17:57 PM

So my question is why do the smaller maker do with all there grade 2 or 3 bats then.

And if that is the case why do we not see some big stained bats as grade 1

Lots of the smaller makers don't buy direct through the merchants.

FYI, G1/2/3 are all classed as 'Top Grade' by Wrights. There's 19 grades below G3.

procricket · « **Reply #33 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:20:22 PM »

I understand that hence a certain forum members prominance (and no this is not a bashing thread)

procricket · « **Reply #34 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:22:04 PM »

For next season i going to only buy English handmade bats to finish my education in bats.

For me i have seen 3 bats this season stand out

A Hell4Leather and 2 Lower grase Gray Nichs.

I used the Instince that was not three bad the Indian brigade was a mixed bag some outstainding some just average.

Only used two planks this year both from Pakistan and the other Mg2 off a kiwi over here and that was Indian made in my eyes

The lavers i have used been a mixed bag to be honest some good some not so...

My old laver is still up there so is the MB Malik

jonpinson · « **Reply #35 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:24:29 PM »

Quote from: WazzaAfridi on September 05, 2011, 09:15:50 PM

But there are some batmakers out there who grade bats purely on performance rather than cosmetics and hence price accordingly.

Yes, correct. This has been discussed to death on here before now so no need to go over old ground. However from experience, the following can be used as a rough guide.

1. Pretty doesn't guarantee good performance.
2. Ugly doesn't guarantee bad performance.
3. Price doesn't correlate to performance, however the more you spend, the less likely you are to get a dud as more time will be taken in both manufacture and QC. That said, there is nothing to stop a �50 bat outperforming a much more expensive one.
4. Grading cannot be taken to mean anything, as every batmaker grades differently.
5. Asian made bats can be every bit as good as English made ones, but refer to point 3.

PM7 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:25:08 PM »

There must be some quality bats that look stunning with perfect grains and some poor sod has paid top dollar for it but if it is under or over pressed then its optimum performance would be wasted... but how many people would ADMIT to feeling what the hell did I pay top dollar and there is no difference in the performance?

procricket · « **Reply #37 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:26:22 PM »

Bloody hell Jon

I am starting to warm to you

PM7 i have a bat here going back that falls into that statement

jonpinson · « **Reply #38 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:28:19 PM »

Quote from: PM7 on September 05, 2011, 09:25:08 PM

There must be some quality bats that look stunning with perfect grains and some poor sod has paid top dollar for it but if it is under or over pressed then its optimum performance would be wasted... but how many people would ADMIT to feeling what the hell did I pay top dollar and there is no difference in the performance?

Exactly, which is why you see blanket statements about 'cheap bat x was (No Swearing Please)' 'my new �300 is brill' etc etc.

Paying more to have a bat custom made is a nice experience but it really is a luxury option when 99/100 of us would feel no difference using something mass produced, as long as the bat suited us.

gdb19 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:35:31 PM »

I posted a link on my thread about my new redback from a willow merchant saying that the willow grades don't necessarily indicate performance.

My redback paradox is only the premium version but seems great so far. I also have a 15 year old slazenger v12 super that was cheap at the time but has a brilliant middle (I still use it as my net bat). Having said all that when I was younger a club pro got me a slaz v100 that was superb but not that much better than any of my other bats.

Personally I'd never pay hundreds for a bat simply as you can get a bad one. From reading all the comments on here I'll definitely stick to smaller brands like redback, h4l, etc as they do seem to consistently deliver good quality bats.

PM7 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:36:55 PM »

Im pretty sure if someone actually sifted through the millions of posts you would struggle to find someone who paid �300 plus for a top GN or GM and admitted with a straight face that they have been (No Swearing Please).

jonpinson · « **Reply #41 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:41:45 PM »

Quote from: PM7 on September 05, 2011, 09:36:55 PM

Im pretty sure if someone actually sifted through the millions of posts you would struggle to find someone who paid �300 plus for a top GN or GM and admitted with a straight face that they have been (No Swearing Please).

But you would find a hell of a lot of posts singing the praises of the latest top dollar bat, only to see them come up for sale pretty quickly...

procricket · « **Reply #42 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:43:04 PM »

got to say im the exception i do not sell my best bats bar the odd one that is too heavy...

I have had some great bats and some not so great i currently using a broke bat that is 4 years old now but still going well

tim2000s · « **Reply #43 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:43:57 PM »

Equally, many of us will not pay more than �200 for a bat because it doesn't make enough difference in our hands, and the bats that I currently have I will be keeping...

procricket · « **Reply #44 on:** September 05, 2011, 09:44:35 PM »

coverage over quality of middle people

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