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[OMF]

At risk of sounding like a muppet....bats with Scoops... how can they work?!!

(Plus what other scoops can you think of off the top of your head? Im thinking Scoop, Dynadrive, Megadive, V800...)

[uknsaunders]

you'll need the boffins to explain it all. GM Luna is another one.

I think it's the natural extreme of concaving ie. distributing the wood to the outside of the bat in order to have big edges. Typically these profiles allow you to hit the ball outside the sweet spot and still time it. Most have a small or concaved spine as a way of balancing the bat, otherwise it would be too heavy. The price you pay is the middle isn't so much better than edge areas, compared to a small edged bat with a big spine and no concaving. Having no spine or scooping allows for even bigger edges and a wider middle, downside I guess is less extra welly from the middle (though you will be putting more force through the ball as opposed to hitting half a ball with the edge).

I'm sure somebody will correct me in a minute with a proper scientific explanation :-)

[tim2000s]

There's been loads of discussion around this in many threads, and I would always defer to Norbs, but here's my attempt...

Scoops are essentially trying to reduce the weight whilst retaining rebound, and as Nick says, are the beginning (or extreme endpoint depending on your point of view) of concaving.

The classic GN scoop removes weight from the centre of the bat, while allowing extra thick edges, but crucially, the removed would should be removed from the soft, un-pressed willow in the back of the wood to retain the rebound of the front of the bat. If this scoop is too deep, you will suffer from a bat with absolutely no middle. In theory, by applying the weighting of the bat around the edges and pressing it properly, you shouldn't lose power.

By way of the other example, if you were to attatch 2lb10oz of Willow about two bricks long and fully cuboid shaped, properly pressed, onto the end of a longish stick, and call it a mongoose, it would probably work quite well, and wouldn't necessarily need a traditional spine!

[cooter]

totally agree with all of what tim2000s said in his post. hit the nail on the head

[OMF]

thanks, makes sense.





they still look ridiculous tho.

[Mortimer]

they still look ridiculous tho.

They look cool!

GN had the original scoop, scoop 2000, pro balance (4 scoop) twin scoop, megapower, dynadrive, millennium, sabre, viper, scimitar and possibly more!

The GN scoops are made by removing wood; I think the slazenger ones are created by pressing, as they were making sure they did not infringe GN's patents / registered designs

[Colesy]

Xiphos

[thebigginge]

Nicely put Tim

Did you not like the Xipos?

[tim2000s]

I think that the Xiphos was just missed from the list of bats with forms of scoop!!!