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Field Changes between overs
« on: September 19, 2011, 12:05:03 PM »

We have a time limitation of 80 minutes to finish off the twenty overs as a fielding side else there is a 5 runs penalty for every 5 minutes of delay.
Can someone provide some tips on how to make quick field settings between the overs. We play the game on both sides of the pitch, that means the field has to be changed at the end of each over.

At international level, field seems to get set so fast between overs as if every one knows exactly where to stand. Haven't really seen a captain setting a complete field after each over. My need is to change the field without major shuffle ( players running across long distances to get to their new positions).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 12:16:30 PM »

80 minutes shouldn't be too difficult tobowl 20 overs in, just avoid any unnessacary pissing around.
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 12:20:19 PM »

Ensure everyone knows where they are suposed to stand - and ensure you don't have a situation where you have a guy running from one boundary edge to another. The biggest time wasters are bowlers taking ages to get back to their mark and fielders getting the ball back to the bowler - this is where you can make up the most time

It comes with practice and experince, but realistically 20 overs - assuming there isn't a massive amount of ball chasing should be charged through in under 70 mins... which leaves you 10 mins to have some extra tea!
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 12:22:07 PM »

Unless you're using really creative captaincy, your field will usually be sorta like this?

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             3rd                                      FL
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                                       WK
             P                        III                                       DSL
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DC
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             EC                                          MW
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                   L Off                           L On


Hope that turns out ok!

Anyway, my point is, it's an easy one to change round. 3rd man and Fine leg become Long off and long on. Deep square leg becomes the deep cover fielder. Extra Cover moves to Midwicket and the only player crossing is the one at Point, who is probably your best fielder anyway.

Does that make sense?

Of course, if you're changing the field dramatically it becomes more complicated, but having long on and long off interchanging with 3rd man and fine leg is probably the easiest way to start off.
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 12:26:35 PM »

Nice work Rich - the only headache you have is if you have to have 4 in the ring - in which case you need one of 3rd or fine leg up, depending on the bowler. I would have DSL at Cow instead...
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 12:30:40 PM »

Unless you're using really creative captaincy, your field will usually be sorta like this?

Code: [Select]
             3rd                                      FL
.
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                                       WK
             P                        III                                       DSL
.
DC
.
             EC                                          MW
                                       III
                                      B
.
.               
                   L Off                           L On


Hope that turns out ok!

Anyway, my point is, it's an easy one to change round. 3rd man and Fine leg become Long off and long on. Deep square leg becomes the deep cover fielder. Extra Cover moves to Midwicket and the only player crossing is the one at Point, who is probably your best fielder anyway.

Does that make sense?

Of course, if you're changing the field dramatically it becomes more complicated, but having long on and long off interchanging with 3rd man and fine leg is probably the easiest way to start off.

Thanks Rich, it is indeed useful to start with.
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 12:34:59 PM »

Yep if you have fielding restrictions (we don't in our 18 over midweek bash) then I'd bring the fine leg into the ring. And as Buzz says you can pivot the midwicket and square leg fielders to have one in and one on the boundary. You could also do away with point and just have a wide 3rd man saving boundaries if you need to find an extra fielder from somewhere. Depends on your bowlers of course.

In our 18 over comp we have to play all the asian teams on an artificial track where they just smack it about everywhere. When they come to us and play on a proper wicket, it's a lower scoring game but we always win. If we have to stifle a team, we use off spin bowlers bowling a tight middle/leg stump line round the wicket and pack the leg side boundary. As long as the bowlers are disciplined and don't bowl leg side wides, it can be very difficult for the batsmen to score runs. We leave the off side boundary relatively unpatrolled to try and tempt the expansive shot, which usually results in wickets :) It's a bit anti-cricket, but the whole midweek competition is such a farce with umpiring decisions not being given, we just have to find our own way of winning.
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 12:44:43 PM »

Yes we have a 6 overs power play with only two fielders outside the 30 yards allowed. So far we have been playing in quite a small ground where we used only straightish thirdman ( and no fineleg) to cover the back side. But now the semifinals are in a new ground which happens to be quite big and that will probably make us rethink over our strategy.

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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 03:14:10 PM »

We have a time limitation of 80 minutes to finish off the twenty overs as a fielding side else there is a 5 runs penalty for every 5 minutes of delay.
Can someone provide some tips on how to make quick field settings between the overs. We play the game on both sides of the pitch, that means the field has to be changed at the end of each over.

At international level, field seems to get set so fast between overs as if every one knows exactly where to stand. Haven't really seen a captain setting a complete field after each over. My need is to change the field without major shuffle ( players running across long distances to get to their new positions).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Think this depends on how many fielders you're trying to "hide" - I know from similar recently that as soon as you are trying to keep a couple of guys away from the ball, it becomes an absolute nightmare!  As a rule though, trying to reduce movement is the key - so long off to fine leg, long on to 3rd man etc are good calls/  Ring fielders can just have the same position both end - point to point is no coastal path!
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 10:36:46 PM »

Try and get your players in the habit of looking at you in between overs and between balls as well.

By doing that, you can often move players quicker and more discreetly with less fuss.

Sweepers need to be proactive and count the balls to make sure they are on the move early, if they are in the ring when the bowling is from the other end etc.

Sweepers that dawdle are more of a nuisance than bowlers with long run ups if you ask me!


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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2011, 07:38:14 AM »

Try and get your players in the habit of looking at you in between overs and between balls as well.

By doing that, you can often move players quicker and more discreetly with less fuss.

Sweepers need to be proactive and count the balls to make sure they are on the move early, if they are in the ring when the bowling is from the other end etc.

Sweepers that dawdle are more of a nuisance than bowlers with long run ups if you ask me!


Of course, the biggest annoyance are the guys who insist on doing long on both ends and then dawdle to get there!
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Re: Field Changes between overs
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2011, 07:50:57 AM »

i would never insist on doing long on at both ends but get landed with it as im considered 1 of the better catchers....u just have to get ur jog on and make sure ur in position quickly.

Does get annoying when ur waiting as a batsmen and the oppo are constantly moving the field whilst ur ready and waiting!!
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