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[Hads45]

Ill weigh it exactly when i get the chance but in the 2.10s

[Edward Lowy]

Edward

Thanks for giving us your time and feedback on this thread...

I'm sure the players bats will all sell....

this forum is above all a place for discussing bats and this is all I was doing

I still aren't sure if you've answered whether the quality of clefts I.e lightness and looks are of a higher quality in the players bats than the le clefts?

Quite right Canners, if you can't ask a question or make a point on a public Forum, where can you?

As we say on our website, Player Editions are made from LE timber.

Being a private business we do have the luxury of trying things in the marketplace. Player Editions are a good example of this - we did not sit down and set sales targets and other projections for these items, we want to see if there is a market demand for such things. We are in the best possible position to produce Players bats because of the whole DXM process and are delighted if they meet the needs of some cricketers. We do not set out to be all things to all men (er people!), we set out to be GM.

Kind regards

Edward

[peplow]

Edward, thanks for answering all the q's.
I had most queried the weight thing for buying online specifically, where it is impossible to get a feel for the bat through the screen! and therefore you may be left with something far too heavy or unsuitable for your needs, granted the better the player the more scope they'd have to play with any weight of bat, but i am only a little lad so if a 2lb 13 bat turns up i'd be a little screwed, unless it picked up like a 2lb 9!
But the bottom line as you say is that if you are buying one i am sure you wont be disappointed, as thats the reason they've bought one! and it doesnt matter if others contest the idea as they wont be buying one!

[Edward Lowy]

Edward, thanks for answering all the q's.
I had most queried the weight thing for buying online specifically, where it is impossible to get a feel for the bat through the screen! and therefore you may be left with something far too heavy or unsuitable for your needs, granted the better the player the more scope they'd have to play with any weight of bat, but i am only a little lad so if a 2lb 13 bat turns up i'd be a little screwed, unless it picked up like a 2lb 9!
But the bottom line as you say is that if you are buying one i am sure you wont be disappointed, as thats the reason they've bought one! and it doesnt matter if others contest the idea as they wont be buying one!

No problem Sam, hope all good with you

Kind regards

Edward

[David Bacon B3]

This may be a little bit off topic, but as it's hot I might find out what I've been thinking.

The DXM+ is basically the same shape as the normal bat, but just bigger/heavier?

How does this work in the CAD process? For instance, is the same cut of the bat made in different clefts and depending on how dense they are they will be DMX+ or not? Or are they 2 set designs? Allowing the + to be the bigger of the two? Or do you purposely pick heavier clefts for this process etc?

I'm not sure if i've explained my question that well(?)

I have only just picked up on this post - and am reading with great interest...

Mattw - in answers to your question;

The GM+ bats are bigger (greater volume) and for that reason will also be heavier for a given density of wood. The Icon GM+ for example will have the same profile as the Icon but will be 3 to 5 mm bigger and therefore are separate designs. As Edward has stated in this thread the DXM process allows this replication of profile.

I hope this answers your question,

Kind regards,

David

[mattw]

I have only just picked up on this post - and am reading with great interest...

Mattw - in anwers to your question;

The GM+ bats are bigger (greater volume) and for that reason will also be heavier for a given density of wood. The Icon GM+ for example will have the same profile as the Icon but will be 3 to 5 mm bigger and therefore are separate designs. As Edward has stated in this thread the DXM process allows this replication of profile.

I hope this answers your question,

Kind regards,

David

Thanks for your response, it clears it up slightly - however how do you choose which bats will be used for the DXM+ process? and when going through the process, do you set the design to for instance, make the edges a certain size? or is the DXM+ always the same size? So what I'm getting at is, are all DXM+'s the same size in cm/mm(s) and then depending on the wood density etc they will be different weights? Or do you set the DXM+ to produce a bat at a certain size, making them different weights because they are bigger/smaller in size?

[Joe]

Thanks for your response, it clears it up slightly - however how do you choose which bats will be used for the DXM+ process? and when going through the process, do you set the design to for instance, make the edges a certain size? or is the DXM+ always the same size? So what I'm getting at is, are all DXM+'s the same size in cm/mm(s) and then depending on the wood density etc they will be different weights? Or do you set the DXM+ to produce a bat at a certain size, making them different weights because they are bigger/smaller in size?

Do you really need to know all that? Are you looking to produce some GM + bats of your own  

[mattw]

Do you really need to know all that? Are you looking to produce some GM + bats of your own

I'm just interested...?

[Joe]

Fair do's

[Buzz]

Do you really need to know all that? Are you looking to produce some GM + bats of your own  

alternatively he is trying to find out if he goes through enough DXM+ bats he will find a low density cleft... i.e. are the bats all made to a certain size or a certain wieght. I suspect it is size and there is the possibility you could get lucky.

[Edward Lowy]

alternatively he is trying to find out if he goes through enough DXM+ bats he will find a low density cleft... i.e. are the bats all made to a certain size or a certain wieght. I suspect it is size and there is the possibility you could get lucky.

The bats are made to a size.

Plus bats are designed from the ground up as separate entities to regular bats.

Kind regards

Edward

[Kulli]

The bats are made to a size.

Plus bats are designed from the ground up as separate entities to regular bats.

Kind regards

Edward

Apologies for continuing the grilling, and I'm sure everyone appreciates you guys taking the time to answer, but I'm not sure if I've grasped this right, all the say, Icon DXM+ bats are cut from the same CAD programme, meaning any variation in the weights is purely down to the density of the willow used for that particular cleft?

[Colesy]

Have to say I used a Icon 808+ which weighed 2.14 and felt like a 2.11 when playing with it. I know this is a common phrase on the forum but it felt so well made, and well balanced that even Sam wouldn't have struggled!

[tim2000s]

Apologies for continuing the grilling, and I'm sure everyone appreciates you guys taking the time to answer, but I'm not sure if I've grasped this right, all the say, Icon DXM+ bats are cut from the same CAD programme, meaning any variation in the weights is purely down to the density of the willow used for that particular cleft?

That was the way that I understood it. All bats are made to a size, or volume if you like, rather than a weight, so it's the willow that drives the weight and all Flares, say will be made to the same size?

[Nickauger]

That was the way that I understood it. All bats are made to a size, or volume if you like, rather than a weight, so it's the willow that drives the weight and all Flares, say will be made to the same size?

But the pluses are made from a DXM programme which is bigger than the normal profile.