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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2011, 11:22:44 PM »

can I place a bet that at least 3 Indian bowlers will return home injured by the 3rd test  :D

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Australia will only lose if "Radar" Johnson returns.

There is so much great material for this test series lol
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2011, 11:28:35 PM »

Did you not watch the England series. India can collapse on any flat wicket. Managed it 4 times lol

They collapsed on 'proper' test match pitches against an attack that is a mile ahead of the current Australian one. These tracks will be, in comparison, much more like the roads they play on in India. Anyway, anyone betting against the likes of Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag and Laxman is a brave man! They are a far better batting line up than anything Australia can pick.

I do agree about the Johnson comment though! He is Australia's Steve Harmison, only not as predictable, and the sooner they ditch him for good the better for Australia.

I don't think India will win the series but I don't think Australia will either............   :)
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2011, 11:30:13 PM »

They collapsed on 'proper' test match pitches against an attack that is a mile ahead of the current Australian one. These tracks will be, in comparison, much more like the roads they play on in India. Anyway, anyone betting against the likes of Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag and Laxman is a brave man! They are a far better batting line up than anything Australia can pick.

I don't think India will win the series but I don't think Australia will either............   :)

I tend to agree whole-heartedly with all of what you have just said mate lol :D
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2011, 07:53:03 AM »

I can't really see any of the games being a draw, as Australia haven't even got the temperament to bat for more than a day against New Zealand's bowling attack. And while India's batting line-up appeared to get found out against England, they still got a big score against West Indies on a flat track. Although, to be honest, that track was so flat West Indies made 500+.


I predict 3-1 to India as in one game Australia will bowl India out cheaply twice, but fail to do so again.
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2011, 08:01:59 AM »

Fancy Australia to come good as their bowling looks as though its quite potent, Just if baggies can get enough runs.

I really like Ponting as a cricketer so hope he fills his boots this series.
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2011, 01:21:51 AM »

Indias bowling attack might appear pissweak to others, but it always kills Australia. Sharma will bowl like Tremlett did last summer, and Zaheer will swing it well. Any above average spinner (and Ojha is pretty good) pegs australia down.

You could count the amount of times Australia have scored 400+ on the one hand in the last 3 years. Noone scores hundreds and noone gets big hundreds more importantly.

As weird as it sounds, I also think India save there best cricket for Australia, and I read nothing into there 4-0 loss in england this year.


You are either uninformed or lazy...or perhaps both.

The Aussie team that was smashed by England last summer had just come back from a two test series against India in India and managed circa 400+ in both first innings of the two tests played.

http://www.crichotline.com/australia-vs-india-1st-test-2010-scorecard-mohali/

http://www.crichotline.com/australia-vs-india-2nd-test-2010-scorecard-bangalore/

http://www.crichotline.com/sri-lanka-vs-australia-1st-test-scorecard-2011/

http://www.crichotline.com/sri-lanka-vs-australia-2nd-test-scorecard-2011/

http://www.crichotline.com/sri-lanka-vs-australia-3rd-test-scorecard-2011/

As far as "hardly anyone scores centuries anymore", I had to laugh. I can think of Michael Clarke (three centuries in the last five tests), Shaun Marsh, David Warner, Mike Hussey and even the departed Phil Hughes have scored tons in the last six tests that Australia has played in. Watson scored an attacking 88 in the last test he played in...against Dale Steyn, Vernon Philander and Morne Morkel....unless you consider the Indian attack to be deadlier than that trio?

Ohja will not present a problem in this series as he will in all likelihood not be playing. Ashwin will get the gig as he can at least bat.

I do not know which way the series will go, but I do know that you haven't got a clue.
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2011, 01:33:32 AM »

I just spoke to Nostradamus; he said that Australia will win the first test match but India will come back to win one back and ultimately with some draw in between the series will be tied.  :D
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2011, 02:11:08 AM »

They collapsed on 'proper' test match pitches against an attack that is a mile ahead of the current Australian one. These tracks will be, in comparison, much more like the roads they play on in India. Anyway, anyone betting against the likes of Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag and Laxman is a brave man! They are a far better batting line up than anything Australia can pick.

I do agree about the Johnson comment though! He is Australia's Steve Harmison, only not as predictable, and the sooner they ditch him for good the better for Australia.

I don't think India will win the series but I don't think Australia will either............   :)

Dunno if you saw the hobart pitch, but it was pretty bloody green and very bowler friendly.
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2011, 11:41:58 AM »

You are either uninformed or lazy...or perhaps both.

The Aussie team that was smashed by England last summer had just come back from a two test series against India in India and managed circa 400+ in both first innings of the two tests played.

http://www.crichotline.com/australia-vs-india-1st-test-2010-scorecard-mohali/

http://www.crichotline.com/australia-vs-india-2nd-test-2010-scorecard-bangalore/

http://www.crichotline.com/sri-lanka-vs-australia-1st-test-scorecard-2011/

http://www.crichotline.com/sri-lanka-vs-australia-2nd-test-scorecard-2011/

http://www.crichotline.com/sri-lanka-vs-australia-3rd-test-scorecard-2011/

As far as "hardly anyone scores centuries anymore", I had to laugh. I can think of Michael Clarke (three centuries in the last five tests), Shaun Marsh, David Warner, Mike Hussey and even the departed Phil Hughes have scored tons in the last six tests that Australia has played in. Watson scored an attacking 88 in the last test he played in...against Dale Steyn, Vernon Philander and Morne Morkel....unless you consider the Indian attack to be deadlier than that trio?

Ohja will not present a problem in this series as he will in all likelihood not be playing. Ashwin will get the gig as he can at least bat.

I do not know which way the series will go, but I do know that you haven't got a clue.


Vic.. your pompos patronising and derogatory tone with which you start every post and with which you continue to downgrade others, is frankly boring. Get over yourself, the Aussies aren't very good, the Indians aren't very good, and heck even the English aren't particularly wonderful... just the best of the bunch at the moment after series on home soil and against a woeful Aussie side in transition. Time will tell how good they are after next years sub continent series (just to prove this isn't an Aussie bashing post). There does seem to be some good talent coming out of Australia at the moment however, which I for one am glad of. I have always said that world cricket needs a strong Australian side, otherwise beating them only gets belittled by people like you saying that 'this Australian team isn't as good as the one of the late 90's, you'll never be as good as us'....... YAWN!
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2011, 12:15:58 PM »

Dunno if you saw the hobart pitch, but it was pretty bloody green and very bowler friendly.

Pity they aren't playing a test against them on it then.....!
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2011, 01:31:27 PM »

Vic.. your pompos patronising and derogatory tone with which you start every post and with which you continue to downgrade others, is frankly boring. Get over yourself, the Aussies aren't very good, the Indians aren't very good, and heck even the English aren't particularly wonderful... just the best of the bunch at the moment after series on home soil and against a woeful Aussie side in transition. Time will tell how good they are after next years sub continent series (just to prove this isn't an Aussie bashing post). There does seem to be some good talent coming out of Australia at the moment however, which I for one am glad of. I have always said that world cricket needs a strong Australian side, otherwise beating them only gets belittled by people like you saying that 'this Australian team isn't as good as the one of the late 90's, you'll never be as good as us'....... YAWN!

As I said mate, I don't know which way the series will go - but some of the idiotic misinformation in this thread could not pass unchallenged.

Just re-read the post in question again, and if you cannot find the lies, distortions and sheer pommy chest beating stupidity within it, then you are just as bad as the miscreant internet hero who typed it behind the safety of his keyboard.

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  Indias bowling attack might appear pissweak to others, but it always kills Australia. Sharma will bowl like Tremlett did last summer, and Zaheer will swing it well. Any above average spinner (and Ojha is pretty good) pegs australia down.

You could count the amount of times Australia have scored 400+ on the one hand in the last 3 years. Noone scores hundreds and noone gets big hundreds more importantly.

As weird as it sounds, I also think India save there best cricket for Australia, and I read nothing into there 4-0 loss in england this year.

Blatantly false statements like "No one scores hundreds and no one scores big hundreds" (I just highlighted seven centuries in the last six tests - which would be about normal for any test side, heck England only scored two centuries in the whole 2009 Ashes series as a comparison) and "You could count the amount of times Australia have scored 400+ on the one hand in the last 3 years." I showed how laughable that comment was by showing that Australia passed 400 in BOTH tests they played against India only a year ago in India.

While we are at it, let us examine some of the other idiotic statements in that classic post...I was actually rather generous before, but let's go to town now.

How about this one: "Indias bowling attack might appear pissweak to others, but it always kills Australia."

Where is there any evidence of that?

For the benefit of the most ignorant Englishmen (of which thankfully, there are not that many on this site), India have *never* won a series in Australia. They have brought sides with Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Ganguly and Gambhir all in the peak along with younger less injury prone versions of Khan and Sharma with a fiesty Harbhajan thrown in and they still could not pull it off. They got rolled last time by a bowling line up of Mitch Johnson, Brett Lee, Stuart Clark and Brad Hogg!!! I am sure you all think that none of that lot can bowl (with the possible exception of Clark).

Let us move along, as the comedy gold continues in that post:

"Sharma will bowl like Tremlett did last summer, and Zaheer will swing it well."

HAHAHA!!!

Neither have taken a single wicket between them in the warm up first class matches so far on tour. Khan coming back from ankle surgery looks short of a gallop - well he is 33 after all? Ishant Sharma has just rolled his ankle, but seriously, what has ever done? A test bowling average of nearly 36 tells you all you need to know - not bloody much.

As for Zaheer, his bowling average is worse than Mitchell Johnson...so how good can he be?? Then again Harmison, Flintoff and up until two months ago - Anderson - all had/have worse bowling averages than Mitch Johnson, so I am sure that the apologists on this site will mount a case as to why Zaheer should be considered for legend status inspite of his cod ordinary career stats.

We aren't finished though, because we had this one too:

"Any above average spinner (and Ojha is pretty good) pegs australia down."

Oh really!?

Name me the last (non Australian) spinner to dominate on Australian soil?

Murali? Nope.
Harbhajan? Nope.
Kumble? Nope.

Who then?

Well the sychophants here will surely tell you that Graeme Swann is teh best spinner in the world BAR NONE. Swanny has played ten tests home and away against the weakest Australian team since the mid 1980s...and what is this geniuses bowling average against this insipid Australian team over those ten tests?

40.13

Ouch.

So let's revisit that statement again...

"Any above average spinner (and Ojha is pretty good) pegs australia down."

Can that considered to based on any fact or logic?

Do I really need to even really answer that question?

Let us finish on this doozy...

"As weird as it sounds, I also think India save there best cricket for Australia, and I read nothing into there 4-0 loss in england this year."

Do they?

I repeat once again for the intellectually challenged here: India have NEVER won a series here in Australia. Ever.

It is not to say that they cannot win this time...theys urely have a wonderful chance, but I trying to find the precedents on which that and other quotes from that epic fail post are based on...and there is no empirical evidence to support even one claim made in that post.

India play their best cricket against Australia IN India. No coincidence, as India play well against EVERYONE on their home turf (as England will no doubt discover next year). Blokes like Allan Border, Mark Taylor and Steve Waugh NEVER tasted a winning a series in India. That is how hard it is.

However to try and wipe away the 4-0 annihilation India suffered in England as merely "I read nothing into there 4-0 loss in england this year." is hilarious.

The only away series wins they have had away from the sub continent have been against Windies, New Zealand and co incidentally, England four years ago. Other than that...nada.

Only Laxman of the Indians can claim to significantly perform better against Australia than their over all performance.

I have finished dismantling Hads post of the century, but your bile should not pass without comment either.

Please find even one skerrick of evidence where I have stated in any post on this site (or anywhere for that matter):

"otherwise beating them only gets belittled by people like you saying that 'this Australian team isn't as good as the one of the late 90's, you'll never be as good as us'"

I have never stated such a thing and never would. In fact, I was howled down recently on this very site when I innocently stated that it will take Australia about five years to get back to a position to challenge for #1 test ranked nation again.

Apparently the zealots of Albion on this site felt that five years was an outragously short period of time in which
Australia could recover from the cricketing doldrums. Many predicted a Windies like terminal decline. Most seemed to be of the opinion that England would be #1 for all eternity too.

...and you reckon I have been pompous!

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2011, 01:38:43 PM »

Boom!!!! Thank you for completely backing up my post! There is nothing wrong with arguing your point with politeness. And the last paragraph, you seem to be completely agreeing with me but just with what you deem to be more eloquence. But I'm not going to argue with you and bring the topic into disrepute.
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2011, 02:03:28 PM »

Boring hell! There needs to be a tl;dr at the bottom of that, that reads
tl;dr I'm an Australian fan that uses cricinfo too much!
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2011, 02:07:44 PM »

Boring hell! There needs to be a tl;dr at the bottom of that, that reads
tl;dr I'm an Australian fan that uses cricinfo too much!

In fairness, if we didn't you guys would say you hadn't heard of them before, when we have some talent there :D.

I'm sure there are alot of you guys who don't know much about the Australian FC players simply because you can't see them, just like I don't really keep tabs on the UK FC players as I don't see them play. Except Surrey as they have a good youtube channel, lol :D
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Re: India vs Australia Series
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2011, 02:10:16 PM »

Boring hell! There needs to be a tl;dr at the bottom of that, that reads
tl;dr I'm an Australian fan that uses cricinfo too much!

Like like like like like, although Langer makes a good point also.
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