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[uknsaunders]

the difference in tennis is that it is just for line calls and it is after the ball has actually landed - in cricket there is the element of guess work on the future path of the ball.

it's missile tracking Buzz, doesn't get any better.

[mad_abt_cricket]

Whilst I agree that the process to make these decisions is rather slow, this would make absolutely no difference to the speed at which decisions can be made, all you're doing is making the distance a batsman has to run about 2 inches shorter. There would still be very tight calls regarding whether the batsmen had touched the line or was just short. Slowed-down and microscopic cameras would still be needed. It will still be a line decision and therefore will still need a 3rd umpire

I would say it would be much easier to spot if the batsman has touched the line or not as compared to figure out if the batsman has crossed the line. The width of the line is so less that it makes really difficult even after so many slow motion replays. Even more complicated is to judge the foot while deciding on a no ball or a stumping.

[Simmy]

im with nick if its good enough for the airforce to track missiles im sure its good enough for a cricket ball.

i dont think they would but peoples lives at risk unless they where 99% confidant of the software

[Buzz]

but the missile tracking is for after the event has happened - not as a guess what might happen

I am not knocking it - I really like it and think it is a great addition to the sport - its use is where my issues are and the challenging the authority of the umpire which I really don't like

[uknsaunders]

What I will try and do is to see if I can get hold of Paul (Hawkins) and get him to do some Q&A on the forum. I'll ask my father for his details, if he still has them. I played with Paul for  a long time, through colts and seniors. Hopefully he can help me out.

[mad_abt_cricket]

it's missile tracking Buzz, doesn't get any better.

I think it is not the technology but the system which needs to be reviewed. The guys who handle the technical aspects of this technology are not under ICC and the decisions are made based on that information.
One example is how to make sure if the  replay of the no ball which umpire wants to refer to the third umpire has been provided correctly and not from a previous footage. It did happened in the short history of DRS:

http://www.supersport.com/cricket/blogs/mike-haysman/Dhoni_noball_outrage

There is so much money involved in each ball being bowled (betting) that it is highly possible that at some stage it will be manipulated.

Even though it is missile tracking it is still the future path and with the time at hand during review can be altered from that actual path manually.

one such video doing rounds in youtube :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS_naNHkJj0&feature=related

Can't say much about the decision but surely even with DRS there will be plenty of controversial decisions in future.

My take -- Use DRS only to avoid blunders from the umpires and third umpire can very well over turn such decisions (  ex: a clear nick, a clear inside edge to the bat within a time frame.

[uknsaunders]

not got hold of Paul yet, I think the mobile number I have is an old one. However, here's a very interesting piece on Hawkeye by Paul himself:-

http://www.hawkeyeinnovations.co.uk/UserFiles/File/Hawk-Eye%20accuracy%20and%20believability2.pdf?PHPSESSID=256c926433da35aa10ea46e84138f89e

It also shows explains why the cheaper alternatives aren't as good as hawkeye ie. hawkeye can use up to 8 cameras and something like virtual eye tries to get away with 4, sometimes 2

[Batoff]

Pah, this has all come about cheating aussies not walking when they muddled it to the keeper, or the formally biased  biased home umpiring.

the quality of umpires if now much better, but I am not sure about all these  lbws.

and that guy from hawkeye is hardly going to say, yes well all the competition firms are actually as good as my system...

[awp]

Pah, this has all come about cheating aussies not walking when they muddled it to the keeper, or the formally biased  biased home umpiring.

the quality of umpires if now much better, but I am not sure about all these  lbws.

and that guy from hawkeye is hardly going to say, yes well all the competition firms are actually as good as my system...

are you on drugs?

the reason that DRS is needed is because of sub-continental teams being a mob of cheats.  there's nothing cheating about not walking, that's what the umpire is there for.  I don't recall the last time i actually saw anyone walk.  Oh yes I do, it was an aussie.....

Batoff is a good name for you because clearly you spend a lot of time doing it

[Buzz]

urm, some of the 70-80's Aussie umpires were just as bad. this isn't a subcontinental thing.

[langer17]

urm, some of the 70-80's Aussie umpires were just as bad. this isn't a subcontinental thing.

Long time a go though, so I wouldn't call it an Australian thing.

[uknsaunders]

point I was trying to make was in relation to the "cheaper" alternatives like Virtual Eye who try and get away with less cameras. There was an incident in the recent test match where only 2 cameras were working (out of 4). Anybody remember last years ashes where a cheaper system was used some tracking decisions looked odd? Hawkeye costs more but you don't get the issues that cause people to question decisions.

[awp]

urm, some of the 70-80's Aussie umpires were just as bad. this isn't a subcontinental thing.

Umpires in the 70's & 80's have had a huge influence on DRS.... Jeez you post a
Lot of cods

[Buzz]

you need to learn some cricket history, the poor umpires meant the intetnational game turned independent umpires then in early 2000's we saw the introduction or two independent umpires. this was at a time when the technology was being developed.
this led with the influx of the tv money to the development of the run out replays, sniko the hawk eye and eventually drs system.

think before you shoot your mouth off.

[Simmy]

awp wind ur neck in lad just because some one doesnt agree with you no need for coments like that is there?